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WooHoo! 20Mbps VDSL coming to my town.

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Sorry... I'm in Korea (South! Not North!)

There has been a tight competition between two major ISPs, and the price goes lower, and lower.

Now that there're more than 12 million xDSL subscribers(1/4 of Korea's poplulation which also means that xDSL connections are installed in 99% of every single home), these comapnies are basically crazy to steal the other company's subscriber by improving the speed, and the price, not to mention all those free stuff that comes with it(choice of webcam, bicycle, phone, usb drive...etc)

Well, it's all good that I can 20Mbps connection for the price of four esspresso shots.
 
dude.. in america. where I am... to get that kind of connection would require hundreds.. if not thousands of dollars..

so can you get a div x movie in less then 6 minutes from someone who had that kind of connection too ?
 
Well, I downloaded the whole episode of Twin-Peaks in an hour or so.

I can't really use all that 10Mbps of bandwidth when I'm using the computer, because it slows down the computer a lot.(SCSI hard disk drive, or separate hard disk drive would solve this, though).
Once I get that 20Mbit connection, I'll have to get an extra hard disk drive just for downloading.

However, whenever I'm not really using the computer, I'd just open up Kazaa, and E-donkey and download whatever is needed. Down2Home program shows that I have downloaded 5GB, and uploaded 3GB last month.
Well, the difficult part is maintaining the hard disk drive.

Oh, and xDSL won't work in countries with broad land, and low poplulation-density because of its distance limitation. It worked in Korea because the density of population is high most of area. Therefore, ISPs could install fiber optic, and the router between telephone compay and residential area. This is where power-line network kicks in. Because power line network isn't distance limited. Countries like U.S, and Canada would benefit from this.
 
Why do you americans get everything cheaper than us brits.
You can pay $20 or £10 for a 20mbit VDSL connection, and yet, im paying £30 or $50 for a 512kbit ADSL connection. That just sucks for me.
The only thing that ive ever seen cheaper in the UK is the 9700pro on release. It was about £50 cheaper here.

onelin0, its not just canadian companie that have DL caps. A UK broadband provider has a cap of 1gb per day on 256k,512k,1mb,2mb connections.
 
Originally posted by: Deadtrees
Nope, the bandwidth is unlimited.

Oh, and the both of download / upload speed are 10Mbps(soon to be 20 Mbps) unlike ADSL.

Average ping time is 5.9 ms.
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Im guessing you like in Korea like Adul said?

Thats awesome.

😀
 
UMM...BoomAM


Why do you americans get everything cheaper than us brits.
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I am in Korea...

BTW, I know that everything in U.K is freaking expensive although you guys make decent money for that.
A English friend of mine came to Korea, and she went nuts... She kept saying "This is so cheap" over, and over. She ended up buying whole bunch of eletronic stuff, and clothes. She said that clothes from NorthFace, and Columbia is 2 to 3 times cheaper than it is in England.
 
Dude... you guys could be hosting games like none other over there. I mean, just buy a server or two, get a 20mbit line or two, and a few hundred games hosted or two, get a few millin dollars or two, hehe kinda exaggerated but you guys in Korea probably get to do some serious gaming over there

I bet you g uys in Korea probably haven't used dial up for centuries or something....
 
Dude... you guys could be hosting games like none other over there. I mean, just buy a server or two, get a 20mbit line or two, and a few hundred games hosted or two, get a few millin dollars or two, hehe kinda exaggerated but you guys in Korea probably get to do some serious gaming over there
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Here, there're places called PC room where they have all networked computers loaded with games.
On a newspaper, it says that there're currently 22,000 Pc rooms, and average of 44 computers in each place.
Keep it mind that Korea is a very small country. Its land size is as big as Utah. Those PC rooms are everywhere around the corner(well, not really all around the corner). If I walk around my neighorhood for 10 minutes, I can find 4 pc rooms.
It only costs 90 cents for an hour.






some pictures of PC room



picture of pc room


another picture

a clip
 
Im am a really happy student in norway with a 100mbit (full duplex) internet connection. This student house have around 500 students, and it's an all switched network. There are several gigabit fibre lines out, and I have downloaded a movie from a server over 1000km away at around 10MB/s, and the best I have gotten from our "local" dc hub I have had 11,3MB/s. It's great when a movie can be downloaded in under 2 minutes. But the sad thing is when I'm finished it would be a crappy line instead. 640kbit/2mbit (up/down) are around $100 a month, although a company here are trying to get 12mbit vdsl for around $200 a month. The sad thing is tha vdsl must be shorter than 1,5km away from the thelephone central, and there are not alot of those around.

