Woman kicked off plane for breast-feeding baby

[Garet Jax]

Originally posted by: bctbct

in a bottle

You obviously have no kids. In order to feed your children breast milk from a bottle, you need to pump it. This introduces a few problems:

When pumping if both hands are being used (one for each breast), then you absolutely cannot cover yourself.
If only using one hand, then it takes twice as long (pumping already takes 15 minutes on industrial strength pumpers.
Then you have the little problem of storing it. Breast milk must be kept chilled or it goes bad quickly. Plus it gets heavy and bulky if you are transporting meals of it.
Plus your body only produces enough milk for the need. So if you pump and breast feed, then you will produce too much and mom will get engorged and swollen.
On top of all of this young children get nipple confusion and cannot easily switch between breast and bottle. Even if there isn't confusion, bottles are easier to use and therefore, children can get lazy and refuse to go back to breast if they are given a bottle.

For these and other reasons, women who want to breast feed usually stear clear of bottles.

 

[SmoochyTX]

Originally posted by: djheater

Originally posted by: SmoochyTX

Originally posted by: djheater

Originally posted by: SmoochyTX

Originally posted by: CollectiveUnconscious
That baby is almost 2 years old. What the hell is it still breast-feeding for?

I don't understand what the outrage is about. Extended Breastfeeding.. is not that uncommon and not a big deal.
I would imagine that the flight attendant's manner caused the mother to overreact and take a "well you can't tell me not to" position, to which the b!tch attendant replied with forcible ejection... she sure showed those no good breast-feeders.

:roll:

<-- father of three... hippy wife breastfed each til about three...

Excuse me for saying this but extended breastfeeding is a load of crap. It's for overprotective mothers who don't know how to let their kids separate.

Breastfeeding is certainly what's best for the baby but by 22 months they don't need breastfeeding anymore. And I don't care what kind of breastfeeding-nazi links you provide.

Simmer down there pal.
It's not a big deal, I grant that our culture has a stick up its collective ass about it, but it's honestly not something anyone should care or argue about.

I'm a gal. I just feel breastfeeding a child who is 22 months old is ridiculous. IMO

What they do in their home (or wherever) is of no concern to me really but if the airline wanted them off then they can't do much about it. I just hope the kid isn't tit-sucking until they're 18. Oh wait. This is America.

LOL

 

[Garet Jax]

Originally posted by: Number1
MSNBC Article

I have nothing against women breast feeding in public but in this case I think the airline is right. She should have used the blanket they offered to cover up.

Have you ever smelled one of those blankets?

They smell horrible and I can only imagine the stuff in them.

 

[djheater]

Originally posted by: SmoochyTX

Originally posted by: djheater

Originally posted by: SmoochyTX

Originally posted by: djheater

Originally posted by: SmoochyTX

Originally posted by: CollectiveUnconscious
That baby is almost 2 years old. What the hell is it still breast-feeding for?

I don't understand what the outrage is about. Extended Breastfeeding.. is not that uncommon and not a big deal.
I would imagine that the flight attendant's manner caused the mother to overreact and take a "well you can't tell me not to" position, to which the b!tch attendant replied with forcible ejection... she sure showed those no good breast-feeders.

:roll:

<-- father of three... hippy wife breastfed each til about three...

Excuse me for saying this but extended breastfeeding is a load of crap. It's for overprotective mothers who don't know how to let their kids separate.

Breastfeeding is certainly what's best for the baby but by 22 months they don't need breastfeeding anymore. And I don't care what kind of breastfeeding-nazi links you provide.

Simmer down there pal.
It's not a big deal, I grant that our culture has a stick up its collective ass about it, but it's honestly not something anyone should care or argue about.

I'm a gal. I just feel breastfeeding a child who is 22 months old is ridiculous. IMO

What they do in their home (or wherever) is of no concern to me really but if the airline wanted them off then they can't do much about it. I just hope the kid isn't tit-sucking until they're 18. Oh wait. This is America.

LOL

I thought pal was gender neutral.

 

[Nik]

Originally posted by: FrankyJunior
She'll win this case so easily... Hope she gets a huge settlement.

They're lucky they weren't in WI. It's illegal here to even make a comment about someone breastfeeding.

Illegal? :roll: That's a constitutional violation to make it illegal.

