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Women's March speaker tortured a man to death

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JSt0rm said:
Yes we have nothing to learn from people who

1. were victims

2. made mistakes in life


History never repeats so no point in learning about it.
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You liberals keep missing the point. It's not about whether redemption is possible. It's not about life lessons. You don't glorify horrific crime and criminals by letting them be the face of your movement or by making movies of them.

I was going to make a crack about how Jared Fogle will be released in a dozen years or so. But you don't make a movie about what a great guy he was or how he was really the victim. Then I found that someone already beat me to it.

http://beststoriesonline.com/celebrity/2015/09/08/Jared-Leto-Subway.html
 
MongGrel said:
I'm actually still pretty in a suicidal mind state these days, but I do not usually bother mentioning it on the forums, thanks for bringing it up.
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Believe it or not I find no pleasure in talking about it either. It's a touchy subject. I wouldn't bring it up unless I thought it might help to do so. It might not feel good to bring it up right now but how it feels now and the long term effect of bringing it up are two different things. You can't hit a target you can't see.

MongGrel said:
Madoka seems to like collecting Glocks for some reason.

You seem to have many problems of your own from your posts over time.
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You're trying to change the subject by talking about us instead of yourself so you don't have to deal with it. So I'll let you. What problems do I have?

MongGrel said:
You do not have some form of "Jedi Mind Tricks" as much as you would like to think so in your own mind perhaps.
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I didn't say I did. You said it, therefore on some level you think I do. Even if you deny it. I would never call it Jedi Mind Tricks, I'd call it understanding how the mind works, or in some cases doesn't work the way we'd like. You should try it. The mind is far more challenging to program than a microprocessor, that's what drew me to it. Microprocessors are too easy. I like a challenge. If I can help people along the way, that's a bonus. Even if they don't like my methods. It doesn't matter if you like it or not. My litmus test is: Does it work? Does it help people achieve what they really want? Not what they think they want, but what they really want and aren't aware of.
 
madoka said:
You liberals keep missing the point. It's not about whether redemption is possible. It's not about life lessons. You don't glorify horrific crime and criminals by letting them be the face of your movement or by making movies of them.

I was going to make a crack about how Jared Fogle will be released in a dozen years or so. But you don't make a movie about what a great guy he was or how he was really the victim. Then I found that someone already beat me to it.

http://beststoriesonline.com/celebrity/2015/09/08/Jared-Leto-Subway.html
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Jared Leto is a "character" actor. I hate to think what he would do to get into the "mind" of Subway Jared as he apparently did for Joker on Suicide Squad.
 
Darwin333 said:
If that is the case then I find it hard to believe that she didn't know that he was being brutally tortured and makes her a hell of a lot more complicit than simply driving a car to deliver a ransom note.
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She was initially hired to help watch over him as he was tortured. In her words:

"I needed money for a portfolio, and Maria told me all I had to do was witness a rape."
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What kind of person would accept money to watch another person get raped with a metal pole? Psychopaths.
 
madoka said:
She was initially hired to help watch over him as he was tortured. In her words:



What kind of person would accept money to watch another person get raped with a metal pole? Psychopaths.
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She also told an interviewer:

"He [the victim] was going to die anyway, so..."

That tells me that she had a lot more knowledge of what was happening and what was going to happen than has been stated in this thread so far. I'm not jumping on the bandwagon to try and downplay the womans march but I'm of the opinion that anyone who could commit a crime as horrific as this shouldn't ever breathe free air again.
 
Darwin333 said:
That tells me that she had a lot more knowledge of what was happening and what was going to happen than has been stated in this thread so far. I'm not jumping on the bandwagon to try and downplay the womans march but I'm of the opinion that anyone who could commit a crime as horrific as this shouldn't ever breathe free air again.
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Not just more knowledge. She was shown to be a liar.

But there was another moment, on our second day together, when she slipped verbally, and said in an almost irritable way, "He [the victim] was going to die anyway, so . . ." and then she caught herself. I just looked at her. All her previous protestations that when arrested she'd had no idea Vigliarole was dead were clearly lies.
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disappoint said:
Longhair? Is that your best attempt to insult the forum you psychopath and rape apologist cretin?

Now notice how you felt when I called you a psychopath and rape apologist cretin. Probably a bit of anger right? How dare this longhair, gamersgater, sociopath, white, privileged suburban, evil rapist (with no less than 2 victims or it doesn't count) insult me?

You see, you don't like when people insult you do you? But you do it with pride. The problem here is that you don't like insults, but you lob insults at others. If you run into someone like yourself that insults you, you wouldn't like him. This means you hate yourself. You're not acting in a way that you would like others to behave toward you. The biggest tragedy in life zinfamous, is to hate yourself. You might want to take a break from bickering about politics and do something about that. After all you can turn off the forums, but you can't run away from yourself. Everywhere you go, there you are, there he is, the person you hate. How tragic is that? Man I wouldn't live like that if I were you.
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I'm OK, bro.

