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Wonder what Chinese military is saying....

tec699

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I can imagine the Chinese military's response when we conducted the shock and awe campaign.

Chinese military's response - :Q

-You have to wonder whether or not they are looking at the war very closely.

Question - Is it true that the Chinese military is 40 years behind the Americans? And is that there Navy, Airforce and Army or is it just certain parts that are 40 years behind the Americans?
 
Originally posted by: tec699
I can imagine the Chinese military's response when we conducted the shock and awe campaign.

Chinese military's response - :Q

-You have to wonder whether or not they are looking at the war very closely.

Question - Is it true that the Chinese military is 40 years behind the Americans? And is that there Navy, Airforce and Army or is it just certain parts that are 40 years behind the Americans?

I wonder what the North Koreans are thinking. 😉

Kim Jong Il - "Holy sheet, maybe I should stop playing dee ping pong with dee Americans."
 
Originally posted by: jjessico
40 years seems too far behind.

Jason


I don't know.. I've read articles on the net where the autor goes on to say that there navy is very lacking. The Chinese are more land based I guess.
 
I guess I wouldnt' be surprised if the navy is lackign somewhat. But airforce and army I would expect to be closer to us.

Jason
 
Originally posted by: X-Man
Originally posted by: tec699
I can imagine the Chinese military's response when we conducted the shock and awe campaign.

Chinese military's response - :Q

-You have to wonder whether or not they are looking at the war very closely.

Question - Is it true that the Chinese military is 40 years behind the Americans? And is that there Navy, Airforce and Army or is it just certain parts that are 40 years behind the Americans?

I wonder what the North Koreans are thinking. 😉

Kim Jong Il - "Holy sheet, maybe I should stop playing dee ping pong with dee Americans."


The only problem with North Korea is the possibility of a Nuclear War. All they need to do is to aim a Nuke at our troops if we went inside there country. In my opinion.. a NK war would be a whole different situation. It wouldn't be an easy affair thats for sure.
 
The first gulf war introduced this co-ordinated air attack to the world. Most nations cut back their standing armies and started developing stand off weapons instead. China is 15 years behind at the most. They are also pushing the space race heavily and have not devoted a lot of money into the Military.
 
Originally posted by: tec699
I can imagine the Chinese military's response when we conducted the shock and awe campaign.

Chinese military's response - :Q

-You have to wonder whether or not they are looking at the war very closely.

Question - Is it true that the Chinese military is 40 years behind the Americans? And is that there Navy, Airforce and Army or is it just certain parts that are 40 years behind the Americans?
Yes, given 6 months to deploy and setup as we have for Iraq, we could easily defeat China's Army in a stand up fight. Unlike Saddam, who is an idiot, China would never give us those six months...

: ) Hopper
 
The main reason were in Iraq is to stop them from ever acquiring nuclear weapons. Imagine if Saddam had Nukes? I seriously doubt we would be as brazen as we are now. And as stated before that's the problem w/ North Korea. If they do have a couple of Nukes whats not to say that they would aim them at SK or at our own troops.
 
Originally posted by: Grey
The first gulf war introduced this co-ordinated air attack to the world. Most nations cut back their standing armies and started developing stand off weapons instead. China is 15 years behind at the most. They are also pushing the space race heavily and have not devoted a lot of money into the Military.


I have a feeling that's going to change. I can definitely see the Chinese devoting more money then ever into their military.
 
Originally posted by: jjessico
I guess I wouldnt' be surprised if the navy is lackign somewhat. But airforce and army I would expect to be closer to us.
China's Army is not really any more advanced than Iraq's is. They use the same T-62 and T-72 tanks that are completely worthless against M1A2 Abrams tanks...

Their Air Force is largely made up of Vietnam era fighters, the Mig-21 and Mig-23 series. They do have a few Mig-29s and Su-27s, but our F-15s can simply shoot them all down before they can do anything.

China does NOT have a blue water navy, they lack the ability to project power on the high seas.

They did buy an aircraft carrier, and turned it into a hotel, docked always at port. It is not able to carry aircraft anymore.

: ) Hopper
 
Originally posted by: Grasshopper27
Originally posted by: tec699
I can imagine the Chinese military's response when we conducted the shock and awe campaign.

