Woman Reveals EXACTLY Why Donald Trump Is Popular

[Indus]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lZakMCuiiDA

I think Cenk is right on both accounts and this is probably why Hillary is vunerable because she just like Trumpathon tends to lie and double down on what is the safest political position.

I would not be surprised if she doesn't survive the primary.. people are sick of liars.. on both sides but I disagree just like Cenk on which side is the bigger liar ofcourse.

 

[BonzaiDuck]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lZakMCuiiDA

I think Cenk is right on both accounts and this is probably why Hillary is vunerable because she just like Trumpathon tends to lie and double down on what is the safest political position.

I would not be surprised if she doesn't survive the primary.. people are sick of liars.. on both sides but I disagree just like Cenk on which side is the bigger liar ofcourse.

I would've felt more certain if I'd actually attempted to keep a score and tally. But for myself, I've answered that question a long time ago.

Well -- to throw out an example of a lie everybody understands:

January, 1999. George W. Bush on CSPAN, following the heated exchange between Nicole Seligman and a Congressman Graham (Cracker -- can't help myself) on the floor of the congress: "Mr. Bush. Are you running for President?" "Washington is a cesspool. I will not run for President."

And I knew everything I needed to know. Except I didn't really know if he would win. Or if the Supremes would weigh in on it.

 

[Jhhnn]

Finally! The Donald told her just what she wanted to hear so she believed it!

That's what Strong Leaders! do, right?

 

[Gonad the Barbarian]

He's dead on, especially the media criticism, whose consistent failure at exposing actual truth is far more threatening to the country than any lying politicians.

 

[HamburgerBoy]

Literally worse than Trump.

 

[FerrelGeek]

He's dead on, especially the media criticism, whose consistent failure at exposing actual truth is far more threatening to the country than any lying politicians.

If the media actually did it's effing job, and the average citizen were genuinely more interested in what's going on in this country vs the latest reality show, this country would rise up in full rebellion and burn DC to the ground. The DC power elite care only about themselves and the elites that keep them in power.

 

[Doc Savage Fan]

Literally worse than Trump.

Wow...just wow. What a moron.

 

[Blackjack200]

Wow...just wow. What a moron.

That's disappointing. I was never a huge Cenk Uygur fan, but I thought he was okay. This is not something you can shrug your shoulders and overlook.

 

[fskimospy]

That's disappointing. I was never a huge Cenk Uygur fan, but I thought he was okay. This is not something you can shrug your shoulders and overlook.

Yeah, what a scumbag. It isn't easy to be a worse human being than Donald Trump, but genocide denial will get you there.

 

[Gonad the Barbarian]

Yeah, what a scumbag. It isn't easy to be a worse human being than Donald Trump, but genocide denial will get you there.

Well from what I can tell it's something he last did in 1999 and hasn't been spouting anything else about it since. Also his Young Turks cohost is Armenian:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ana_Kasparian
In any event, holocaust denying dick or not, he's absolutely right here.

 

[Don Vito Corleone]

I am not particularly a Hillary fan, but there is no credible basis for believing she will not survive the primaries. There is just no question she will be nominated (and, in my view, only a slightly lesser chance she will be elected, particularly if Trump is either the GOP nominee or runs as a third-party candidate).

 

[Doc Savage Fan]

That's disappointing. I was never a huge Cenk Uygur fan, but I thought he was okay. This is not something you can shrug your shoulders and overlook.

I was of the same opinion. But this...damn, it's right up there with holocaust denial.

 

[Sheik Yerbouti]

Yup, this guy is a moron to believe that, however, the trumplestiltskin supporter is pretty frightening in her own right.

 

[fskimospy]

Well from what I can tell it's something he last did in 1999 and hasn't been spouting anything else about it since. Also his Young Turks cohost is Armenian:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ana_Kasparian
In any event, holocaust denying dick or not, he's absolutely right here.

I don't think she's particularly vulnerable to Trump. He appeals to a portion of the electorate precisely because he lies so shamelessly, but I sincerely doubt the coalition of people who like his aggressive lying, conservatives willing to back any Republican candidate no matter how odious and sufficiently gullible people is equal to 50%+ of the vote.