Anyway, the woman was offered a blanked and was asked to cover up. The plane isn't a public place, it's private property. If the airline has requirements to use their service beyond just paying for a ticket, you are obligated to abide by those rules. If they say cover up your 2-year-old who's breast feeding and they offer you a blanket to do so, do it. They're telling you "yes, you can do that, but you're in OUR house and this is how we do things here so take this blanket." If you don't do it, that's your fault and the airline isn't obligated to allow you to fly.

I hope she gets an airfare refund, which she's entitled to, but I hope she's shot down in flames in court for this ridiculous litigation.

 

[CollectiveUnconscious]

Originally posted by: djheater

Originally posted by: SmoochyTX

Originally posted by: CollectiveUnconscious
That baby is almost 2 years old. What the hell is it still breast-feeding for?

I don't understand what the outrage is about. Extended Breastfeeding.. is not that uncommon and not a big deal.
I would imagine that the flight attendant's manner caused the mother to overreact and take a "well you can't tell me not to" position, to which the b!tch attendant replied with forcible ejection... she sure showed those no good breast-feeders.

:roll:

<-- father of three... hippy wife breastfed each til about three...

Health benefits were highest when weaning began between 4-6 months of age, as determined in the review (Foote & Marriott 2003) of numerous studies on weaning.

 

[Fayd]

the airline wasnt exactly in the wrong, imo. she was offered a blanket, she should have taken it and everyone would have been happy.

 

[SmoochyTX]

Originally posted by: djheater
I thought pal was gender neutral.

It is. Just getting tired of being called a dude around here lately so I had to make sure a female perspective was entered here.

So many folks are worried about upsetting a female (oh noes) that they'll say anything PC even if they don't believe it.

 

[bctbct]

IMO the little kid should have asked flight attendant if it was ok to breast feed.

 

[djheater]

Originally posted by: CollectiveUnconscious

Originally posted by: djheater

Originally posted by: SmoochyTX

Originally posted by: CollectiveUnconscious
That baby is almost 2 years old. What the hell is it still breast-feeding for?

I don't understand what the outrage is about. Extended Breastfeeding.. is not that uncommon and not a big deal.
I would imagine that the flight attendant's manner caused the mother to overreact and take a "well you can't tell me not to" position, to which the b!tch attendant replied with forcible ejection... she sure showed those no good breast-feeders.

:roll:

<-- father of three... hippy wife breastfed each til about three...

Health benefits were highest when weaning began between 4-6 months of age, as determined in the review (Foote & Marriott 2003) of numerous studies on weaning.

The review and studies don't really address extended nursing (or nursing after a year), and in fact the AAP reccomends a full year of nursing. What you may be misunderstanding is that in most extended weaning circumstances nursing is a comfort and is not nutritional to any great degree.
Nobody knows if there is any real benefit or damage caused by extended nursing, as far as I've ever been able to determine... nobody knows how long people generally nurse worldwide either...
It's interesting that it illicits such strong reactions though.

 

[AMCRambler]

Originally posted by: SmoochyTX

Originally posted by: djheater
I thought pal was gender neutral.

It is. Just getting tired of being called a dude around here lately so I had to make sure a female perspective was entered here.

So many folks are worried about upsetting a female (oh noes) that they'll say anything PC even if they don't believe it.

The mods make us. I got a 2 week vacation for saying something disparaging about women. In response to a post about how to get my girlfriend to stop whining I jokingly replied, less talking more beating. BANG! 2 week vacation. Hence the understanding, the PC mod is watching.

 

[BobDaMenkey]

Originally posted by: bctbct
IMO the little kid should have asked flight attendant if it was ok to breast feed.

ZING.


But in reality, the age of the kid isn't as important as the fact that she was asked to cover up. She refused to abide that request, at which point I think the airline is fair in throwing her out.

It's not much different than how they would treat anyone else who could possibly cause a disturbance on the plane to other passengers because of the way their acting.

 

[CollectiveUnconscious]

Originally posted by: djheater
The review and studies don't really address extended nursing (or nursing after a year), and in fact the AAP reccomends a full year of nursing. What you may be misunderstanding is that in most extended weaning circumstances nursing is a comfort and is not nutritional to any great degree.
Nobody knows if there is any real benefit or damage caused by extended nursing, as far as I've ever been able to determine... nobody knows how long people generally nurse worldwide either...
It's interesting that it illicits such strong reactions though.

