Originally posted by: FoBoT
lay off the crack Jenova314
you had me until the UK declared war on chile , :laugh:
Originally posted by: her209
We have already been invaded.
Originally posted by: Amplifier
I was playing an invasion level in Rome Total war and I realized, it would be impossible to invade the US.
We can match any tank vs tank/ plane vs plane so it would come down to their soldiers vs us. And now that we all can buy automatic firearms I don't think the invaders would stand a chance against 300 million people exercising their second amendment rights.
*fires gun in air*
What do you think?
Edit: And I mean successfully invaded, not just occupy for a month or two.
Originally posted by: Amplifier
And now that we all can buy automatic firearms I don't think the invaders would stand a chance against 300 million people exercising their second amendment rights.
Originally posted by: Rhin0
Originally posted by: Amplifier
And now that we all can buy automatic firearms I don't think the invaders would stand a chance against 300 million people exercising their second amendment rights.
And now that we can? If you are referring to the "assault weapon ban" you could buy basically the same thing during the ban that you could buy before. No functional difference at all.
Funny how everyone is saying Chine. China is LUCKY if they could invaed and hold Taian.
They are a good 10-15 yrs behind the US in technology. They may have more in shear #'s of troops, but they are also a good 10 years away from having the skill and training our military has.
Shear #'s do not win a war or invasion. Solid training and combat exeprience (no one has more of either-US only rival in this arena is Isreal.
Hell, even in the most likely of invasion scenarios involving any countries of the world, mainly China invading Taiwan, they MAY be able to pull off invading Taiwan if the US, Australia sat out of it (which wouldn't happen).
Want to know who the next Military super power is going to be? Japan.
They can probably rival China right now, and that is only because they have 1 hand tied behind their back. They decide they actually want to take a proactive military stance (and change their military doctrine form Defense, to offense capabilities), they have the technology, resources and military leadership to surpass China in 3-5 years if they REALLY wanted to.
Originally posted by: Amplifier
I was playing an invasion level in Rome Total war and I realized, it would be impossible to invade the US.
We can match any tank vs tank/ plane vs plane so it would come down to their soldiers vs us. And now that we all can buy automatic firearms I don't think the invaders would stand a chance against 300 million people exercising their second amendment rights.
*fires gun in air*
What do you think?
Edit: And I mean successfully invaded, not just occupy for a month or two.
Originally posted by: Skyclad1uhm1
Yes it could. Imagine Al Qaida getting their hands on biological weaponry, and infecting people in the top 200 cities in the US with Ebola or something similar. (They are already flying people into Mexico to cross the border into the US, so it's just a question of what kind of weaponry will be used next.)
If such a thing will happen many millions will die, and a total panic will break out. 'If your neighbour coughs, do you let him get close to your family? He might be infected you know...' Thus people will most likely stock up on food and stuff and barricade themselves in their houses.
Without a good command structure and order among troops (if 1 soldier in a base gets infected early on a lot more will get infected before they notice, so the troops will panic too) a country is a lot more vulnerable against attacks, and if China or Russia actually would prepare an attack they could do at such a moment. They'd need small groups of elite troops to block/take out the nuclear launch silos or take out the people who operate them, but after that a full scale attack could be launched.
And as to the people who say they couldn't permanently occupy the country as too many citizens have weapons and wouldn't stop fighting: Does the word 'Genocide' mean anything to you? Just toss some napalm/nukes/biochemicals/whatever is available over the remaining citizens, and take over the least poluted parts afterwards.
Originally posted by: mboy
1. And how would the so called invaders protect themselves from the biological weaponry they used?
2. Alqaeda invading and holding the US territory?
3. Their weren't even enough of them to help Keep the Taliban in power in a 3rd world country.
Sneaking people in thru mexico to invade the US and hold the land?
They would have to sneak in Millions to be able to pull that off, WMD or no WMDs.
4. BLock our silos? We have several thousand nukes positioned throught the world (not to mention the ones that can be delivered by sea (or under it) or by air. You could take all of our States based nuke silos offline and we still have plenty to destroy the planet.
You would need more then troops to invade and take over the Us. yOU WOULD NEED Tonns OF TRANSPORTS and a lot of mobile armor. How you gonna get all that inside the US without anyone knowing? Not one country on the planet has the training or experience to even remotely pull anything like this off, maybe not even the US forces itself.
SHLONG, what do you mean by the ROK? Saying they will be the supreme military power, or be able to invade the US (or at least have the capability?
Now, that's funny.
Originally posted by: Cleaner
You don't take over a country by defeating its army. You take it over by delegitimizing its government. Without a central gov. all hell will break loose. No control. Then they just take over the rest of the country at will. First strikes to all of the 50 state capitals and washington would do it. Then mopping up exercises after that.
Originally posted by: Skyclad1uhm1
4. Which is why it is doubtful. But if the command structure would collapse (imagine if they managed to infect Whitehouse personel with Ebola, and it thus reaching the top of the chain of command) there wouldn't be someone able to order the strike, nor to actually keep track of what was happening. The subs and ships would mostly be relatively small groups of soldiers which would suddenly stop being supplies from home.
Originally posted by: JulesMaximus
Originally posted by: Amplifier
Originally posted by: Taggart
Well, there is a difference btwn 'invasion' and 'conquered.' You mean conquered? Invaded, yes, conquered, yes, if nuclear weapons and/or other WMD's were involved.
Conquered would be asking too much for the invaders. I'll give them credit if they can hold California for over a year.
Are you saying you'd like them to hold California?
Edit-Do you realize that California has the 5th or 6th largest economy in the entire world?
Originally posted by: K1052
Yes.
American resistance would soon wipe them out though. With millions of firearms in private hands and lots of semi-skilled and skilled shooters (hunters, police snipers, target shooters) it would be rather messy.
Originally posted by: PrinceofWands
There are sooooo many factors to consider. With our debts and declining world popularity it's entirely possible we'd be bankrupted and left out to dry, falling just like Soviet Russia. We have only 300 million against the other 6 billion in the word, it could work through attrition. It would work very easily if it wasn't a random foreign invasion, but instead foreign support of an existing US rift (allowing a portion of the country to assist in the military action against the existing government).
so yes, there are many ways it would be possible, but no, not like in Total War.
Originally posted by: mboy
SHLONG, what do you mean by the ROK? Saying they will be the supreme military power, or be able to invade the US (or at least have the capability?
Now, that's funny.
Originally posted by: DeeKnow
Originally posted by: K1052
Yes.
American resistance would soon wipe them out though. With millions of firearms in private hands and lots of semi-skilled and skilled shooters (hunters, police snipers, target shooters) it would be rather messy.
that is true... but if I blockaded all oil imports, those millions of firearms would just be sitting in their living rooms, wouldn't they ??