Woman Uses Sperm from Oral Sex to Impregnate Self, Gets Child Support

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waggy

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It appears your article left out some pertinent info. Please read (they had sex, she didn't impregnate herself)


http://www.judicialaccountability.org/articles/suitonspermstolen.htm

Looks like his lawyer tried the sperm stealing trick to get him out of paying child support????

I feel sorry for the child, what a despicable, irresponsible father she is stuck with.


Although the mother isn't much better, she was married and carrying on with this guy, and let him think they were going to get married. Sounds like the guy found out she was married and was so pissed that he tried to disown her and the kid by any means possible.





that does not say she didn't take the sperm and impregnate herself. just that she didn't "steal" the sperm.

This women is trash. she was married and lead this guy on. she was cheating on her husband when she got pregnant.

I have no clue IF she did what he claimed (doubtfull though) but she is far worse then he is.
 

lothar

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Child support is designed to provide the child with a life similar to which they would have if the parent not living with them were. It isnt some penalty for adults. Children arent cheap.

As for the protecting herself line. You are correct but the child wasnt created without the father. If he isnt ready for the responsibility of raising a child. He should stick to solo work.
Does it really cost $800/month to take care of a child?
If so then I'm not sure how my mom did it after my father died almost 15 years ago.
She is a nurse that raised 4 kids making about $75-80k before taxes working a full time job and a part time weeknight job.
I don't see how that's possible...Subtract taxes, subtract mortgage, insurance and $38,400 every year from raising 4 kids.
 

waggy

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Does it really cost $800/month to take care of a child?
If so then I'm not sure how my mom did it after my father died almost 15 years ago.
She is a nurse that raised 4 kids making about $75-80k before taxes working a full time job and a part time weeknight job.
I don't see how that's possible...Subtract taxes, subtract mortgage, insurance and $38,400 every year from raising 4 kids.

thats what get's me about some child support. the numbers are rather off the more income the father has.
 

highland145

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Does it really cost $800/month to take care of a child?
If so then I'm not sure how my mom did it after my father died almost 15 years ago.
She is a nurse that raised 4 kids making about $75-80k before taxes working a full time job and a part time weeknight job.
I don't see how that's possible...Subtract taxes, subtract mortgage, insurance and $38,400 every year from raising 4 kids.
Based on a percentage of income, in S.C., with some other F-ed up calculations included. Used to be 17%,iirc, but that's changed.

If you care, skip to page 10 of the PDF.

http://www.state.sc.us/dss/csed/forms/2006guidelines.pdf
 
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HumblePie

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Your calculations are at 50% though. Child support should be your part of supporting a child. So if it's an $800/month cheque, the cost of support should be $1,600.

At $800/month it would be cheaper to get joint custody and hire a nanny for your two weeks a month!

correct.

also children ARE cheap to raise. It just people like to spend more on them because they want to. Not because they have to. Kids do not need to eat out every night of the week on expensive meals. They do not need the latest iPhone, Xbox, a new video game every week, and 55" TV and what not.

Good food that is shopped for well with coupons and on deals is cheap enough. Water, and cheap toy, and thrift store clothing is really all a kids needs. There are plenty of people in this country that live on an income of $10K a year with 2-5 kids and get by. Not easily, but people do this every day.

Still as noted, child support is supposed to be based off the income of the two parents for giving a child a life they would have if the parents were together and spending like parents would do for that child if they were all living together. To me I find the formula they are using for this a bit screwed personally.

Also, when it comes to child support, it is up to the father in question to dispute a charge. Unfortunately, this is within a limited time frame in most states. Even more unfortunate that this is is a really short time frame in many states.

I remember seeing a map of the united states with the time limit laws, but can't remembered where I last googled it though. Some of these time frames are really screwed up in the extreme. I think I remember it was Kentucky where the father has only 30 days after birth to dispute that a child that was born is not biologically his. So if a mother has a kid, puts down a guys name on the birth certificate as the father and the father doesn't dispute that within 30 days then it is his then on. There is also no legal obligation for the women to inform the man that they have 30 days to dispute. Cause once that time passes he is stuck on the birth certificate and is liable for child support. Even if a DNA test later proves he is not the biological father. However, I think I remember them changing a bit of the law to at least make the hospitals try to contact the proposed father if a mother is alone giving birth now at least.


I also remember reading this statistic thrown out on a couple sites, including some more reputable news sites, about 30% of men paying child support in this country are doing so for kids not biologically theirs. And about 40% of men raising kids with a woman are raising a child that is not biologically their own and they think it is. Kinda sucks when you think about it. Now I'm going to have to track down those statistics though because this was from memory.
 

catilley1092

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I believe that there's more to this story than is being told. First, while I believe that it's possible that a woman could take the semen out of her mouth with her finger, then shove it into her vagina, and become pregnant, it's a little hard to believe all of this.

First of all, time is critical, as well as preparation. Sperm cells "swims" quickly into the uterus upon ejaculation, to be able to place it into a "test tube" would take quite a bit of knowledge, as the semen would have to be handled promptly and properly for this, all of the necessary time to do this would render the sperm cells damaged to some degree.

If it wasn't done properly, and impregnation did occur, it would be highly likely for the child to have birth defects. Unless this chick really knew what she was doing (the dude would've had to leave in a hurry for this), I don't see it.

I could see the woman taking the semen out of her mouth, then without delay, placing it into her vagina with her finger, but the "test tube" deal, I just don't believe it.

Cat
 

shiner

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Did she get a receipt?


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Jeeebus

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lothar

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Based on a percentage of income, in S.C., with some other F-ed up calculations included. Used to be 17%,iirc, but that's changed.

If you care, skip to page 10 of the PDF.

http://www.state.sc.us/dss/csed/forms/2006guidelines.pdf
So if I lived in SC, I'd have to spend ~$1,100/month on child support for one kid?
On the old SC system, I'd have to pay $1,700+/month in child support for one kid?

Do these calculations include buying the kid an iPod, iPhone, and a PS3 console every month? :confused:

Mom...How did you do it?
Sheesh.
 

highland145

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So if I lived in SC, I'd have to spend ~$1,100/month on child support for one kid?
On the old SC system, I'd have to pay $1,700+/month in child support for one kid?

Do these calculations include buying the kid an iPod, iPhone, and a PS3 console every month? :confused:

Mom...How did you do it?
Sheesh.
You're at $100k, she's at $0 = $940 per month assuming no other benefits like insurance or alimony.

2 kids =$1260
3 kids =$1410

Mom love you.:wub: That's worth a truck load right there.

Edit: The Jeebus deluxe model.
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actuarial

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Jan 22, 2009
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correct.

also children ARE cheap to raise. It just people like to spend more on them because they want to. Not because they have to. Kids do not need to eat out every night of the week on expensive meals. They do not need the latest iPhone, Xbox, a new video game every week, and 55" TV and what not.

And fathers will still buy presents for their kids anyways. It's not like you pay child support and then don't get them a Christmas present etc.

Child support should be half of base needs. If the wife has to work, then I think daycare should be halved as well (that's the cost of not having to get daycare yourself with joint custody). There's no way any kid COSTS $1,600 a month.

And sure, the kid might get into a really expensive sport. But if that happens in a non-divorced family, they only do it if they can afford it (and generally make the decision together). So stuff like that would have to be agreed upon and then the father would chip in half.

The current system is broken.
 

HumblePie

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I believe that there's more to this story than is being told. First, while I believe that it's possible that a woman could take the semen out of her mouth with her finger, then shove it into her vagina, and become pregnant, it's a little hard to believe all of this.

First of all, time is critical, as well as preparation. Sperm cells "swims" quickly into the uterus upon ejaculation, to be able to place it into a "test tube" would take quite a bit of knowledge, as the semen would have to be handled promptly and properly for this, all of the necessary time to do this would render the sperm cells damaged to some degree.

If it wasn't done properly, and impregnation did occur, it would be highly likely for the child to have birth defects. Unless this chick really knew what she was doing (the dude would've had to leave in a hurry for this), I don't see it.

I could see the woman taking the semen out of her mouth, then without delay, placing it into her vagina with her finger, but the "test tube" deal, I just don't believe it.

Cat

Who cares how many are damaged? You only need ONE to make it.
 

Genx87

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Your calculations are at 50% though. Child support should be your part of supporting a child. So if it's an $800/month cheque, the cost of support should be $1,600.

At $800/month it would be cheaper to get joint custody and hire a nanny for your two weeks a month!

Highly unlikely. Have you see the cost of child care? For many people it is cheaper to not work. 800\month would be cheap. I believe most of my friends are paying 250-350 a week.

That said the 1600 figure is closer to the true cost of a child when you start adding in the cost of housing, utilities, food ect.
 
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Genx87

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Does it really cost $800/month to take care of a child?
If so then I'm not sure how my mom did it after my father died almost 15 years ago.
She is a nurse that raised 4 kids making about $75-80k before taxes working a full time job and a part time weeknight job.
I don't see how that's possible...Subtract taxes, subtract mortgage, insurance and $38,400 every year from raising 4 kids.

How much do you believe it takes to raise a single child? The court believes 800 in this case. What makes you believe it should be less? And if so, what figure would you put it at?

I believe 800 is probably still low in some situations given a child will consume housing, utilities, food, school supplies, clothing, sports, medical, toys and entertainment.
 
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moshquerade

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that does not say she didn't take the sperm and impregnate herself. just that she didn't "steal" the sperm.

This women is trash. she was married and lead this guy on. she was cheating on her husband when she got pregnant.

I have no clue IF she did what he claimed (doubtfull though) but she is far worse then he is.
Yes, I am aware of what it says. I want you to be aware that the original article posted left out details.

Also, I am not sticking up for this woman. If you read my previous comment you would realize that. But, if the woman was this guy's "fiancee" at the time it's more than likely they had sex.

How do you choose which one is more trustworthy as you seem to believe the man's story...
And how is she worse than he is? Both share the title if you ask me.
 

Svnla

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So we all agree that the "average" child support amount per kid is $800 per month?
 

Hacp

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Fuck, why do liberal judges hate MEN? Why don't women ever pay child support? Why do women always get the kid? This injustice needs to stop, right now.
 

jlee

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Highly unlikely. Have you see the cost of child care? For many people it is cheaper to not work. 800\month would be cheap. I believe most of my friends are paying 250-350 a week.

That said the 1600 figure is closer to the true cost of a child when you start adding in the cost of housing, utilities, food ect.

Two kids at your figure "cost" more than what I take home.

Somehow I doubt that, unless you live in a really expensive area.
 

highland145

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Two kids at your figure "cost" more than what I take home.

Somehow I doubt that, unless you live in a really expensive area.
Supposed to be on the take. j/k

On the S.C. chart $2200 gross for you, she makes 0.

$439 for 1
$616 for 2.
 

zinfamous

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Fuck, why do liberal judges hate MEN? Why don't women ever pay child support? Why do women always get the kid? This injustice needs to stop, right now.

I have little doubt that you are an idiot in RL.