Would now be a good time to start deporting illegals?

[RichardE]

What if we gave everyone without an education who wanted to go to the US the opportunity too, but they had to go through sterilization. So one time deal, no passing it on.

 

[Drift3r]

Originally posted by: rudder

Originally posted by: eskimospy
The thinking is that neither of those jobs are going to pay a living wage, it would significantly hike the prices for goods illegal immigrant workers manufacture/work on/whatever which would lead to a productivity decline, terrible for economies, and it would be xenophobic, protectionist hysteria the likes of which countries seem to see every economic downturn. (check out your history to see just how many places responded to "wut? Economic downturn? Kick out the Imm'grunts!")

No maybe some construction workers in my town can get their jobs back. It is hard to compete when 3 illegals will work for what they were making.

This the product of contractors not wanting to pay people a living wage and not wanting to deal with the unions in the construction industry. You hate illegals because you say they take jobs but employers love them because they allow them to make more money and stay in business in some cases. By the way very few big construction jobs ever go to illegals. The majority of illegals doing construction work are those who work as day laborers and are picked up by contractors who are working under the table or home owners trying to skirt paying for permits and inspections.

 

[Drift3r]

Originally posted by: episodic

Originally posted by: Drakkon

Originally posted by: shinerburke
We should be rounding their asses up every day and shipping them back to wherever it is they came from.

Problem with that is they just come back. Every day i drive by a spot in town that is known for illegals. They stand on the side of the street waiting for work. The cops know it and the public knows it. What do they do about it? Not a darn thing because the cops know they will just be back the next day and the next day.

The sad thing is those same guys standing on that corner asking for work will work their asses off for a day shoveling/hammering/doing whatever you ask and thank you at the end for $20 that they will take home to their wife and kids and not spend on alchohol. Whereas the American with a sign on the corner asking for a handout who reeks of booze will scoff at the change you give him. Makes me wonder who I really want in this country.

It is amazing that thousands of years ago - the Chinese built a wall that crossed thousands of miles through mountains and all and defended their border. Yet, we can't patrol our own with high tech equipment - mechanized machinery - satellite surveillance, etc. . .

That wall was a failure and was built piece meal over hundreds of years. The Mongols who ended up conquering China and other tribes people from the North pass through it, around it or simply bribed the guards or were just let in whenever populations in the regions where the wall stretched into became low and the Chinese needed soldiers or peasants to tax.

 

[BoomerD]

Originally posted by: Drift3r

Originally posted by: rudder

Originally posted by: eskimospy
The thinking is that neither of those jobs are going to pay a living wage, it would significantly hike the prices for goods illegal immigrant workers manufacture/work on/whatever which would lead to a productivity decline, terrible for economies, and it would be xenophobic, protectionist hysteria the likes of which countries seem to see every economic downturn. (check out your history to see just how many places responded to "wut? Economic downturn? Kick out the Imm'grunts!")

No maybe some construction workers in my town can get their jobs back. It is hard to compete when 3 illegals will work for what they were making.

This the product of contractors not wanting to pay people a living wage and not wanting to deal with the unions in the construction industry. You hate illegals because you say they take jobs but employers love them because they allow them to make more money and stay in business in some cases. By the way very few big construction jobs ever go to illegals. The majority of illegals doing construction work are those who work as day laborers and are picked up by contractors who are working under the table or home owners trying to skirt paying for permits and inspections.

Actually...No.

The underground identification machine is so good, and so available, that illegal immigrants are on construction jobs from small housing projects (when they existed) to some of the largest constrution jobs in the country...including union jobs.

With the newer I-9 regulations, it's gotten easier for employers to verify names against social security numbers, but when they buy entire identities...it becomes much more difficult to catch them.