How you doing?

lol--it's the "royal" longhairs. Not you, specifically. I don't recall you being one of the longhair gamersgate rape apologists, but maybe. I wasn't even directing that at you, specifically.

longhairs comes from that dude in that video the underoos kept posting over and over where the skinny pale longhair is complaining about pizza shops raping kids and evil women torturing him by existing in his presence.

longhairs.
 
Amused said:
Yawn... And meanwhile, Someone cannot understand what rape culture or a male dominated society is. In fact, they deny both exist, and often times, as in this case, together.
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Another one of your many blunders. You'll notice I wasn't foolish enough to accuse someone of not knowing what something means when they can look it up with a Google search in seconds.

The question at hand is not if I know what it means. Of course I do. The question is: What do you mean by it?
 
zinfamous said:
I'm OK, bro.

How you doing?

lol--it's the "royal" longhairs. Not you, specifically. I don't recall you being one of the longhair gamersgate rape apologists, but maybe. I wasn't even directing that at you, specifically.

longhairs comes from that dude in that video the underoos kept posting over and over where the skinny pale longhair is complaining about pizza shops raping kids and evil women torturing him by existing in his presence.

longhairs.
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It certainly seems to have, shall we say, triggered a reaction
 
MongGrel said:
Bull Shit.
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No, it's true. I'm not trying to win points or win arguments here. I don't need the validation. I get more pleasure, personal growth and improve myself if I go learn something by reading some articles or books. Here I am trying to teach others how to think by correcting their mistakes in reasoning. I wish I could help more actually. But, as we all are, I'm limited in my abilities. It's especially difficult to get through to people that don't listen, or don't get it. So I just hope one day they will and I move on.
 
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madoka said:
I was going to make a crack about how Jared Fogle will be released in a dozen years or so. But you don't make a movie about what a great guy he was or how he was really the victim.
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Could be a pretty good movie, against all odds a phoenix raises from the ashes and stops raping. How strong Jared must be to resist those urges? He is a god damn hero if you think about it.
 
disappoint said:
No, it's true. I'm not trying to win points or win arguments here. I don't need the validation. I get more pleasure, personal growth and improve myself if I go learn something by reading some articles or books. Here I am trying to teach others how to think by correcting their mistakes in reasoning. I wish I could help more actually. But, as we all are, I'm limited in my abilities. It's especially difficult to get through to people that don't listen, or don't get it. So I just hope one day they will and I move on.
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More bull shit.

But I won't bother along those lines again, to be polite about it.
 
madoka said:
You liberals keep missing the point. It's not about whether redemption is possible. It's not about life lessons. You don't glorify horrific crime and criminals by letting them be the face of your movement or by making movies of them.

I was going to make a crack about how Jared Fogle will be released in a dozen years or so. But you don't make a movie about what a great guy he was or how he was really the victim. Then I found that someone already beat me to it.

http://beststoriesonline.com/celebrity/2015/09/08/Jared-Leto-Subway.html
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Who the fuck is glorifying horrific crime and murder. I mean I do that as part of my job but aside from me getting paid to make it cool who else!?
 
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The above men are HEROES. Bless them and their struggles. Let us remember them as victims of the patriarchy for all eternity.
 
OutHouse said:
Epic fail. Keep going you are entertaining.
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Wow, this has really, quite literally become like playing chess with a pigeon.

At any rate, I've thoroughly explained why she and her life experience is a good, nay, perfect example of redemption from a life of gender based abuse and the damage it caused to not only her, but those around her and thus is a perfect speaker at the women's march. Some people are solidly in denial and seek to demonize anything and everything about the march. Nothing we say or explain will change their minds and the discussion just dives into absurdity. Those who get it, will get it. Those who don't, well... they'll just keep going on with confirming their own biases anyhow...
 
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Why won't someone PLEASE free this victim of the patriarchy? He wouldn't have lynched that black man if he hadn't been raped repeatedly in prison.
 
Amused said:
Like watching a toddler walk for the first time and falling on their face.
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Amused said:
Wow, this has really, quite literally become like playing chess with a pigeon.
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Why are you wasting your time chatting it up with pigeons and toddlers? Why not just tell them to FOAD? Go on tell us to FOAD. You know you want to. Why waste your time? Cut to the chase. Tell us how you really feel. Wouldn't you be better off if we really did die though? I mean all the people that disagree with you, if they all just died wouldn't the world be a better place? So say so! Stop being such a weak pussy about it.
 
disappoint said:
Why are you wasting your time chatting it up with pigeons and toddlers? Why not just tell them to FOAD? Go on tell us to FOAD. You know you want to. Why waste your time? Cut to the chase. Tell us how you really feel. Wouldn't you be better off if we really did die though? I mean all the people that disagree with you, if they all just died wouldn't the world be a better place? So say so! Stop being such a weak pussy about it.
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ROFL. You funny.
 
disappoint said:
Why are you wasting your time chatting it up with pigeons and toddlers? Why not just tell them to FOAD? Go on tell us to FOAD. You know you want to. Why waste your time? Cut to the chase. Tell us how you really feel. Wouldn't you be better off if we really did die though? I mean all the people that disagree with you, if they all just died wouldn't the world be a better place? So say so! Stop being such a weak pussy about it.
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You clearly have no concept of what the Fsck Off and Die club is all about.
 
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