Women in Sport - Get Naked to be Noticed

[yowolabi]

Originally posted by: LeeTJ

I can't argue with Title IX being necessary, but I don't think there's anyone to blame for people not wanting to watch women's sports with the same passion as men's sports.

actually Title IX is a problem. It's ridiculous to require schools to put JUST as much money into female sports as into male sports. that's just LUDICROUS.

even w/ society changing as quickly as it is, 100 years from now, there will STILL be more men interested in sports than women. It's not culture that dictates that. it's just a simple fact of life, MEN are more into competitive sports than women. to try and legislate that is LUDICROUS at best.

The 50/50 split is probably misguided, but what I meant by Title IX being necessary, is that there needs to be something to make sure women's sports get funded. Otherwise, like before, "not as much interest" will be translated to "no interest" and women won't get a sniff at the field

 

[xospec1alk]

i think women's tennis is better than men's tennis its just more fun to watch, all the men do is hit it back and forth....whereas the women do more with it or something

 

[Anubis]

can't argue with Title IX being necessary, but I don't think there's anyone to blame for people not wanting to watch women's sports with the same passion as men's sports.

Titkle 9 is sh!t!!!!. it was a good idea but it needs to be revised. Schools are forced to cut male programs that once flourished because they have to give so much money to womens sports that there is no intrest in. "Sport" has always been a more male entity. because men are rugged and strong and women are weak and dainty. im not saying that only men should be able to play sports. but taking money away from a program to make a womans hockey program or a womans rugy program is just stupid. if they wanna play so bad they can play with the guys.

 

[LeeTJ]

Originally posted by: yowolabi

Originally posted by: LeeTJ

I can't argue with Title IX being necessary, but I don't think there's anyone to blame for people not wanting to watch women's sports with the same passion as men's sports.

actually Title IX is a problem. It's ridiculous to require schools to put JUST as much money into female sports as into male sports. that's just LUDICROUS.

even w/ society changing as quickly as it is, 100 years from now, there will STILL be more men interested in sports than women. It's not culture that dictates that. it's just a simple fact of life, MEN are more into competitive sports than women. to try and legislate that is LUDICROUS at best.

The 50/50 split is probably misguided, but what I meant by Title IX being necessary, is that there needs to be something to make sure women's sports get funded. Otherwise, like before, "not as much interest" will be translated to "no interest" and women won't get a sniff at the field

they should have a sliding scale. it should start at much less than 50% mb 10% and should max at 30%. but to force schools to put 50% of their spending on womens sports is a significant problem.

 

[prontospyder]

Pat Summit did make the Yahoo Sports Frontpage news when she won her 800th game.
I think women's sports does get a lot of attention, in the Olympics at least.

 

[LeeTJ]

Originally posted by: xospec1alk
i think women's tennis is better than men's tennis its just more fun to watch, all the men do is hit it back and forth....whereas the women do more with it or something

hehehe

the way i see it, all the women do is hit it back and forth. the men, points finish much quicker. and that has been the problem w/ mens tennis. womens tennis today is where mens tennis was 20 years ago. you see EPIC struggles from the base line. you see people come from behind. it's amazing. men's tennis, especially w/ some of the big servers is just server miss point. etc.

they need to slow mens tennis down a bit. make big rackets illegal or something. the big hitters hit too big now. Jimmy Connors one of the all time great tennis players couldn't compete with the big servers of today.

 

[ThePresence]

Big deal, I dont watch little league either. And women's basketball should be on Comedy Central. We watch sports to see people do things that we can't do, things that are so above and removed from the normal persons athletic ability. Women's basketball is not, it's like watching a few of my buddies in the playground, except that my buddies have an inside game, and these women are not my buddies, which makes it less interesting to me. Why would I want to watch that?

 

[FeathersMcGraw]

Originally posted by: Ameesh
have you ever watched a wbna game without falling asleep? those are soooooo boring.

"We no can dunk, but good fundamentals."

 

[HappyPuppy]

The grunting part sounds....strangely......erotic. Hmmmm.

 

[Anubis]

Sports i DONT watch
NBA
NHL
MLB
NFL
Tennis
Golf
Bowling

No if i dont watch teh Male version of these sports why an i gonna watch teh female version??? there are lots of people like me out there who just dont watch any sports so why are they gonn watch womens sports which are less physicial slower and generally boaring

The only sport i watch is SOCCER! and mens socceer. and im not talkin about that MLS crap. i pay for cable and watch the games from england. and there isnt even any womens soccer in england heheh wouldent watch it anyway

 

[Garet Jax]

Originally posted by: rh71
WAIT JUST A MINUTE here... I'm still trying to lobby ESPN to show more NHL hockey...

what does that prove? It's not really about men vs. women vs. sport vs. competitiveness. It's about ratings (how many non-fans can actually follow the puck on tv? ... hence they don't watch it and there's little demand). They aren't biased towards men... they're biased towards what actually is watched (demanded of) more.

In fact, ESPN is more likely to play women's hockey on TV because the game is so much slower than men's that non-fans can actually follow the puck.

 

[Mookow]

Originally posted by: LeeTJ

Originally posted by: yowolabi

Originally posted by: LeeTJ

I can't argue with Title IX being necessary, but I don't think there's anyone to blame for people not wanting to watch women's sports with the same passion as men's sports.

actually Title IX is a problem. It's ridiculous to require schools to put JUST as much money into female sports as into male sports. that's just LUDICROUS.

even w/ society changing as quickly as it is, 100 years from now, there will STILL be more men interested in sports than women. It's not culture that dictates that. it's just a simple fact of life, MEN are more into competitive sports than women. to try and legislate that is LUDICROUS at best.

The 50/50 split is probably misguided, but what I meant by Title IX being necessary, is that there needs to be something to make sure women's sports get funded. Otherwise, like before, "not as much interest" will be translated to "no interest" and women won't get a sniff at the field

they should have a sliding scale. it should start at much less than 50% mb 10% and should max at 30%. but to force schools to put 50% of their spending on womens sports is a significant problem.

How about if they made it 50/50 in terms of funds coming from state, federal, etc, and the schools can decide what to do with revenue generated by the sports? This would make a huge impact at my school, as we sell 105K football tickets... per game. Other schools might not have as dramatic results, but it would make sense to give money to those sports that are generating enough interest to generate revenue

 

[GasX]

Women suck at sports. What is the revelation?

 

[Led Zeppelin]

Exhibit A: The Connecticut women's basketball team wins its 55th straight game last Saturday, breaking the alltime women's record. But unless you happened to get the feed from the Connecticut Public Television network, you couldn't see the game live. ESPN will show men fishing heroically, and Fox will show a man trying to outrun a giraffe, but televise one of the landmark events in women's hoops history? Sorry, baby, you haven't come a long way.


I went to that game, it was at the Hartford Civic Center before a sold out crowd of 16,000 people. Womens basketball is HUGE here in this state. As a matter of fact, the Mohegan Sun Casino just bought a WNBA team, the one from Orlando. I attribute the popularity of Womens basketball from the Huskies winning 3 National Championships, so I can see where it wouldn't be popular elsewhere. As for the other women's sports, they tried the womans football league here, but it was a flop. They had another womens basketball team here, the New England Blizzard of the ABL I think it was, but the whole league went under, this was a few years ago.

 

[Byte]

they should go on WWE

 

[Analog]

Originally posted by: Murpheeee
Interesting editorial from SI.......it would be funny if it weren't so true.

LINK


If you are a woman, there are only three ways to get the sports world to notice you:

1. Strip down to your panties and bra and wrestle over beer.

2. Play crappy tennis but look hot pulling the second ball out of your briefs.

3. Tweak Hootie's nose.

Break records? Win at unthinkable rates? Push the envelope of female athletic achievement? Forget it, sweetheart! How 'bout a boob job?

Exhibit A: The Connecticut women's basketball team wins its 55th straight game last Saturday, breaking the alltime women's record. But unless you happened to get the feed from the Connecticut Public Television network, you couldn't see the game live. ESPN will show men fishing heroically, and Fox will show a man trying to outrun a giraffe, but televise one of the landmark events in women's hoops history? Sorry, baby, you haven't come a long way.

Exhibit B: Tennessee's women's basketball genius Pat Summitt quietly wins her 800th game on Tuesday of last week, becoming the first woman and only the fourth Division I coach to do it. Nationally, it made all the splash of a marshmallow landing in a bog. When North Carolina's Dean Smith hit 800 in 1994, there was so much coverage, you'd have thought he'd just returned from Mars.

"I'm surprised she hasn't gotten more attention for it," says no less than John Wooden, the former UCLA coach who is one of Summitt's biggest fans. "She's only 50. She could win many, many more games." In fact if she coaches as long as Smith did -- until she's 66 -- and keeps winning at her current pace, she'd blow by Smith like he was roadkill and wind up with more than 1,200 wins. Hey, maybe then she'd get on Live with Regis and Kelly!

Exhibit C: At the Australian Open, Serena Williams tries to win her fourth consecutive major -- the Serena Slam, if you will -- and America barely looks up from Joe Millionaire. Of course when Tiger Woods completed his Tiger Slam at the Masters in 2001, a national holiday was nearly declared.

You remember Tiger, right? Used to be Most Dominating Golfer in the World? Not anymore. That title belongs to Exhibit D: Annika Sorenstam, who is coming off one of the most brain-bending seasons since Byron Nelson in 1945. The Ice Queen of Sweden won more than half her starts last year, 13 victories in 25 tournaments around the world. Tiger in 2002? He won six of 22 starts.

You mean you didn't see her on the cover of TIME? Or this magazine? Or Golf Digest? Or Golf? Or on the Today show? Or Letterman or Leno? No? Maybe that's because it never happened. "If Tiger had a year like Annika," says LPGA player Jill McGill, "they'd reschedule sunsets for him."

Sorenstam's agent, Mark Steinberg, also happens to represent Tiger. "She and I talk about it all the time," Steinberg says. "She'd love to have more opportunities, but what can you do?" Last year Tiger did whip Sorenstam in one department. He earned more than $60 million in endorsements to her $2.5 million. Hey, Annika, ever tried a short tennis skirt?

And forget anybody having heard of Exhibit E: Paula Radcliffe. All she did in October was run a marathon in 2 hours, 17 minutes, not only shattering the women's world record but also narrowing to 12 minutes the gap between the men's and women's best times. That means, in the past 40 years, women have improved their record by more than an hour and men by nine minutes. (And to think they used to warn women not to run because their uteruses might fall out.)

All of this crinkles the nose of Exhibit F: Gail Goestenkors, coach of the No. 1 women's basketball team in the land, Duke, which also happened to have the No. 1-ranked men's team last week. The Duke men have sold out every home game since 1990. The Duke women have never sold out.

It doesn't bother the unsquashable Coach G. "We play for ourselves," she says, "for our own excellence." In fact the only opponent who really scares her is George W. Bush. "I'm afraid he's going to change Title IX," she says of the law that requires equal opportunity for men and women to participate in sports at schools that receive federal funding. "He's talking about making [compliance] voluntary. That would be a travesty."

She would know. In seventh grade her school did not have a girls' track team, so she had to run on the boys' squad. The guys hated her for it, and when she'd get into the starting blocks, they would comment on her butt. Or the way she looked in her shorts. "We can't lose Title IX," she says, "because I know what girls would have to go back to."

True, Title IX has caused brutal cuts in men's sports over the past 30 years. But women suffered for 100 years without it. As Wooden says, "The problem with Title IX is that it started way too late. I wouldn't want anything to happen to that program."

A piece of advice, Mr. President: Don't touch Title IX, because the only thing women resent more than being ignored is being denied.

Issue date: January 27, 2003

Sports Illustrated senior writer Rick Reilly pens the weekly Life of Reilly column in the magazine.

why not?

 

[ElFenix]

and he ignores jody conradt's 800th victory... bastard!

 

[Anubis]

Originally posted by: ElFenix
and he ignores jody conradt's 800th victory... bastard!

who???

 

[ViRGE]

Originally posted by: rh71
WAIT JUST A MINUTE here... I'm still trying to lobby ESPN to show more NHL hockey...

what does that prove? It's not really about men vs. women vs. sport vs. competitiveness. It's about ratings (how many non-fans can actually follow the puck on tv? ...

Well, if the NHL actually added the damn chip to the pucks, people could see it(there exists a chip for hockey pucks that lets you overlay/enhance the image using position data from the chip, somewhat like the 1st down line in football).

 

[jonnyjack]

so i click on the link and the ad right next to the article is for the "ultimate swimsuit: 1964 - 2002" and you see a girl from the waist up from the back and just a thin little bikini top. ironic. hahaha

 

[tcsenter]

It's not TV's fault. We don't want to watch women's sports. It's not interesting. Deal with it. If we did, they'd be on TV. All of the preceeding accolomades listed are great. Anyone care? No.

lol! My sentiments exactly. Let's ignore that I'd rather watch the rerun of Joe Millionaire - for the second time - than watch any sporting event, but women's sports are just boring to some exponential power.

Men don't want to watch women's sports, unless its one of those Hawaiin Tropic Miss World Fitness contests. Now that's a female sport!

Hell women don't even want to watch women's sports.

Boo Hoo!

 

[Gillbot]

MMMMMMMMMMMMMMn Anna Kournikova, MMMMMMMMMMMMm

 

[monto]

Originally posted by: yowolabi
Women's tennis is something I watch just as quickly as men's tennis. Not because of the skirts, but because the quality of play is just as good as with the men. Especially since the Williams sisters have been playing.

It's more like the opposite...ever since the WIlliams sisters have dominated, it's stunk for women's tennis..Look at the rallies and stats, they're like 20-40 unforced errors and 5-10 winners for a Williams. It used to be players like Graf, Seles, and Hingis dominating with consistency and placement (a la the men's tour), but with the Williams sisters, it's just pure power and taking big risks much too much of the time. Virtually all points end in errors, rather than winners. These power strikers hit hard enough to force errors from their opponents, and they win the point this way, and I have no gripe about this, but much more often than not the rallies are frequently too short and error prone. I just hope Davenport and Hingis recover fully and peak again...

Watching a Kuerten, Agassi, or Hewitt, and nowadays Roddick and Blake, duke it out with brilliant 20 shot rallies from the baseline is absolutely exhilirating, ending in as many, if not more, winners as forced errors.

 

[DanTMWTMP]

Originally posted by: Nitemare
The Tennessee coach can keep her clothes on....please

The only women's sports that get shown regularly are women's tennis. When other female sports require their athletes to where short skirts, wet t-shirts and grunt periodically...you will be surprised by the Nielson ratings...

LOL...


yeah and figure skating...


sad truth i say... jhehehe

 

[Pocatello]

I don't want the ugly ones to be naked, just the pretty ones