What country is this again? The Taliban called, they want their fascist back.. They said they'll pay for your plane ticket.
What country is this again? The Taliban called, they want their fascist back.. They said they'll pay for your plane ticket.
Tell you what, if I were on a jury for a trial in a case like this, the airline would be in trouble -- there would be a hefty judgement for the plaintiff.
Dumb b!tch should have let the baby starve!!!!
Ever think that she is a mother? Who knows her baby best? Maybe she knows the baby is more comfortable without a blanket to covering her up.
Breasts are not for performing in porn movies, they produce milk that infants need.
How stupid. No breast/nipple was showing. it is perfectly natural and not at all sexual, and i would NEVER use an airline blanket. They are filthy beyond filthy.
It would have been one thing if she was exposed, but she wasn't.
It would have been one thing if she was exposed, but she wasn't.
I'm mixed on this one, as others seem to be. The airline didn't try and remove her for breastfeeding, but for her unwillingness to add a little extra discretion, which I consider a legitimate issue on an airline. Also, only the woman says she was covered, but that doesn't necessarily mean she was. Perhaps she wasn't nearly as covered as she thought she was and the flight attendant noticed?
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If you OWN THE PLANE, sure, why not?
If a fat smelly person comes into your house and you're offended, would you think twice before asking them to leave (or making up a lame excuse to get them to leave)?
What people keep seeming to forget here is a plane is private property. Most of you and I obviously do not agree with their decision... but it's their decision to make since it's THEIR PLANE.
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The first problem is she is nursing a kid who is almost 2 years old. Time to stop sucking on the boobie at that age.
The second problem is she should've covered up the boobs since it was bothering people. It would've been easy to be more discreet. Note: she was NOT kicked off the plane for breastfeeding, but for letting her boob hang out.
The third problem is the airline will probably have to settle with her monitarily over this. :roll:
I find the private property argument rather interesting. It's true that it's not a publicly owned aircraft, but I believe that any company using privately owned property in an attempt to profit from the public (like the airline) is forced to yield some of its rights as a property owner over the control of those who would be it's clients or customers on its property. For example, in many states mothers have a right to breastfeed in public places, including restaurants, shopping malls, and the like. Link I'm not a lawyer, but there might be an argument over what constitutes a public place; I don't know. Could a business owner ban free speech on private property? How about being outwardly gay in an obvious fashion?
Could we extend this argument to the smoking ban in public places? (I'm not saying I'm for or against public smoking bans - just using the example). Again, some owner of privately property is yielding control of patron's activities to comply with the laws of the land, but only because that property is used in a public fashion. I think there are many rights a property owner gives up when using that property in a public fashion. I'm sure there is a legal term for this, but again, I'm not a lawyer.
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A customer is using the property owner's property with the permission and invitation of the property owner. ANY private property owner should be free to set any rules he wishes to use his property.
Yes, I know which way the law is going these days on this issue and it's absurd... and irrelevant to my point.
To claim a private property owner gives up rights merely because he sells a product or a service is absurd. From where in the Constitution do customers derive such rights? In my opinion, any "right" of one individual that necessitates the violation or loss of rights of another individual is not and cannot be a "right."
In this case, the property owner loses rights and the customer gains rights. A clear case of UNequal protection under the law.
Again, I do not agree with the airliner's decision. But it is their decision to make.
Example: Anandtech is a privately run message board open to the public. The rules here are absolute. Anything that offends the owner is grounds for removal.
Only in the US - and some Arab countries I guess....
Btw, what was she supposed to so with the blanket? Pull it over the childs head and have it suffocate - or perhaps build a tent with it to hide in - ridiculous
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Only in your ignorance...
In reality, the reactions to breast feeding in public in Europe are as varied as the countries themselves.
The same goes for the Asia where the practice and reaction to it widely varies.
And in nearly all cases where it is allowed, discretion and modesty is the rule.
Since you can't tell the difference between breast feeding and masturbating, you obviously have much bigger problems beyond the scope of an Internet Forum.
Please seek professional mental help.
Here's my 2 cents regarding public breast feeding.
It should be done in your own privacy. If a man puts his hands down his pants and starts scratching his balls, it would be considered rude. The same goes for breast feeding. I know it's natural, and it's none of my business whether a mother does so in her own privacy or not. But when you're in public, show a little respect to others around you. When you have a baby, you will be forced to make certain changes in your life. You cant go to a movie theater because theres a chance the baby will cry and ruin it for others. And if you know you're going to have to breast feed on a plane, either don't make the trip or make the trip without your baby, or use a pump and come with a bottle prepared in advance. Im glad the airline kicked her off the plane. I dont understand what it is that makes people feel as though they can do what they wish and feel that they deserve sympathy and special rights just because they have a newborn baby.
It should be done in your own privacy. If a man puts his hands down his pants and starts scratching his balls, it would be considered rude. The same goes for breast feeding. I know it's natural, and it's none of my business whether a mother does so in her own privacy or not. But when you're in public, show a little respect to others around you. When you have a baby, you will be forced to make certain changes in your life. You cant go to a movie theater because theres a chance the baby will cry and ruin it for others. And if you know you're going to have to breast feed on a plane, either don't make the trip or make the trip without your baby, or use a pump and come with a bottle prepared in advance. Im glad the airline kicked her off the plane. I dont understand what it is that makes people feel as though they can do what they wish and feel that they deserve sympathy and special rights just because they have a newborn baby.
Once a kid is walking & talking, let alone almost 2 yrs old, it's time for the mom to let go & give up public breastfeeding.
She was obviously not doing it discreetly or the attendant would not have noticed.
I'm a woman & I'm disgusted by the la leche propagandists who think anything is ok in public, even whipping them out to nurse a 5 yr old. Bleeeech.
She was obviously not doing it discreetly or the attendant would not have noticed.
I'm a woman & I'm disgusted by the la leche propagandists who think anything is ok in public, even whipping them out to nurse a 5 yr old. Bleeeech.
Whether or not that is true, doesn't change the fact that lots of children get emotional benefit from breast feeding. Moms do too.
There's nothing wrong with breastfeeding itself, but for damn sake, do it in your own privacy. Theres a reason why most people dont change a dirty diaper in a crowded room, and it should be the same reason why they shouldnt breast feed in public.
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