If he's publicly repudiated his prior statements then fine by me. If he hasn't, not making new ones doesn't make his prior ones any better.

 

[trenchfoot]

From her rant I gather that she believes Trump's offerings and rejects most or all of what most other politicians offer up in their rhetoric.

That. Is. Some. Scary. Shit.

I'd really like to hear what she has to say about what Bernie Sanders is lying about, as it's my opinion that among all of the pols in the running, he's as close to being less of a liar than all of the others.

It seems to me that our politicians take for granted that we, the voters, acknowledge that they lie (pander) to get our votes, and that it's for us to understand and accept that fact, yet still trust in them that what we wanted to hear from them to get our votes was the part of their rhetoric that they were being truthful about.

That's some really fucked up "logic" right there.

Yet, Trump, with his mega-pandering wholesale non-stop lying spree is given a pass on all of that and has managed to gain the trust of a considerable segment of the Repub base precisely because he is telling his target demographic exactly what they want to hear, truth be damned.

So then, I'm to believe that it really doesn't matter what Trump says that's important, it's the fact that he's somehow "different" than all the others, when the real difference is that he simply lies much more blatantly and with much more sincerity?

How desperate can a person get to rationalize themselves into believing that that's what really matters to them to decide who to vote for?

Where did we go wrong here?

 

[dank69]

From her rant I gather that she believes Donald "When was the last time you saw a Chevrolet in Tokyo?" Trump's offerings and rejects most or all of what most other politicians offer up in their rhetoric.

That. Is. Some. Scary. Shit.

I'd really like to hear what she has to say about what Bernie Sanders is lying about, as it's my opinion that among all of the pols in the running, he's as close to being less of a liar than all of the others.

It seems to me that our politicians take for granted that we, the voters, acknowledge that they lie (pander) to get our votes, and that it's for us to understand and accept that fact, yet still trust in them that what we wanted to hear from them to get our votes was the part of their rhetoric that they were being truthful about.

That's some really fucked up "logic" right there.

Yet, Donald "When was the last time you saw a Chevrolet in Tokyo?" Trump, with his mega-pandering wholesale non-stop lying spree is given a pass on all of that and has managed to gain the trust of a considerable segment of the Repub base precisely because he is telling his target demographic exactly what they want to hear, truth be damned.

So then, I'm to believe that it really doesn't matter what Donald "When was the last time you saw a Chevrolet in Tokyo?" Trump says that's important, it's the fact that he's somehow "different" than all the others, when the real difference is that he simply lies much more blatantly and with much more sincerity?

How desperate can a person get to rationalize themselves into believing that that's what really matters to them to decide who to vote for?

Where did we go wrong here?

Unfortunately a huge segment of the population's ability to fact check boils down to passing a single litmus test: Does it confirm my existing beliefs?

 

[BonzaiDuck]

Unfortunately a huge segment of the population's ability to fact check boils down to passing a single litmus test: Does it confirm my existing beliefs?

I'd seen "that woman" hyping her candidate some four or five times without the Cenk and his comment.

Take, for instance, the fear and apprehension of risk. She is absolutely positively sure that Obama (with the JCS, CIA, DOD, NSA, Homeland Security and FBI) isn't doing enough to protect us from the terrorists.

We've been there before. 911 had more than 200 times the fatalities of San Bernardino, well-coordinated and bizarre in its planning. The Boston Marathon attack by the Tsarnaevs killed 3, wounded 264. Paris, for the same sort of attack as SB (and all the other non-ISIS-related), was extensively coordinated, directed at more prominent and symbolic targets, and almost 10x the fatalities of SB. 911 should not have meant spending between $1 trillion and $2 Trillion on Iraq -- which has now exacerbated the same sort of threat.

Certain simpleton segments of the public seem to think you can spend infinitely on eliminating 100% of the risk, or that you can achieve the absolute. But you can't eliminate 100% of any risk, and as you move toward that absolute target, you will only spend more and more.

It may be that the American public's idea of risk has changed over 50-some years, or it may be that many in the public have never fully understood the concept of risk in the first place.