The cheapest broadband connection here are 128kbit/704kbit (up/down) for $30 a month.

Perhaps I will continuing studying for many more years 🙂
 
low.. the good ole days.... I used to have 10 mbit at a college in southern utah.. and it was pimp. But that dosen't even compare to the connection you can have in korea it sounds like.. aT your HOUSE~!

I'm soo jealous.
 
I don't really know population density, nor the size of Norway.
However, if there's a have high density area, the ISP company might just install a router in that area, and lay out fiber optic connection all the way to the telephone central. That way the distance limitation doesn't apply.
Well, that's what happened here.


 
gah ! with that kinda connection u can finally do usefull things like send your dv videos to people quickly, or streamstuff. dman me and my 1.5mbps connection🙁
 
Originally posted by: Deadtrees
Dude... you guys could be hosting games like none other over there. I mean, just buy a server or two, get a 20mbit line or two, and a few hundred games hosted or two, get a few millin dollars or two, hehe kinda exaggerated but you guys in Korea probably get to do some serious gaming over there
Click to expand...

Here, there're places called PC room where they have all networked computers loaded with games.
On a newspaper, it says that there're currently 22,000 Pc rooms, and average of 44 computers in each place.
Keep it mind that Korea is a very small country. Its land size is as big as Utah. Those PC rooms are everywhere around the corner(well, not really all around the corner). If I walk around my neighorhood for 10 minutes, I can find 4 pc rooms.
It only costs 90 cents for an hour.






some pictures of PC room



picture of pc room


another picture

a clip
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yea wired magazine had a thing on it a while back, i think chicks can pickup guys at certain ones right? love seating hehe😛

and yea, high speed subsidized internet in korea
 
Originally posted by: Deadtrees
I don't really know population density, nor the size of Norway.
However, if there's a have high density area, the ISP company might just install a router in that area, and lay out fiber optic connection all the way to the telephone central. That way the distance limitation doesn't apply.
Well, that's what happened here.
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Well the population density in norway is appaling when thinking about cost effective high speed internet connections.
The whole country are 385 155 km2 large (taken from a encycolopedia), and 4,5 million in population, that gives a population density at 13,9 pr. km2
. The largest city are around 500 000, and the second largest are around 250 000. The 5 largest city got around 60 000. So the isp's can't build centrals that covers almost everybody in the country with vdsl or better. If they did i'll bet the price would be skyrocketing.

In southern korea the population density are a whopping 482,0 pr. km2, almost 35 times higher than norway.
 
0roo0roo...

Yup, girls, and guys do meet over the internet using the web cam, and meet off line. That works pretty good since you'd actually see the person you're chatting with.
 
I have ADSL in Minnesota and I pay $40/mo for 1Meg ADSL service, which often exceeds that speed. It is never down, and my ping times generally never go above 40ms. I average about 10-30ms and have never had a service interruption in the 3 years it has been in service (had cable for 4 years before that) too. They are modifying their network and adding more fiber as well (I can see them doing it along a major road here too), and I hear they're going to start testing a different xDSL standard. My buddy, a network engineer for them, says they're lowering the price as well. 🙂

Its a shame the telcos in north america have lead in their feet! It would be nice if it was like that nationwide. My telco is Frontier, and in Rochester, NY their service is 3Meg. I am sure they are going to push for much higher speeds w/ whatever they are upgrading to.