Chinese military's response - :Q

-You have to wonder whether or not they are looking at the war very closely.

Question - Is it true that the Chinese military is 40 years behind the Americans? And is that there Navy, Airforce and Army or is it just certain parts that are 40 years behind the Americans?
Yes, given 6 months to deploy and setup as we have for Iraq, we could easily defeat China's Army in a stand up fight. Unlike Saddam, who is an idiot, China would never give us those six months...

: ) Hopper

You got that right, all China has to do is buy Cheney and Rumsfield...

 
Originally posted by: Grasshopper27
Originally posted by: jjessico
I guess I wouldnt' be surprised if the navy is lackign somewhat. But airforce and army I would expect to be closer to us.
China's Army is not really any more advanced than Iraq's is. They use the same T-62 and T-72 tanks that are completely worthless against M1A2 Abrams tanks...

Their Air Force is largely made up of Vietnam era fighters, the Mig-21 and Mig-23 series. They do have a few Mig-29s and Su-27s, but our F-15s can simply shoot them all down before they can do anything.

China does NOT have a blue water navy, they lack the ability to project power on the high seas.

They did buy an aircraft carrier, and turned it into a hotel, docked always at port. It is not able to carry aircraft anymore.

: ) Hopper
I've read somewhere that they are a lot more advanced than that. They have the money to buy a lot of the latest technology.
 
Originally posted by: Red Dawn
I've read somewhere that they are a lot more advanced than that. They have the money to buy a lot of the latest technology.
They have samples of the latest technology, but the vast majority of their military is from the Vietnam era. Extremely useful for ensuring control of their population, protecting their borders from those around them, etc.

Useless against a full scale military assualt by the United States. Of course, China has several hundred nuclear weapons, so that may not matter.

Nothing China has bought is the equal of ours, and they have far fewer of what they do have that is even remotely up to date. For every Su-27 or Mig-29 they have, they have 10 Mig-21s or Su-25s.

Almost our entire military is up to date. Our military budget is about 20 times that of China.

: ) Hopper
 
China's military is modernizing, but there are distinct limits to the modernization program. First, the current force structure is so old that the rate of retirement will exceed the rate of acquisition in all major weapons categories, with the possible exception of major surface combatants. This means that the size of China?s armed forces will continue a recent pattern of decline, and to drop quite steeply in some cases, such as combat aircraft. The only exception may be China's surface combat ships. (See China versus Region charts.)

Second, the modernization is proceeding slowly and in a piecemeal manner. All military forces take a significant amount of time to integrate new weapon systems into its forces; for China the process seems to take longer than most.

Third, China is adding only a handful of modern systems to its inventory. New systems are purchased in small batches or singly, which is cannot dramatically change the balance of power. Moreover, while "modern" relative to existing Chinese systems, current acquisitions from Russia are not as capable as the comparable systems fielded by the United States or even Japan, South Korea, or Taiwan (in some areas).

Finally, China's military modernization plan has highlighted the inability of the indigenous arms industry in China to produce the advanced technology weapon systems that the military wants. The recent return to dependence on foreign assistance (specifically, aircraft and naval vessels from Russia, and technical assistance from Israel) runs contrary to the Chinese government?s desire to fully control its own military destiny.





















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Originally posted by: tec699
Chinese military...
Great, China has over 10,000 tanks...

The vast majority of which are T-55 and T-62 designs, and their most advanced designs in production today are about equal to the T-72 tank.

Of which Iraq had several thousand in the Gulf War and perhaps a thousand today.

It is China's nuclear ability that makes them more or less impossible to invade.

: ) Hopper
 
After reading more on that page regarding China's military, I'm even further convinced that if we had a desire to invade China, and could somehow prevent their use of nuclear weapons, we would win without serious complications.

: ) Hopper
 
Almost our entire military is up to date. Our military budget is about 20 times that of China.
I don't believe this is true - I saw a chart in which our military budget was no more than two or three times that of China 🙂
 
Originally posted by: aswedc
Almost our entire military is up to date. Our military budget is about 20 times that of China.
I don't believe this is true - I saw a chart in which our military budget was no more than two or three times that of China 🙂
China's military budget is about $20 billion.

The United States military budget is about $400 billion.

$400B/$20B = 20 times more

: ) Hopper
 
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