Would going to a 2500k from X6-1100T be a sidegrade?

[poohbear]

Hey all,

My AM2+ mobo is dying on me, it's acting really weird & finicky with my overclocked PhenomII X6-1100T (was running fine for months @ 3.8ghz), and i hafta get a new mobo as i've tried everything with this thing.

I was just gonna get a $140 Asus AM3+ Pro mobo, buy some new DDR3 RAM, and call it a day. But i've been thinking, the benchmarks in Skyrim and RTS games (which i love, infact i mostly play RTS games) shows the 2500k way ahead of the X6 1100t in gaming... so im debating "upgrading" to that. I'm sure in day to day stuff i wont notice a difference, heck im going from 6 cores to 4 with the 2500k, but would it indeed give me a better gaming experience compared to my X6 that'll make it worth the extra $300 to get?

What do u guys think? i game @ 1920 x 1080 resolution (specs in sig), would i really notice a difference or is it more of a sidegrade? The X6-1100T is the best PhenomII available and im sure mine can do 4.1ghz with an AM3+ mobo.... but that SB 2500k looks like the truth!!!!:0

opinions appreciated especially people with experience going from PhenomII to a 2500k! cheers.

 

[fastamdman]

Absolutely, I highly recommend grabbing the 2500k. Just look at the benchmarks of the x6-1100t vs the 2500k and you will decide really quick what you want haha.

I didn't upgrade from a phenom but I do have the 2500k and love it.

 

[nanaki333]

unless you get the x6 for a really really good price, i see no reason to go that route. especially if there's a microcenter near you, you can get a 2500k for $179 and a mobo $30 with their every day special ($80 off most mobos). having said that though, you can get an x6 + mobo for $145 at microcenter with their every day special too.

 

[fastamdman]

Tomorrow you can get the 2500k at micro center for 150 dollars

 

[nanaki333]

Tomorrow you can get the 2500k at micro center for 150 dollars

oooo. even better! i'm probably paying them a visit tomorrow. not looking forward to the lines. they're pretty crowded on normal days and cashiers take forever..... black friday..... yeah....

 

[Arkadrel]

"i've been thinking, the benchmarks in Skyrim and RTS games (which i love, infact i mostly play RTS games) shows the 2500k way ahead of the X6 1100t in gaming"

stock Phenom II x6 1100t = 49 fps
stock 2500k = 67 fps

differnce of about 35% or so.

If you overclock the Phenom II, you should catch up towards the stock 2500k.
However with a not as fast card, the differnce would probably be smaller (than if u have a 580).

If its not a matter of money... get the 2500k + new motherboard for that.

However even with max quality settings, and like a 5870, the gameplay would probably be acceptable for you on a Phenom II x6 1100T (+overclock). Same with Starcraft.

Id be happy with a 1100t, and just get a cheap motherboard for it and be done. Save cash for next upgrade.
Ei. Ivy Bridge when that gets out.

 

[Arkadrel]

Tomorrow you can get the 2500k at micro center for 150 dollars

That is one hellva offer, their like ~230+ or something on newegg.

 

[thilanliyan]

Arkadrel, the difference will be smaller than 35% since he/she plays at a higher resolution.

 

[fastamdman]

If you overclock the 2500k to at least 4.5ghz the gap will be nice. 2500k FTW

 

[Arkadrel]

If you overclock the 2500k to at least 4.5ghz the gap will be nice. 2500k FTW

But is it worth spending more money to get that?

Hes probably already hanging around 70 fps or something at 1920x resolution (assumeing he's running like ~high quality + MSAAx4+8xAF).

I vote save some cash, get cheapest motherboard you can, and just overclock your 1100t. Wait with full cpu+motherboard for ivy bridge.

 

[fastamdman]

Why wait? If we always wait for the next best thing we will have nothing. IB is a ways away, might as well dive in SB now, enjoy the performance and then once IB hits, sell the 2500k and grab a nice new 22nm chip.

Edit : you can sell off your rig and get some decent cash, that will offset the price of the new hardware. Right now is the time to build as they are having GREAT deals.

 

[poohbear]

unless you get the x6 for a really really good price, i see no reason to go that route. especially if there's a microcenter near you, you can get a 2500k for $179 and a mobo $30 with their every day special ($80 off most mobos). having said that though, you can get an x6 + mobo for $145 at microcenter with their every day special too.

erm, i already have an X6 1100t, my mobo is dying so i gotta buy a new mobo, and i was debating just getting a cheap yet decent AM3+ mobo or going all out and getting a 2500k setup. That's the issue dude.

Regarding Ivy bridge, will it take DD3? or will i have to buy new DDR4 for that one? My DDR3 1600 will transfer fine to Ivy Bridge? If so maybe getting a decent & cheap AM3+ mobo, overclocking my x100T to 4.1, and just waiting for Ivy bridge might be a better option. Ivy bridge will be 28nm & 6 cores right?

 

[Rhoxed]

I would just grab another mobo, no point in spending the extra money on something that doesn't net tangible differences across the board IMO. If you were going 2600k and didn't mind dropping the cash, that would be a better upgrade.

 

[ed29a]

Save the extra 300$ and get a nice SSD with it. Then sit out for IB and upgrade then. Your X6 should be enough for the meantime.

 

[jhu]

If your workload isn't heavily threaded and you have the extra money then yes. Otherwise no.

 

[superccs]

Man I had a mobo go out on my when everything else was decent, its a shitty pickle to be in...

I would keep an eye out for a crazy good deal on a cpu/mobo combo and possible sell the 1100 to recoup some loss. I had a similar thing happen to me with my e8400 build and got out from under that by getting my 1055t/890GX and DDR3 from Frys for $80 more than I sold my e8400 and DDR2 ram for.

Getting a new mobo is never satisfying and will result in no upgrade, costing ~$90.

I think its upgrade time.

 

[Arkaign]

Well crap, the 2500k is better, no question about it. That said, I think it's better to get another AM2+ DDR2 mobo while you still can. Get the system up and working well, and then perhaps try to find a buyer for it over the next 6 months or so, and rebuild to something a little more robust at that time.

As was noted, the gaps between the X6 and 2500k narrow a bit when using highest playable in-game settings at common resolutions like 1920x1080.

I went from a PhII955BE OC to 2500k OC, I love it, but am sometimes unsure just how much of the expense was worth it.

 

[FalconHorse]

I'm with the people suggesting getting a new mobo and waiting for IB. You said you wanted some RAM? Good BF deals on 8GB.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...l-_-20-231-314

RAM is cheap these days anyway.

This looks like a good mobo for $85.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16813157280

 

[poohbear]

thanks for all the input guys. Ok i'll save the $300, get a solid AM3+ mobo for $140, overclock to phenomII to 4.1ghz, and sit tight till Ivy bridge arrives next year. I can carry the DDR3 ram over to Ivy Bridge, right?

i would still like to hear from people who've gone from PhenomII to 2500k, was the difference really noticeable? when i went from my 5770 to a 5870 video card i was blown away, i doubt that'll happen going from a X6-1100T @ 4.1ghz to a 2500k @ 4.3ghz?

 

[lau808]

it would def be an upgrade. the problem is, the 1100 is more than enough. and if/when u upgrade, is the 2500k enough or u want ivy? if ur strapped for cash, get the amd board and save for an intel upgrade. if money isnt an issue and u are gonna upgrade anyway, might as well do it now with 25k. u can still sell ur 1100t too.

 

[Kenmitch]

thanks for all the input guys. Ok i'll save the $300, get a solid AM3+ mobo for $140, overclock to phenomII to 4.1ghz, and sit tight till Ivy bridge arrives next year. I can carry the DDR3 ram over to Ivy Bridge, right?

i would still like to hear from people who've gone from PhenomII to 2500k, was the difference really noticeable? when i went from my 5770 to a 5870 video card i was blown away, i doubt that'll happen going from a X6-1100T @ 4.1ghz to a 2500k @ 4.3ghz?

Just make sure the DDR3 is low voltage and you'll be fine. Look for something in the less than 1.50v range

 

[Arkaign]

With a single GPU, I wouldn't worry about paying $140 for a board, that's just crazy.

This is $80, and will be solid as a rock while you wait for the next step.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16813157195

As I said earlier, I went from a PhII X4 955 to 2500k, and although I love the 2500k, it didn't seem to make a world of difference. XFX 6950 2GB was the card. If anything though, it seemed to improve my minimums to the point where I don't notice them at all, whereas sometimes with the X4 the framerate would sometimes dip into lower territory. Loading times and SATA performance is improved as well with the P67 vs. AMD chipset.

Saving $$ for a next-gen GPU and/or IB seems wise. But yeah, don't spend $140 on a mobo for a CPU that you might not even use for all that long with one GPU.

 

[FalconHorse]

With a single GPU, I wouldn't worry about paying $140 for a board, that's just crazy.

Yes. Definitely get the cheapest solid AM3 board you can, poohbear.

Arkaign, is there any benefit for his setup to get the 970 I linked above compared to the 770 you linked? It's only $5 more.

Edit: It's actually $10 more with S&H.

 

[BD231]

"i've been thinking, the benchmarks in Skyrim and RTS games (which i love, infact i mostly play RTS games) shows the 2500k way ahead of the X6 1100t in gaming"

stock Phenom II x6 1100t = 49 fps
stock 2500k = 67 fps

differnce of about 35% or so.

If you overclock the Phenom II, you should catch up towards the stock 2500k.
However with a not as fast card, the differnce would probably be smaller (than if u have a 580).

If its not a matter of money... get the 2500k + new motherboard for that.

However even with max quality settings, and like a 5870, the gameplay would probably be acceptable for you on a Phenom II x6 1100T (+overclock). Same with Starcraft.

Id be happy with a 1100t, and just get a cheap motherboard for it and be done. Save cash for next upgrade.
Ei. Ivy Bridge when that gets out.

Stop spreading lies, there's no real world difference between a 2500k and an X6 at 3.8ghz. At those speeds the x6 easily competes with i7's encoding/transcoding which is about the hardest thing you can subject a CPU to. The fact that you chose a game that's *HORRIBLY* threaded is evidence enough you're promoting false information.

Get a cheap mobo and ride that chip out OP, the 2500k is grossly over popular due to IPC alone. People around here just seem to forget physical cores really do make a difference, and with the bulldozer catastrophy, aka " fake " 8 core shinanigans I don't blame them.

 

[Arkaign]

Yes. Definitely get the cheapest solid AM3 board you can, poohbear.

Arkaign, is there any benefit for his setup to get the 970 I linked above compared to the 770 you linked? It's only $5 more.

Edit: It's actually $10 more with S&H.

There may be some minor benefits indeed, nothing earth-shaking, either would be a great choice imho.