Would going to a 2500k from X6-1100T be a sidegrade?

[ed29a]

Is english your first language?

No, the fifth.

Hurrr Durr Durr oh yea it must be.

Internet meme + sarcasm = lost on you. How unfortunate.

Its much much

It's obvious, English is not your first language. When you criticize someone's spelling/language skills, make sure that your mastery of that language is spotless. If not, you'll look like an idiot. PS: It's not Its. Subtle, but there is a difference. Here is a hint: one is a possessive adjective and the other is a contraption using a verb (it is vs its).

easier to just throw in a used 80$ q6600, than buy a new motherboard and ddr3 memory and start over.
AND I gave hime 2 suggestions and at the end suggested a 2500k AGAIN!

Again, it's your hypocrisy showing. Two separate threads where you suggest people to stick with their dead end platforms (Intel), these have pretty much same performance as OP's. Yet in this thread (AMD), you keep yapping about OP getting a 2500K upgrade. Of course you forget, that if he picks his memory right, he can re-use them for ages to come. So your memory argument falls out of a window. And of course you refuse to understand that stuff in Japan is more expensive, OP has language issues and whatnot. And most importantly, OP is happy with his processor.

Learn how to read not just what you wanna hear.

Oh ... thank you. Coming from you, I'll take it as a compliment.

 

[GaiaHunter]

Let me know what cards you "can" upgrade to next generation without a cpu bottleneck.

I will give you a hint 2 7770's in crossfire, anything more your cpu will bottleneck them.

I would guess 2 7770's will = 2 6870's and 2 6870's are maxing your setup. I know because they max my setup but my cards have 2gb of memory.

Point is , when the op wants to upgrade, his cpu will hold him back much much much sooner than if he spent a few bucks and got a 2500k setup.

I keep hearing stuff like this but newer faster gen single cards always seem to not care so much about the processor as 2 older slower gen cards in CF/SLI with equivalent performance.

For example see how the GTX295 scale so much better than the not much slower 5870 when paired with a core i7 920 as opposed to a phenom II x6.

So instead of CF or SLI maybe a singe 7950/7970 will provide sufficient performance.

 

[happy medium]

I keep hearing stuff like this but newer gen single cards always seem to not care so much about the processor as 2 older gen cards in CF/SLI with equivalent performance.

Now this is true but thats not true with the old i7 920 @ 4.0 or Sandybridge cpu's.

My q9550 4.0 gets its ass handed to it by a i7 920 @ 3.6 when high end sli and crossfire is used.
A Phenom II would just be as bad or worse.

High end sli and crossfire scale much better with i7 920's at 3.6 or Sandybridge than the older q9xx or Phenom II's, Thubians .

I think it has to do with memory/chipset bandwidth.

A q9550 @ 4.0 is too slow for 2 gtx580's and so is a 1100t @ 4.0.

In a few months a single card will max any q95xx or 1100t.
SO something like a gtx670 or 7950 will max these systems.

If he/you spent a few bucks, he could easily have the horsepower for 2 gtx670's or 6950's.

See what I'm saying?

 

[RavenSEAL]

Let me know what cards you "can" upgrade to next generation without a cpu bottleneck.

I will give you a hint 2 7770's in crossfire, anything more your cpu will bottleneck them.

I would guess 2 7770's will = 2 6870's and 2 6870's are maxing your setup. I know because they max my setup but my cards have 2gb of memory.

Point is , when the op wants to upgrade, his cpu will hold him back much much much sooner than if he spent a few bucks and got a 2500k setup.

AMD Piledriver 8-core and 2 HD 7950s, get over it. AM3+ isn't dead, unlike 775, which was dead like 3 platforms ago. So based on that, please tell me what YOU'RE upgrading to?

 

[badb0y]

AMD Piledriver 8-core and 2 HD 7950s, get over it. AM3+ isn't dead, unlike 775, which was dead like 3 platforms ago. So based on that, please tell me what YOU'RE upgrading to?

You put too much faith in AMD, do you seriously think Piledriver performance will even touch Sandy Bridge?

Let's be serious here.

 

[happy medium]

AM3+ isn't dead

dead! yes it is, are you the last one to get the memo?

 

[RavenSEAL]

You put too much faith in AMD, do you seriously think Piledriver performance will even touch Sandy Bridge?

Let's be serious here.

You're already putting down a chip that hasn't even been made?

dead! yes it is, are you the last one to get the memo?

Apparently the memo hasn't gone out yet. However, I heard that LGA775 was officially announced dead by Intel like 2 years ago.

You really aren't going to win this argument until AMD announces a new socket...

 

[Maximilian]

You're already putting down a chip that hasn't even been made?

Its going to suck:

http://images.anandtech.com/doci/4955/zambezi-slide-10_575px.jpg

AMD predicts it will be 15% better than bulldozer, so if thats true then it will slightly beat the phenom II in most things, it will also unzip files like a boss :thumbsup: but still lose to the 3 year old nehalem in everything else, never mind ivy bridge.