I'll admit, developmental issues are not my forte. However, we did have a "water-cooler discussion" a few weeks ago on the top, and the general consensus was that the majority of research supported early weaning as developmental issues have been shown to arise from later weaning. However, one guy brought up Freud, and invoking that name, as does invoking the name of God, kills all rational discussion, and we were cut short.

Edit: And some articles from the review came up in the discussion, thus my use of the review.

 

[JBT]

While I think its fine to breast feed in public and even in this case. She really should have taken the blanket...

 

[DayLaPaul]

When I was like 17, a milf was breatfeeding her baby in the seat next to me on a Southwest flight. I didn't complain, but damn do I wish I had brought my shades.

 

[zoiks]

Originally posted by: GuideBot

Originally posted by: FrankyJunior
She'll win this case so easily... Hope she gets a huge settlement.

They're lucky they weren't in WI. It's illegal here to even make a comment about someone breastfeeding.

Illegal? :roll: That's a constitutional violation to make it illegal.

Anyway, the woman was offered a blanked and was asked to cover up. The plane isn't a public place, it's private property. If the airline has requirements to use their service beyond just paying for a ticket, you are obligated to abide by those rules. If they say cover up your 2-year-old who's breast feeding and they offer you a blanket to do so, do it. They're telling you "yes, you can do that, but you're in OUR house and this is how we do things here so take this blanket." If you don't do it, that's your fault and the airline isn't obligated to allow you to fly.

I hope she gets an airfare refund, which she's entitled to, but I hope she's shot down in flames in court for this ridiculous litigation.

:thumbsup:

 

[SSP]

God, whats the BFD with breast feeding in public? I never get why some guys are so offended by it.

 

[Wreckem]

Originally posted by: Amused
While I think the airline is being stupid here and I do not agree with their decision, I have to say an airline (or any property owner) SHOULD be within it's rights to remove her if that's what they want to do.

It IS their airliner, after all.

Exactly she wasnt in a PUBLIC place, she was in a PRIVATELY OWNED aircraft.

The airlines was within its rights.

 

[dmcowen674]

Originally posted by: Amused
While I think the airline is being stupid here and I do not agree with their decision, I have to say an airline (or any property owner) SHOULD be within it's rights to remove her if that's what they want to do.

It IS their airliner, after all.

It's our Country too.

All prudes and wusses are free to leave if they don't like it.

 

[Wreckem]

Originally posted by: FrankyJunior
She'll win this case so easily... Hope she gets a huge settlement.

They're lucky they weren't in WI. It's illegal here to even make a comment about someone breastfeeding.

Uh? Most laws regarding this issue involve a public place. An airliner is not a public place. I hope she sues, that way she'll be in the hole thousands of dollars.

 

[DainBramaged]

Originally posted by: CollectiveUnconscious
That baby is almost 2 years old. What the hell is it still breast-feeding for?

That's what I was wondering. A two-year-old breastfeeding is repulsive.

Edit: I was trying to remember the name of the Le Leche League before djheater posted it. Mom has nine kids and she firmly believes that it is a crock of sh!t to keep breast feeding them after twelve months. I guess she did it with the second born child and had a lot of issues.

 

[Wheezer]

Originally posted by: SSP
God, whats the BFD with breast feeding in public? I never get why some guys are so offended by it.

Your right, and in many localities it is not illegal for women to walk down the street topless.
They can choose to do so at thier leisure...that does not mean they should, nor does it mean that everyone want's to see some chick walk down mainstreet with her tata's hanging out no matter how good looking she is.

Likewise if she walked into a restaurant topless to get some food, she is well within her rights to do so. At the same time that restaurant is well within it's rights to ask her to put on some type of covering if she wishes to eat there and if not she must leave.

Thier refusal to serve her is thier right, they are not obligated to serve anyone and everyone who walks in the door. This airline is no different...it is not a "right" to buy a ticket, nor is it a "right" to do whatever the hell you want on a plane.

If a woman whips out a boob to breastfeed her baby, she is setting herself up for comments bad and good....don't want to hear it? Don't pull your tit out in public. As much "right" as she has to do it, I have as much right to tell her how gross I think it is that she is breast feeding a 2 yr. old....and my right is in the constitution.

 

[zerocool84]

Married With Children


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[Boo Boo]

the attendant got mad cause her boobs were saggy and wrinkly

 

[Hossenfeffer]

Originally posted by: Citrix
what a bunch of crap. why are we so uptight about breast feeding???

:thumbsup: