Woman Uses Sperm from Oral Sex to Impregnate Self, Gets Child Support

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Genx87

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Child support is such a dumb, archaic law. Birth control is also the woman's responsibility, if she chooses not to protect herself, then she should support the kid.

Child support is designed to provide the child with a life similar to which they would have if the parent not living with them were. It isnt some penalty for adults. Children arent cheap.

As for the protecting herself line. You are correct but the child wasnt created without the father. If he isnt ready for the responsibility of raising a child. He should stick to solo work.
 

shiner

Lifer
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I would have gotten a vasectomy right when I turned 18 if I could have. Fucking doctors think it's their business to tell you if you're sure you don't want kids.

Hey, doctors, I was sure I didn't want them when I was a teenager, and I'm still sure now as I approach 30. Give me the fucking vasectomy.

I got one last year...when the doc started that shit I told him either he would get paid for it or someone else would. Up to him if he wanted to miss out on the $.
 
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I think the moral of the story is that men should get vasectomies until they are ready to have kids, and then have them undone.

They are not always able to be undone.

I would have gotten a vasectomy right when I turned 18 if I could have. Fucking doctors think it's their business to tell you if you're sure you don't want kids.

Hey, doctors, I was sure I didn't want them when I was a teenager, and I'm still sure now as I approach 30. Give me the fucking vasectomy.

You know what worked for me? Saying my long term gf of 4 years and I don't want kids, plan to get married, and telling them what they "need" to hear. I might have exaggerated a little, but I didn't lie about anything. Besides, it is my own body and there is no medical reason to prohibit it (i.e. complications and such).

Unfortunately, a vasectomy isn't a guaranteed fix.

It's better than condoms are. Also, today they snip out a section THEN using a soldering type heat gun seal the ends with scar tissue. It's not 100%, but about as close as we currently can get (short of castration).
 

amdhunter

Lifer
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Child support is such a dumb, archaic law. Birth control is also the woman's responsibility, if she chooses not to protect herself, then she should support the kid.

Men should have the ability to force women to abort the baby, or abort financial responsibility.

There are far too many women out their making a paycheck off men who don't deserve it.
 

mmntech

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The key here is that this woman deceived the guy. It's equivalent to poking a hole through a condom. Having this child was not a consensual act nor an accident caused by negligence. This woman has mental issues. Since he has to pay for the kid anyway, he should file for custody.
 
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I got one last year...when the doc started that shit I told him either he would get paid for it or someone else would. Up to him if he wanted to miss out on the $.

That works too if you don't want to "stretch the truth" and/or lie outright (i.e. say you have a kid, fiancee who doesn't want kids, etc).

I got lucky and the first doc I went to agreed to do it. I went in and didn't question anything about doing it. Told him I have wanted to do it for years, etc, etc (all of which was true btw). He agreed to do it even though I was only 23 at the time.
 

Duder1no

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How does child support work for women who re-marry? My brother in law is separated and pays child support even tho the ex re-married, shouldn't the new father take over all expenses for my brother in law's kid or is he still responsible, this is in CA BTW
 

Perknose

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Give me the fucking vasectomy.

I'm here for you.

Now bite down on this stick while I sterilize my pocket knife with my lighter, and we'll get right to this.
 

DrunkenSano

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Child support is designed to provide the child with a life similar to which they would have if the parent not living with them were. It isnt some penalty for adults. Children arent cheap.

That's what it was designed for, but it has become corrupted because women use it as a paycheck now to buy whatever crap they want. They need to fix the system so that they only charge the man the amount it costs to buy baby supplies, which will be purchase for the woman beforehand and items shipped to her.
 

SearchMaster

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How does child support work for women who re-marry? My brother in law is separated and pays child support even tho the ex re-married, shouldn't the new father take over all expenses for my brother in law's kid or is he still responsible, this is in CA BTW

That's really a question for you???
 

moshquerade

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A bizarre one that certainly wipes the grin off any man’s face, it seems the age old joke of ‘Did she spit or swallow’ is a valid question any man would seriously want answered now.

A man has filed a lawsuit against his ex-girlfriend for abuse, pain, suffering & treachery in a bizarre case which challenged the laws governing child support in America. He filed this claim after his ex-girlfriend obtained a court order forcing him to pay child support for their two year-old daughter. The actual events actually took place in 2005 however the long running battle has brought the issue back in the spotlight.

However it seems the girlfriend needed solid affirmation, in which after oral sex she held the sperm in her mouth and then ended up using a test tube to inject her boyfriend’s semen inside herself.

Curiosity still remains as to how this man was ordered to pay child support when his sperm was used unknowingly. According to reports, Chicago family physician Richard O. Phillips sued his then girlfriend Sharon Irons claiming she put aside his semen after engaging in oral sex and in secret impregnated herself.

Reportedly the two were on good terms in the beginning of their relationship with the intentions of getting married in the future. However it seems the girlfriend needed solid affirmation, in which after oral sex she held the sperm in her mouth and then ended up using a test tube to inject her boyfriend’s semen inside herself.

In the end the courts ordered the man to pay about $800 a month child support in spite of his ex-girlfriends devious scheme. Nonetheless the fact still remained that he was the natural father. And suitable support for his daughter had to be made.

http://www.popjolly.com/woman-uses-sperm-from-oral-sex-to-impregnate-self-gets-child-support-2109
It appears your article left out some pertinent info. Please read (they had sex, she didn't impregnate herself)

Sperm Was Gift, Sez Court
By Corky Siemaszko
New York Daily News
February 27, 2005

t's a case of conception - by alleged deception.


A Chicago doctor claims his ex-fiancée stole his sperm by performing oral sex - and then used his seed to impregnate herself.

Richard Phillips admits that six years ago he and Sharon Irons, also a physician, had a brief romance.

He insists that during that time they had oral sex three times - but no intercourse.
But Irons' lawyer said Phillips is simply trying to get out of paying child support for their 5-year-old daughter.

"It's the first time I've had a guy use this excuse," the lawyer, Enrico Mirabelli, said. "His complaint is the best work of fiction I have read since 'The Da Vinci Code.'"

In a lawsuit alleging that Irons engaged in "extreme and outrageous" conduct,
Phillips claimed she used subterfuge to get pregnant. He said he broke off their relationship after discovering that Irons was still married.


The Illinois Appeals Court last Wednesday agreed that Phillips, 54, can press a claim for emotional distress, but ruled that Irons didn't steal the sperm.

"She asserts that when plaintiff 'delivered' his sperm, it was a gift," the decision said. "There was no agreement that the original deposit would be returned upon request."
The court did not rule on Phillips' claim on how Irons got pregnant and sent the case back to Cook County Circuit Court.

"It's a pack of lies," Irons, 40, told the Chicago Sun-Times.
Irons said Phillips got her pregnant the old fashioned way and was "very happy" at first. But when Phillips got cold feet and split, Irons said she had to haul him into court to get $800 a month in child support.

Several fertility experts told the Sun-Times the sordid scenario Phillips described could "theoretically" result in a pregnancy.

http://www.judicialaccountability.org/articles/suitonspermstolen.htm

Looks like his lawyer tried the sperm stealing trick to get him out of paying child support????

I feel sorry for the child, what a despicable, irresponsible father she is stuck with.


Although the mother isn't much better, she was married and carrying on with this guy, and let him think they were going to get married. Sounds like the guy found out she was married and was so pissed that he tried to disown her and the kid by any means possible.




 
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Genx87

Lifer
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How does child support work for women who re-marry? My brother in law is separated and pays child support even tho the ex re-married, shouldn't the new father take over all expenses for my brother in law's kid or is he still responsible, this is in CA BTW

I am in a similar situation to this. I am dating an amazing women who has a single child who is 12 years old. We are going down the road towards marriage right now. The father has limited visitation rights(every other weekend) and has 3 soon to be 4 other children with another women. It sounds like what will happen is he will wave visitation rights and go to an open visitation. While he will pay some nominal amount for child support. I think the states still require some sort of arrangement. My GF said set it at 5 bucks a month or something.

The state wont look at a new male as a father and absolve the birth father of responsibility. I do believe however this can be affected if the new male adopts the child or children.
 

Genx87

Lifer
Apr 8, 2002
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That's what it was designed for, but it has become corrupted because women use it as a paycheck now to buy whatever crap they want. They need to fix the system so that they only charge the man the amount it costs to buy baby supplies, which will be purchase for the woman beforehand and items shipped to her.

I am willing to bet the vast majority of women dont have the disposable income to use that as a paycheck. You think 800 bucks a month is a paycheck? This is 10,000 a year for a single child. Between food, medical needs, school supplies, toys. 800 bucks a month usually wont cut it. My GF makes in the mid 60s and still lives paycheck to paycheck with child support.

It is real rare you will see a women recieve an ungodly amount of child support from a man.

Children are effing expensive.
 

highland145

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How does child support work for women who re-marry? My brother in law is separated and pays child support even tho the ex re-married, shouldn't the new father take over all expenses for my brother in law's kid or is he still responsible, this is in CA BTW
Dad pays for his own kids.
 

her209

No Lifer
Oct 11, 2000
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How does child support work for women who re-marry? My brother in law is separated and pays child support even tho the ex re-married, shouldn't the new father take over all expenses for my brother in law's kid or is he still responsible, this is in CA BTW
LOL. Just because your ex remarries doesn't free you from having to pay child support.
 

Duder1no

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Insert test tube with sperm, open end first into vagina.
Lie on back and raise said vagina into the air.
Sperm trickles out of test tube by the force of gravity eventually reaching egg.

Obviously these dudes are not golfers.
 
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Duder1no

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LOL. Just because your ex remarries doesn't free you from having to pay child support.

And can I please know why the hell not?

New dad should take over ALL fucking responsibilities, including your brand new child's support! :mad:
 

SKORPI0

Lifer
Jan 18, 2000
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Only in Chicago can something like this shit happen, not surprised at all. Guys, always make sure that she either spits or swallows after you're done. Not sure how long sperm can still be viable after leaving the man. One wonders why pregnancy is so difficult to for some folks.