 

[GaiaHunter]

Now this is true but thats not true with the old i7 920 @ 4.0 or Sandybridge cpu's.

My q9550 4.0 gets its ass handed to it by a i7 920 @ 3.6 when high end sli and crossfire is used.
A Phenom II would just be as bad or worse.

High end sli and crossfire scale much better with i7 920's at 3.6 or Sandybridge than the older q9xx or Phenom II's, Thubians .

I think it has to do with memory/chipset bandwidth.

A q9550 @ 4.0 is too slow for 2 gtx580's and so is a 1100t @ 4.0.

In a few months a single card will max any q95xx or 1100t.
SO something like a gtx670 or 7950 will max these systems.

If he/you spent a few bucks, he could easily have the horsepower for 2 gtx670's or 6950's.

See what I'm saying?

I hope we get the chance to see reviews/information on this topic, because as usual we get low resolution game reviews for CPU releases and when a new card is released we generally only see them on the fastest CPU.

I'm not so sure it is linear that low resolution gaming predicts future gaming at real world resolutions and CF/SLI predicts the behavior of future single cards when paired with X CPU.

What I don't understand from the OP is why he wants a AM3+ board - I would be done with an AM2+ board or if there is a bug for DDR3 a solid but inexpensive AM3 board, since the DDR3 will probably be used in a future upgrade.

 

[RavenSEAL]

Its going to suck:

http://images.anandtech.com/doci/4955/zambezi-slide-10_575px.jpg

AMD predicts it will be 15% better than bulldozer, so if thats true then it will slightly beat the phenom II in most things, it will also unzip files like a boss :thumbsup: but still lose to the 3 year old nehalem in everything else, never mind ivy bridge.

We'll see...

 

[happy medium]

You really aren't going to win this argument until AMD announces a new socket...

Its called FM2.

 

[happy medium]

What I don't understand from the OP is why he wants a AM3+ board

Because the AMD fanboys are telling him that he will have a upgrade path.

Check posts 129 to 135

 

[RavenSEAL]

Its called FM2.

FM2 is for APUs, not performance chips.

 

[happy medium]

Its going to suck:

http://images.anandtech.com/doci/4955/zambezi-slide-10_575px.jpg

AMD predicts it will be 15% better than bulldozer, so if thats true then it will slightly beat the phenom II in most things, it will also unzip files like a boss :thumbsup: but still lose to the 3 year old nehalem in everything else, never mind ivy bridge.

He said it best , SUCK.

 

[RavenSEAL]

He said it best , SUCK.

And you know this because...?

 

[ed29a]

Its called FM2.

Care to explain this?

 

[Markfw]

Just to be clear, I have given Happy Medium an infraction for the numerous insults in this thread.

 

[happy medium]

Just to be clear, I have given Happy Medium an infraction for the numerous insults in this thread.

nvm, hes not worth it


You know mod-challenges are a no-go. You know personal attacks (post #124) are not acceptable. Time to take a break and cool off.

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[poohbear]

erm, wow this thread is still going on? i really didnt expect it to turn into a fanboy flaming war. happy medium u're a little too zealous about this, just relax.

Yea ,I agree they are a little more expensive 243$ for a 2500k BUT AMD products are even more expensive than that in Japan. 260$ for a 1090t.

It must suck being in Japan with no one to translate for you.
Now the guy has to buy AMD parts that are more expensive than better faster Intel parts.
Suck for him.

happy medium, im sorry but your prices that you quoted in Japan are wrong. This site is the newegg of Japan:

http://kakaku.com/search_results/1090T/?l=l&lid=ksearch%5Fsearchbutton&sort=popular&act=Input

it's 14,000yen ($185) for a 1090T & 16,100yen ($210) for a 2500k. where'd u get that AMD products are more expensive here?

Anyways, u're going on about $75 to upgrade after i sell everything, that's nowhere near my calculations! i tried putting up my setup for sale in a local forum for expats in Tokyo, but no takers. The last time i tried to sell something here it was a setup worth $300 but ended up selling it for $100 cause there was only 1 guy who wanted it and even then he just wanted to experiment with it. I can ofcourse keep all my stuff until i'm back in Toronto this summer & sell it there, but really all that hassle just doesnt seem worth it for me. I will have to pay for the whole SB setup upfront, that's $410 for z68 mobo & 2500k vs $130 for a decent 8+2 phase VRM AM3+ mobo. Since im fully into overclocking i want the mobo to have 8+2 VRM, cheapest z68 mobo with that here is not $130.


yes the 1100T consumes alot more power, but over a course of a year how much electricity is that? $20?

so, its a simple decision for me. All the 8+2 VRM Z68 mobos i've seen have been way beyond what im willing to spend, unless i missed some?