woman who refused c-section charged with murder *NOW WITH PIC*

[Shawn]

Originally posted by: WinkOsmosis
She deserves prison. That will ruin her life.

 

[xboxist]

Originally posted by: TheGameIs21
Thread title should be

IT'S BEEN DECIDED! LIFE STARTS 2 DAYS BEFORE DELIVERY!

Heh.

 

[Sid59]

wow .. something new everyday.

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Originally posted by: Staley8
but abortion is totally legal and actually promoted? I don't get it.

can't abort in the last trimester of pregnancy. most places, unless clear hazardous situations, won't let you abort in the 2nd trimester.

 

[iliopsoas]

Originally posted by: Vic

This would be normal for the LDS church, which has absolutely no concern for women's rights. As is normal for C-sections, the woman was probably legitimately concerned about her ability to reproduce again, and not for vanity reasons.

if you don't know anything about medicine, stop talking as if you are an authority on the subject.

Having a C-section does not impair your ability to reproduce. They may have to deliver by c-sections thereafter but will not have any trouble conceiving again. Also, the surgical incision is down in the pelvis and is easily hidden by a bikini.

Update on this woman

From the sound of it, she appears to be a deadbeat mother and couldn't give a damn about her unborn child.

 

[iliopsoas]

Originally posted by: Don_Vito


As I said before, it's hard to feel too much sympathy given the statements she allegedly made to the nurse, but it is apparent she is not right in the head, and her motivation for electing not to have an operation is really her own business.

Not having an operation is one thing. But when the mother is told by various medical professionals that her unborn child is in danger and she ignores the medical advice, she should be held accountable.

One other thing. As far as her mental competency, she needs to have a psychiatric evaluation and then have the courts decide.

 

[Geekbabe]

Originally posted by: iliopsoas

Originally posted by: Don_Vito


As I said before, it's hard to feel too much sympathy given the statements she allegedly made to the nurse, but it is apparent she is not right in the head, and her motivation for electing not to have an operation is really her own business.

Not having an operation is one thing. But when the mother is told by various medical professionals that her unborn child is in danger and she ignores the medical advice, she should be held accountable.

One other thing. As far as her mental competency, she needs to have a psychiatric evaluation and then have the courts decide.

Considering that another medical professional told her this procedure would ruin her life,perhaps we should haul the RN up on charges as well.

 

[M3at]

Originally posted by: dxkj
Before you all go and tear on this lady, realize that she was probably a morman, and that a c-section would be against her religion to have.

So she trusted that the children would be born fine, and one wasn't. Blame the religion not her.

I hope you are joking dxkj, c-section is NOT against the MORMON religion. How bout you read up on religion before making a claim like that.

 

[TNTrulez]

Not guilty.

 

[Ronstang]

So she is vain and was worried about the scars? Has she looked in the mirror lately, scars on her wootsie are the least of her beauty concerns.

 

[lavaman]

She'll get off on insanity. Pretty standard these days actually.

 

Originally posted by: lavaman
She'll get off on insanity. Pretty standard these days actually.

Um, you don't go free if you're not guilty by reason of insanity. What they have to prove is that you were temporarily insane and not in your NORMAL state of being at the time you made the decision to commit the 'crime.'

And if she is not guilty by reason of insanity she'll likely live out the rest of her days in some sort of institution.

 

[lavaman]

Originally posted by: jumpr

Originally posted by: lavaman
She'll get off on insanity. Pretty standard these days actually.

Um, you don't go free if you're not guilty by reason of insanity. What they have to prove is that you were temporarily insane and not in your NORMAL state of being at the time you made the decision to commit the 'crime.'

And if she is not guilty by reason of insanity she'll likely live out the rest of her days in some sort of institution.

I know what pleading insanity means and living in an institution would seem to me the better option compared to prison. Either way, it's the taxpayers money. Gotta love it.

 

[Hammer]

Originally posted by: Geekbabe

Originally posted by: iliopsoas

Originally posted by: Don_Vito


As I said before, it's hard to feel too much sympathy given the statements she allegedly made to the nurse, but it is apparent she is not right in the head, and her motivation for electing not to have an operation is really her own business.

Not having an operation is one thing. But when the mother is told by various medical professionals that her unborn child is in danger and she ignores the medical advice, she should be held accountable.

One other thing. As far as her mental competency, she needs to have a psychiatric evaluation and then have the courts decide.

Considering that another medical professional told her this procedure would ruin her life,perhaps we should haul the RN up on charges as well.

she said that, not an RN.

 

[gopunk]

i too can't believe somebody that looks like that refused c-section for comestic reasons. how delusional can you get?

 

[BunLengthHotDog]

(FOX News Link) Wow, she punched her child in the face because the toddler picked up a candy bar and started eating it...stating "Now I cannot buy cigarettes"...

Speechless

 

[MrColin]

There's no law that says you have to trust the doctor or nurse who says you need some proceedure. Freedom from medicine we don't want is an inalienable right. So is the right to be an idiot. This affair is none of the government's business.

 

[digitalsm]

Originally posted by: lavaman
She'll get off on insanity. Pretty standard these days actually.

She won't get off on insanity. As shes not insane, she suffers from mild mental illness. Her problems are drug releated. Shes a drug addict cokehead. The living baby had cocain and alcohol in its bloodstream.

 

[digitalsm]

Originally posted by: MrColin
There's no law that says you have to trust the doctor or nurse who says you need some proceedure. Freedom from medicine we don't want is an inalienable right. So is the right to be an idiot. This affair is none of the government's business.

Well they will atleast get her on the child endangerment charges. She'll be competent to stand trial on that charge no matter what. The other charge, maybe, maybe not. Shes a druggie, and thats likely why she refused treatment. She was on coke when delivering.

 

[TallBill]

At least shes cute.

 

[toant103]

that pic is SICK

 

[moshquerade]

two words:
stupid biotch

 

[Peng]

My wife has had 3 c-sections (tubes tied no chnace of more). She almost died after a blood clot on the last one.

You do what you have to if you need to. This woman did not. If her only reason was a scar ..burn in hell/court.

 

[Don Vito Corleone]

Originally posted by: jumpr

Originally posted by: lavaman
She'll get off on insanity. Pretty standard these days actually.

Um, you don't go free if you're not guilty by reason of insanity. What they have to prove is that you were temporarily insane and not in your NORMAL state of being at the time you made the decision to commit the 'crime.'

And if she is not guilty by reason of insanity she'll likely live out the rest of her days in some sort of institution.

You are both wrong, actually (at least in all likelihood). Successful insanity defenses are quite unusual in reality (though common in fiction). If a person is found not guilty by reason of insanity, they can normally only be committed until a doctor finds they are cured, and they can be and often are released well before serving life.

I still think this prosecution is a disgrace - this woman clearly has problems and is an unfit parent, but it is absurd to charge her with murder for declining to have risky surgery.

 

[digitalsm]

Originally posted by: Don_Vito

Originally posted by: jumpr

Originally posted by: lavaman
She'll get off on insanity. Pretty standard these days actually.

Um, you don't go free if you're not guilty by reason of insanity. What they have to prove is that you were temporarily insane and not in your NORMAL state of being at the time you made the decision to commit the 'crime.'

And if she is not guilty by reason of insanity she'll likely live out the rest of her days in some sort of institution.

You are both wrong, actually (at least in all likelihood). Successful insanity defenses are quite unusual in reality (though common in fiction). If a person is found not guilty by reason of insanity, they can normally only be committed until a doctor finds they are cured, and they can be and often are released well before serving life.

I still think this prosecution is a disgrace - this woman clearly has problems and is an unfit parent, but it is absurd to charge her with murder for declining to have risky surgery.

Shes also charged with child endangerment. My bet is they are hoping to have a jury convict of some sort of manslaughter. This is atleast involuntary manslaughter, if not voluntary, I think they could get a jury to convict her of it if they added that as an option, which is likely. Her main problem is drugs and alcohol, she was diagnosed with a minor mental illness which has obviously been compounded with years of coke and alcohol abuse. The child endangerment is a slam dunk. Shes going to jail, its just a matter of how long. And since Utah just passed amendments to their child endangerment charges involving controled substances, its going to be pretty stiff.

 

[Ranger X]

I'd hit it ... WITH MY CAR!!


MY EYES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!