Hell, if that's the case, considering it is NJ and the workload you do, $15 sounds fair. Also, as someone else posted, I would try to get the extra $$ out of the travel. They'll bill out 44.5c per mile and give you 32 or w/e you asked for...they make 13c per mile off of you.
I don't think anyone is disbuting the fact that you are getting shafted, but that's no reason to be unprofessional about it. Doing so over e-mail (i.e. written record) is even worse, you never know when these things will come back to bite you...
dude, it sounds like you suck. Or management is pretty bad.
Judging from the e-mail you wrote, i'm gonna have to go with the first statement. You suck
Judging from the e-mail you wrote, i'm gonna have to go with the first statement. You suck
$15 an hour doesn't sound like much for what you do. I pay $15 to guys that can't do more than push a broom or dig a hole. In my biz just speaking english will get you $16.
There were less direct ways to bring it up. It's a crapshoot now, basically. If you're as valuable as you say you are, they'll give you the raise, but immediately start looking for someone to replace you, maybe even at a lower rate.
Otherwise you'll be told to fsck off, and they'll start looking for someone else anyway.
Otherwise you'll be told to fsck off, and they'll start looking for someone else anyway.
PingSpike
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I'm going to agree with you here. Everyone is saying this was a huge mistake, but you're making $11/hr. Its not like its some irreplaceable job. However, regardless if he gives you the raise continue looking for another job because this is going nowhere.
$13/hr is still cheap for the amount of work you do, you should start looking elsewhere anyway, you are doing yourself a disservice for staying at a place like that.
Find a new job and quit. Obviously you're not happy there and they really don't give a fudge about you since they pay new people more than you.
It can't be that hard to find a job that pays more than $10, can it?
It can't be that hard to find a job that pays more than $10, can it?
Regardless of the raise, start looking for a new job. Your boss does not appreciate your work. And now that you've demanded a raise, he's likely to give you that raise to bide time while he looks for a replacement.
You do not have to give 2-3 months notice. 2 weeks is the norm. Hell, in some situations, no notice is necessary.
You do not have to give 2-3 months notice. 2 weeks is the norm. Hell, in some situations, no notice is necessary.
Worst. Email. Ever.
All your points are correct, but if you wanted to keep that job and simply receive a pay raise, you went about it the wrong way with that unprofessional email. Now they'll either call your bluff and allow you to quit, or give you the money and fire you in a couple of months. Also, you should have asked for more than 13/hr and explained specifically how you more than earn your money just off your basic duties... then detailed the other duties you perform and why you feel the wage you are asking for is fair.
Anyway, it sounds like you really wanted to leave the company.... you'll get your wish.
All your points are correct, but if you wanted to keep that job and simply receive a pay raise, you went about it the wrong way with that unprofessional email. Now they'll either call your bluff and allow you to quit, or give you the money and fire you in a couple of months. Also, you should have asked for more than 13/hr and explained specifically how you more than earn your money just off your basic duties... then detailed the other duties you perform and why you feel the wage you are asking for is fair.
Anyway, it sounds like you really wanted to leave the company.... you'll get your wish.
olds
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When the boss started paying new hires more than you, did you raise the issue then?
This is how I see a manager handling this;
You basically threatened him in the email. If he meets your demands, he may feel that the other employees would see him as weak and/ or that you are more of a peer than an employee. This is not good for the employee/boss relationship.
If he let you go, he would show the other employees that no one is so valuable that he couldn't do it without them. It would also show the other employees that he is the boss and he makes the decisions on who gets paid what.
Hopefully, you haven't backed yourself into a corner.
This is how I see a manager handling this;
You basically threatened him in the email. If he meets your demands, he may feel that the other employees would see him as weak and/ or that you are more of a peer than an employee. This is not good for the employee/boss relationship.
If he let you go, he would show the other employees that no one is so valuable that he couldn't do it without them. It would also show the other employees that he is the boss and he makes the decisions on who gets paid what.
Hopefully, you haven't backed yourself into a corner.
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