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Woman what that Beat Her Child on CNN Now ;)

Bah. I got beat like that almost daily as a child. That's when my father didn't have a 2x4 or tennis racket in his hands. :| My father went overboard, but this woman being brought up on assault charges is the exact reason we have all these 12-20 year-old PUNK KIDS these days...no DISCIPLINE. How many times can you tell a child "I'll take away your Nintendo if you don't behave?" before they just laugh at you and continue what they were doing anyway? When polite reasoning fails, a good kick in the ass usually works.

They've made it so that you cannot discipline your child. I have swatted my son in the @ss exactly five times in the six years he's been on this earth and every time I did, he knew, that he did something wrong and deserved it. I was so scared that some cell-phone toting family van driving soccer mom was going to call 911....half the time he needed a swat, he didn't get it.

The woman may need anger management and a parenting class (I took a parenting class three years ago...best thing I ever did) but jail time? Please. They'd have given my father The Chair already.
 
There's a real difference in discipline and beating your child. Slamming a child against her car seat and pulling her hair is not discipline. If you think it is, you really need help.
 
Originally posted by: MichaelD
Bah. I got beat like that almost daily as a child. That's when my father didn't have a 2x4 or tennis racket in his hands. :| My father went overboard, but this woman being brought up on assault charges is the exact reason we have all these 12-20 year-old PUNK KIDS these days...no DISCIPLINE. How many times can you tell a child "I'll take away your Nintendo if you don't behave?" before they just laugh at you and continue what they were doing anyway? When polite reasoning fails, a good kick in the ass usually works.

They've made it so that you cannot discipline your child. I have swatted my son in the @ss exactly five times in the six years he's been on this earth and every time I did, he knew, that he did something wrong and deserved it. I was so scared that some cell-phone toting family van driving soccer mom was going to call 911....half the time he needed a swat, he didn't get it.

The woman may need anger management and a parenting class (I took a parenting class three years ago...best thing I ever did) but jail time? Please. They'd have given my father The Chair already.
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Wow. Very well written there MichaelD.
 
Originally posted by: MichaelD
How many times can you tell a child "I'll take away your Nintendo if you don't behave?" before they just laugh at you and continue what they were doing anyway?
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i know i always found my nintendo in the cupboard in the living room. you'd think they could find a better place...

 
Originally posted by: MichaelD
Bah. I got beat like that almost daily as a child. That's when my father didn't have a 2x4 or tennis racket in his hands. :| My father went overboard, but this woman being brought up on assault charges is the exact reason we have all these 12-20 year-old PUNK KIDS these days...no DISCIPLINE. How many times can you tell a child "I'll take away your Nintendo if you don't behave?" before they just laugh at you and continue what they were doing anyway? When polite reasoning fails, a good kick in the ass usually works.

They've made it so that you cannot discipline your child. I have swatted my son in the @ss exactly five times in the six years he's been on this earth and every time I did, he knew, that he did something wrong and deserved it. I was so scared that some cell-phone toting family van driving soccer mom was going to call 911....half the time he needed a swat, he didn't get it.

The woman may need anger management and a parenting class (I took a parenting class three years ago...best thing I ever did) but jail time? Please. They'd have given my father The Chair already.
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I'm all for spanking your kids once or twice when they misbehave, but repeatedly hitting your 4 year old daughter is just messed up. "I'll take away your Nintendo if you don't behave" might work if you actually carry through.
 
Originally posted by: ThisIsMatt
Originally posted by: MichaelD
Bah. I got beat like that almost daily as a child. That's when my father didn't have a 2x4 or tennis racket in his hands. :| My father went overboard, but this woman being brought up on assault charges is the exact reason we have all these 12-20 year-old PUNK KIDS these days...no DISCIPLINE. How many times can you tell a child "I'll take away your Nintendo if you don't behave?" before they just laugh at you and continue what they were doing anyway? When polite reasoning fails, a good kick in the ass usually works.

They've made it so that you cannot discipline your child. I have swatted my son in the @ss exactly five times in the six years he's been on this earth and every time I did, he knew, that he did something wrong and deserved it. I was so scared that some cell-phone toting family van driving soccer mom was going to call 911....half the time he needed a swat, he didn't get it.

The woman may need anger management and a parenting class (I took a parenting class three years ago...best thing I ever did) but jail time? Please. They'd have given my father The Chair already.
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I'm all for spanking your kids once or twice when they misbehave, but repeatedly hitting your 4 year old daughter is just messed up. "I'll take away your Nintendo if you don't behave" might work if you actually carry through.
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she didnt just spank, she punched. Did you see the video MichaelD? Just because your fatehr did it does not make it right. There is a massive difference in spanking as a teaching tool and punching a 4 year old in the face.
 
It wasn't even like the kid did anything. The woman just look around and started beating the crap out of the kid. It's people like that who tourture small animals and pull the legs off of spiders.
 
Originally posted by: iamwiz82
Originally posted by: ThisIsMatt
Originally posted by: MichaelD
Bah. I got beat like that almost daily as a child. That's when my father didn't have a 2x4 or tennis racket in his hands. :| My father went overboard, but this woman being brought up on assault charges is the exact reason we have all these 12-20 year-old PUNK KIDS these days...no DISCIPLINE. How many times can you tell a child "I'll take away your Nintendo if you don't behave?" before they just laugh at you and continue what they were doing anyway? When polite reasoning fails, a good kick in the ass usually works.

They've made it so that you cannot discipline your child. I have swatted my son in the @ss exactly five times in the six years he's been on this earth and every time I did, he knew, that he did something wrong and deserved it. I was so scared that some cell-phone toting family van driving soccer mom was going to call 911....half the time he needed a swat, he didn't get it.

The woman may need anger management and a parenting class (I took a parenting class three years ago...best thing I ever did) but jail time? Please. They'd have given my father The Chair already.
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I'm all for spanking your kids once or twice when they misbehave, but repeatedly hitting your 4 year old daughter is just messed up. "I'll take away your Nintendo if you don't behave" might work if you actually carry through.
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she didnt just spank, she punched. Did you see the video MichaelD? Just because your fatehr did it does not make it right. There is a massive difference in spanking as a teaching tool and punching a 4 year old in the face.
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That was my point (maybe you didn't mean to quote me?). I was saying there is a difference between a disciplining spanking and an uncalled for beating.
 
I did see a clip of the video on the local news back when it happened.

But, I WAS NOT aware that she punched the girl in the face...they didn't show that. You don't EVER hit a child w/a closed fist...that's just wrong. I'm all for giving the kid a hard smack when it's warranted, but punching is a horrible thing to do to a kid.

Believe me, I know my Father was wrong for what he did. It's why I left home at 18. I was bigger than him at that point...and came damn close to punching him back quite a few times. I remember him telling me "boy, if you ever hit me back, you'd better keep hitting me b/c if you don't, I will kill you." Believe me, I had no doubt he would've done it....
 
Originally posted by: MichaelD
I did see a clip of the video on the local news back when it happened.

But, I WAS NOT aware that she punched the girl in the face...they didn't show that. You don't EVER hit a child w/a closed fist...that's just wrong. I'm all for giving the kid a hard smack when it's warranted, but punching is a horrible thing to do to a kid.

Believe me, I know my Father was wrong for what he did. It's why I left home at 18. I was bigger than him at that point...and came damn close to punching him back quite a few times. I remember him telling me "boy, if you ever hit me back, you'd better keep hitting me b/c if you don't, I will kill you." Believe me, I had no doubt he would've done it....
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IMHO, slamming your kid against a seat by her hair is wrong too.
 
Frankly it seems absurd to me to defend this woman's actions under the auspice of legitimate discipline - this was a grown woman, repeatedly punching a 4-year-old in the face, for no apparent reason. It was her dumb luck that she was under video surveillance, which means she will be prosecuted where thousands of other parents would not have been - this does not make her actions tolerable, legally or morally.
 
Originally posted by: Don_Vito
Frankly it seems absurd to me to defend this woman's actions under the auspice of legitimate discipline - this was a grown woman, repeatedly punching a 4-year-old in the face, for no apparent reason. It was her dumb luck that she was under video surveillance, which means she will be prosecuted where thousands of other parents would not have been - this does not make her actions tolerable, legally or morally.
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I'm all for spankings and corporal punishment, but I think she did go way over line MichaelD. The kid allegedly misbehaved while she was in the store plus she was pissed because the store would not give her a cash refund. She took her anger out on the child not for what the child did, but because she did not get her way. You never ever strike a child when you are angry and never with a closed fist. I got a belt once as a child...Once, I repeat. That is all it took. That was for sneaking off and going swimming unsupervised with a cousin when I did not know how to swim as a child....ie, I could have easily drowned and I really did deserve it.

What exactly did the child due to warrant this treatment?

 
Originally posted by: MichaelD
Believe me, I know my Father was wrong for what he did. It's why I left home at 18. I was bigger than him at that point...and came damn close to punching him back quite a few times. I remember him telling me "boy, if you ever hit me back, you'd better keep hitting me b/c if you don't, I will kill you." Believe me, I had no doubt he would've done it....
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That's adorable. What a perfect example of spanking done improperly.

Spanking should only be a necessesity for the first few years of development. My father used to hit me frequently when I was a child. As I got older the beatings were fewer and farther between because I learned to "fight" back - I'd swat my father's hand away and run for my life. I've had words with my father along those same lines, Michael. We both know, if he were to ever hit me again, I'd beat him within an inch of his life. This resentment is from the "spanking" I received when I was a kid.

As a rule of thumb: If your parent threatens to kill you if you fight back, then said parent has no business having children.

It pains me to see a relationship between a parent and child that screwed up.
 
Originally posted by: KnightBreed
Originally posted by: MichaelD
Believe me, I know my Father was wrong for what he did. It's why I left home at 18. I was bigger than him at that point...and came damn close to punching him back quite a few times. I remember him telling me "boy, if you ever hit me back, you'd better keep hitting me b/c if you don't, I will kill you." Believe me, I had no doubt he would've done it....
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That's adorable. What a perfect example of spanking done improperly.