It seems as though Trump's supporters are also ignoring something, and the behavior of a certain dynastic leader shows that he feels ignored. Kim Jong Un is now boasting of a Hydrogen bomb. All of the panic about Islamic extremists has taken him out of the forefront, so he's trying to push his way back in.

 

[Jhhnn]

Unfortunately a huge segment of the population's ability to fact check boils down to passing a single litmus test: Does it confirm my existing beliefs?

The deeper question is how did they come to believe that stuff in the first place?

Through relentless right wing propaganda applied for decades. A lot of it is the kind of stuff where if you're dumb enough to believe it then you're too dumb to have thought it up yourself.

It manifests itself as some sick emotional satisfaction gained through outrage & self righteousness, some apparently delicious sense of persecution & a cult like devotion to what's best described as religious belief masquerading as politics.

 

[BonzaiDuck]

The deeper question is how did they come to believe that stuff in the first place?

Through relentless right wing propaganda applied for decades. A lot of it is the kind of stuff where if you're dumb enough to believe it then you're too dumb to have thought it up yourself.

It manifests itself as some sick emotional satisfaction gained through outrage & self righteousness, some apparently delicious sense of persecution & a cult like devotion to what's best described as religious belief masquerading as politics.

Well . . . there's the palaver and exaggeration.

There's also the seeming rational common sense that you can't infer or deduce certain things from other things amplified beyond a simple presentation of facts. So various incomplete rationalizations take on the aspect of certain Truth, as inevitable consequences.

Throw in alarums and fear, a feeling of uncertainty, and one has a malleable base of support.

Meanwhile, the Administration is attempting a public relations effort to give people some sort of confidence in the face of all the misinformation and hype. Today, they feature a photo-op of the Pres, Vice-Pres, Secretary of State and others meeting with the JCS and other officials to discuss a strategy against ISIS.

Immediately after, the media announced that Clinton will weigh in on her own anti-terrorist, anti-ISIS strategy.

Now -- keep in mind that in the waging of any war, even if you don't want to call it a war, it is important to keep your battle-plans and strategy secret from the Enemy. This of course works against a democratic society and its requirement of disclosure. And we saw how this caused ISIS strategies to morph and change, even as the GOP was egging on the Pres to "explain his strategy against ISIS."

So the photo-op reveals nothing of a strategy, except the President's concern that we "have to move faster."

And what Hillary says may be no less intended to mislead ISIS than to provide a pablum of reassurance to the base or the potential base. Who knows, really? And what would you want, after all? "Tell me the strategy so I can be sure you're doing your job?" And meanwhile, so that the Enemy can play catch-up?

The entire world is under a sense of threat from those monsters, but we have the loudest mega-phone, and we're "King of the Mountain." At least one faction in the political struggle wants to thump their chest and shout that we're "King of the Mountain." That's as much as a lightning rod for terrorist preoccupation as anything else.

Wait a minute . . . OK . . . I got it right. I didn't say "Trump their chest . . . "

 

[Jhhnn]

Well . . . there's the palaver and exaggeration.

There's also the seeming rational common sense that you can't infer or deduce certain things from other things amplified beyond a simple presentation of facts. So various incomplete rationalizations take on the aspect of certain Truth, as inevitable consequences.

Throw in alarums and fear, a feeling of uncertainty, and one has a malleable base of support.

Meanwhile, the Administration is attempting a public relations effort to give people some sort of confidence in the face of all the misinformation and hype. Today, they feature a photo-op of the Pres, Vice-Pres, Secretary of State and others meeting with the JCS and other officials to discuss a strategy against ISIS.

Immediately after, the media announced that Clinton will weigh in on her own anti-terrorist, anti-ISIS strategy.

Now -- keep in mind that in the waging of any war, even if you don't want to call it a war, it is important to keep your battle-plans and strategy secret from the Enemy. This of course works against a democratic society and its requirement of disclosure. And we saw how this caused ISIS strategies to morph and change, even as the GOP was egging on the Pres to "explain his strategy against ISIS."