Edit: I wish I was at a dorm! I am at home for my first two years of college. My brother, a junior at St. John's University (www.csbsju.edu) gets about 10meg up/down from his dorm...limited obviously by the testing server. However, when we downloaded Linux Mandrake from the U of M, it went far beyond 10meg (bandwidth, not transfer rate)...Mmmm 😉
 
ah, i got fiber!!!! so exspensive, but so worth it!
















wait, thats just my wet dream.

i only have 26.4k dial-up, broadband coming SOON.
 
Originally posted by: Deadtrees
Well, I downloaded the whole episode of Twin-Peaks in an hour or so.

I can't really use all that 10Mbps of bandwidth when I'm using the computer, because it slows down the computer a lot.(SCSI hard disk drive, or separate hard disk drive would solve this, though).
Once I get that 20Mbit connection, I'll have to get an extra hard disk drive just for downloading.

However, whenever I'm not really using the computer, I'd just open up Kazaa, and E-donkey and download whatever is needed. Down2Home program shows that I have downloaded 5GB, and uploaded 3GB last month.
Well, the difficult part is maintaining the hard disk drive.

Oh, and xDSL won't work in countries with broad land, and low poplulation-density because of its distance limitation. It worked in Korea because the density of population is high most of area. Therefore, ISPs could install fiber optic, and the router between telephone compay and residential area. This is where power-line network kicks in. Because power line network isn't distance limited. Countries like U.S, and Canada would benefit from this.
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I've got you beat. Heh.

10Mbit up/down and Edonkey told me that i've uploaded 45GB this week. Nuts, eh?



 
Originally posted by: 0roo0roo
Originally posted by: Deadtrees
Dude... you guys could be hosting games like none other over there. I mean, just buy a server or two, get a 20mbit line or two, and a few hundred games hosted or two, get a few millin dollars or two, hehe kinda exaggerated but you guys in Korea probably get to do some serious gaming over there
Click to expand...

Here, there're places called PC room where they have all networked computers loaded with games.
On a newspaper, it says that there're currently 22,000 Pc rooms, and average of 44 computers in each place.
Keep it mind that Korea is a very small country. Its land size is as big as Utah. Those PC rooms are everywhere around the corner(well, not really all around the corner). If I walk around my neighorhood for 10 minutes, I can find 4 pc rooms.
It only costs 90 cents for an hour.


some pictures of PC room



picture of pc room


another picture

a clip
Click to expand...



yea wired magazine had a thing on it a while back, i think chicks can pickup guys at certain ones right? love seating hehe😛

and yea, high speed subsidized internet in korea
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90 cents an hour? 😕

The competition for 'PC rooms', or netbars as we call them over here.. has been so fierce that the competitors are now hawking rates as low as 16 cents an hour, or 1$ overnight. You should see the LAN parties over here! 40 guys come over and all pay for an overnighter and bring tons of coke (the drink, not the drug) and snacks and blow eachothers brains out all night, then skip classes the next morning. The reason it's so cheap..?

Over in my city, PC ownership is only about 15%, but about 80% of the kids use the net. It's the work of the netbars, I tell you.

For 16 cents an hour, who needs a PC? You can escape from the prying eyes of your parents and get access to a superconnection (10mbits up/down in China, too bad they only have like 500k to the U.S...) as well as having access to about 60 people in the same room to play CS with. Heh.

No, seriously though...

Korea's way ahead of the U.S. on the connection bandwaggon. My friend was telling me about that in the other day. If you go to a PC room and the webpage fails to load in five seconds, they'll demand to change because 'The Computers broke'.

 
With my Shaw cable connection I can peak download at about 800KBytes/s ( or about 6400kbps), here in Edmonton Alberta, so I would think things would be similar Victoria, BC. Price is around $35-40CAD.

Most sites don?t go near those download speeds that but some of the gaming sites like PCGameworld provide ~ 300KB/s downloads. At Gamespot I regularly see over 600KB/s on down loads. I started 3 game down loads at once and the total was about 800KB/s. I may be bumping into the limit of my Linksys cable/dsl/router because it?s only rated 10base (10,000bps) and in practice they usually don?t come near that figure.

My uploads have seen as high as 125KB/s (1000kbps) although it usually peaks around ~ 750kbps.
 
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