Spanking should only be a necessesity for the first few years of development. My father used to hit me frequently when I was a child. As I got older the beatings were fewer and farther between because I learned to "fight" back - I'd swat my father's hand away and run for my life. I've had words with my father along those same lines, Michael. We both know, if he were to ever hit me again, I'd beat him within an inch of his life. This resentment is from the "spanking" I received when I was a kid.

As a rule of thumb: If your parent threatens to kill you if you fight back, then said parent has no business having children.

It pains me to see a relationship between a parent and child that screwed up.
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Yeah, there is no love lost b/t my father and I. Currently, he is in a coma-like state (not on life support though) waiting to die in a hospice. He is unable to move or speak and barely opens his eyes at all. I have no desire to see him before he dies. My younger brother feels "I owe him." I owe him nothing. He almost killed me numerous times and if not for my mother, would've thrown me out in the street at fifteen years old b/c I "talked on the phone too much" and raised my hands to block his blows. He had no business fathering children.

Oh, would the rest of you stop bashing me, please; I already said I disagree w/the woman's treatment of the child, ok?
 
What get's me is how oblivious the woman is to the issue.

She contends that her child being away from family is punishment enough for roughing up her daughter. Did it ever occur to her that it wasn't about her (the woman) and rather about protecting her daughter?

The mother definitely needs a time-out.

-geoff
 
Originally posted by: MichaelD
Bah. I got beat like that almost daily as a child. That's when my father didn't have a 2x4 or tennis racket in his hands. :| My father went overboard, but this woman being brought up on assault charges is the exact reason we have all these 12-20 year-old PUNK KIDS these days...no DISCIPLINE. How many times can you tell a child "I'll take away your Nintendo if you don't behave?" before they just laugh at you and continue what they were doing anyway? When polite reasoning fails, a good kick in the ass usually works.

They've made it so that you cannot discipline your child. I have swatted my son in the @ss exactly five times in the six years he's been on this earth and every time I did, he knew, that he did something wrong and deserved it. I was so scared that some cell-phone toting family van driving soccer mom was going to call 911....half the time he needed a swat, he didn't get it.

The woman may need anger management and a parenting class (I took a parenting class three years ago...best thing I ever did) but jail time? Please. They'd have given my father The Chair already.
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Your redneck dad probably hit you a little too hard in the head a couple times. My parents spanked me too but you don't see me condoning a woman assaulting her 4 year old daughter.
 
Originally posted by: Jellomancer
Your redneck dad probably hit you a little too hard in the head a couple times. My parents spanked me too but you don't see me condoning a woman assaulting her 4 year old daughter.
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Do you always post before reading the entire thread? Or do you just like being a jackass.
 
The woman may need anger management and a parenting class (I took a parenting class three years ago...best thing I ever did) but jail time? Please. They'd have given my father The Chair already.
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Well, then I think they should have fried your father - just to set an example for all of the bad parents out there in the world. Our daughter, now 9, has never been slapped. We have other methods of disciplining her (taking away her allowance, etc.). She is very, very well behaved. I think any parent that has to slap or hit their child (even if they think it's proper discipline), is a coward. Just because the parent has failed at being a proper parent still does not give them the right to hit or slap their child.

My mother pulled this sh!t when I was younger. Eventually, in my early teens I was big enough that I could stand up to her - and she didn't pull that crap again on me. She would then head for my younger sister and brother - so, I would block myself between her and my brother and sister so she couldn't touch them. I'm glad for what I did. However, since my brother was so young, he doesn't remember much of the times when I stepped in to save his @ass. Because of this, my brother has a problem with my dislike towards my mother - and I'm saddened that he feels this way. If I had let my mother whip his @ass, maybe he wouldn't have been so quick to forget the hell that he lived in.

Simply put, this b!tch needs to be jailed. Let the word get around on the charges that she's incarcerated for - she'll get "set straight" real quick!
 
Originally posted by: KnightBreed
Originally posted by: Jellomancer
Your redneck dad probably hit you a little too hard in the head a couple times. My parents spanked me too but you don't see me condoning a woman assaulting her 4 year old daughter.
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Do you always post before reading the entire thread? Or do you just like being a jackass.
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Thank you...you beat me to it. I'm hardly a redneck. I'm first-generation American. My Father was an off-the-boat Italian immigrant with an eigth-grade education and no pity or remorse whatsoever. My Mom was quite attractive in her younger years (no Frued jokes, please) my father was not so attractive. She was a trophy to him. She wanted kids. He obliged and wasn't really happy about it and took it out on us. Boohoo. Life goes on. That was a long time ago.

Here's Mike on The Record:

1. I condone physically hitting children when it is warranted.
2. Punching or kicking children is a definite no-no.
3. Slapping or pulling hair or ears, within reason is perfectly acceptable.

These are my opinions. If you disagree, you have that right. Have a good day.
 
Originally posted by: KnightBreed
Originally posted by: Jellomancer
Your redneck dad probably hit you a little too hard in the head a couple times. My parents spanked me too but you don't see me condoning a woman assaulting her 4 year old daughter.
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Do you always post before reading the entire thread? Or do you just like being a jackass.
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He just likes to be a jackass.
 
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