So the photo-op reveals nothing of a strategy, except the President's concern that we "have to move faster."

And what Hillary says may be no less intended to mislead ISIS than to provide a pablum of reassurance to the base or the potential base. Who knows, really? And what would you want, after all? "Tell me the strategy so I can be sure you're doing your job?" And meanwhile, so that the Enemy can play catch-up?

The entire world is under a sense of threat from those monsters, but we have the loudest mega-phone, and we're "King of the Mountain." At least one faction in the political struggle wants to thump their chest and shout that we're "King of the Mountain." That's as much as a lightning rod for terrorist preoccupation as anything else.

Wait a minute . . . OK . . . I got it right. I didn't say "Trump their chest . . . "

Please. ISIS isn't a pimple on Uncle Sam's ass. It sure as Hell isn't a panzers at the gates of Moscow scenario no matter how badly some want to paint it that way.

I was talking about something deeper, the sour attitudes & reflexive fear of America's Right, their willingness to believe in damned near any conspiracy theory imaginable that confirms their entrenched misperceptions & biases.

It's all calculated to get people to buy into the ideology of trickledown economics as part of a package deal. Middle class people don't vote Republican so that they can keep taking that ass raping but rather because they set it aside in favor of wedge issue emotionalism.

 

[BonzaiDuck]

Please. ISIS isn't a pimple on Uncle Sam's ass. It sure as Hell isn't a panzers at the gates of Moscow scenario no matter how badly some want to paint it that way.

I was talking about something deeper, the sour attitudes & reflexive fear of America's Right, their willingness to believe in damned near any conspiracy theory imaginable that confirms their entrenched misperceptions & biases.

It's all calculated to get people to buy into the ideology of trickledown economics as part of a package deal. Middle class people don't vote Republican so that they can keep taking that ass raping but rather because they set it aside in favor of wedge issue emotionalism.

Well, first paragraph was the point I was making.

I completely agree with the rest of it. If one's reading consists mostly of "The Drudge Report" or any of several other rags, then a person is "informationally challenged" on top of being "logically challenged."

You can't tell people that a cabal which engineered a sole-source war-contract for Halliburton is more relevant to the nation's future than the disposal of fetal tissue. Not if they've fixated on the latter.

I can't add anything to what you've said. I CAN prove your own explanation of history, pertaining to a movie that Sinatra once had pulled from public view -- innocent enough even if promoted from the bowels of the national security apparatus, but inspirational to about two or three people who concocted a "propaganda of action" to complement the film's release a year after.

The Wing-nuts still believe the old official canard.

 

[DigDog]

so i clicked on that link.. now youtube is going to fill my recommendation with young turks channel crap ..

please ... put an alert next time.

 

[BonzaiDuck]

We-ull, Pil-grums.

I think they ought to interview the silly b**** after tonight's Panic Party over the LAUSD scare.

I watch all this stuff happening, can't do anything to change it, and I should perhaps get in some good laughs before I start crying again.

 

[zephyrprime]

How desperate can a person get to rationalize themselves into believing that that's what really matters to them to decide who to vote for?

Where did we go wrong here?

You're over analyzing it. She doesn't realize that trump is pandering to her and lying.

 

[BonzaiDuck]

You're over analyzing it. She doesn't realize that trump is pandering to her and lying.

I feel sorry for myself that I live in a country with so many myopic, cerebrally-challenged worry-warts.

She had said all the politicians are lying to her. And I'd been keeping score, you know? Since before 2008? The stories about lies are all hyped by the opposition.

So it's like Gene Hackman speaking to a whipped and bleeding Morgan Freeman in "Unforgiven:"

When your lies . . . aren't the same as her lies . . . then I'm going to hurt you, Ned. Not gentle . . . like before . . . but ba-a-a-d!"

I live in a country filled with chuckleheads, like holes in swiss-cheese.

Mark Twain had written a humorous essay about "The Grand Masters" (of the Lie). We're all Grand Masters. People should read from their literary heritage. Then, they could better conclude whose lies are bigger.

It will provoke contentious response, but even if I'd made my conclusions years earlier, the more recent data just proves to be consistent.