• We’re currently investigating an issue related to the forum theme and styling that is impacting page layout and visual formatting. The problem has been identified, and we are actively working on a resolution. There is no impact to user data or functionality, this is strictly a front-end display issue. We’ll post an update once the fix has been deployed. Thanks for your patience while we get this sorted.

Woman Goes to Jail for Not Mowing Lawn

Page 11 - Seeking answers? Join the AnandTech community: where nearly half-a-million members share solutions and discuss the latest tech.
Veliko said:
He was clearly mentally ill.

It's good to see that all his neighbours - who no doubt considered themselves to be good, wholesome people because they kept their lawns trimmed - were more interested in ganging up on this vulnerable person than getting him the help he so clearly needed.

"Good neighbourhoods" indeed.
Click to expand...

You dont know for certain anything about that neighbor's mental condition. if he was in fact mentally ill, clearly home ownership/maintenance wasn't for him. That man needs a hospital/asylum whatever... rather than live on his own. Getting evicted was probably the best thing for him as it got him out of the house and somewhere he could get help.

But you do seem to want to make excuses for a man who created the following problems that his neighbors had to bear:
1. Vermin,animals and pests
2. Trash accumulation
3. Unsafe structural condition leading to roof collapse
4. Most likely many other examples of unsanitary/untidy conditions

I really can't believe you are defending all of that. You'd be the perfect neighbor for this man; seemingly the only one in this thread who could bear such "neighborly" behavior and probably even encourage it
 
Last edited:
NetWareHead said:
You dont know for certain anything about that neighbor's mental condition. if he was in fact mentally ill, clearly home ownership/maintenance wasn't for him. That man needs a hospital/asylum whatever... rather than live on his own. Getting evicted was probably the best thing for him as it got him out of the house and somewhere he could get help.

But you do seem to want to make excuses for a man who created the following problems that his neighbors had to bear:
1. Vermin,animals and pests
2. Trash accumulation
3. Unsafe structural condition leading to roof collapse
4. Most likely many other examples of unsanitary/untidy conditions

I really can't believe you are defending all of that. You'd be the perfect neighbor for this man; seemingly the only one in this thread who could bear such "neighborly" behavior and probably even encourage it
Click to expand...

Did you even read the post I was replying to? It's quite clear that this nuisance neighbour was mentally ill, but hey! who cares about that kind of thing when you've got house prices to think about.
 
Veliko said:
Did you even read the post I was replying to? It's quite clear that this nuisance neighbour was mentally ill, but hey! who cares about that kind of thing when you've got house prices to think about.
Click to expand...

You are finally starting to make sense. You said it yourself: "nuisance neighbor" which has nothing to do with home prices. This is about sanitation, pests/vermin and structural collapse which none of his neighbors need to be exposed to.
 
As I've already stated, the most frequently stated defence for these rules is the negative effect an untidy lawn can have on the value of a house - so clearly those people view them a nuisance neighbour for that reason alone.

And again in this particular case you're ignoring the man's mental state; it's all "I don't need that".
 
Veliko said:
As I've already stated, the most frequently stated defence for these rules is the negative effect an untidy lawn can have on the value of a house - so clearly those people view them a nuisance neighbour for that reason alone.

And again in this particular case you're ignoring the man's mental state; it's all "I don't need that".
Click to expand...

How do you suggest a community deal with a hoarder who refuses treatment and is generating unsafe and/or unsanitary conditions?
 
Fanatical Meat said:
How do you suggest a community deal with a hoarder who refuses treatment and is generating unsafe and/or unsanitary conditions?
Click to expand...

Somewhere inbetween 'doing nothing' and 'getting him evicted' lies a middle ground of some kind; I'll leave it to your own imagination as to what that middle ground might consist of, but needless to say his neighbours and the local authorities spent a decade trying to get him evicted without giving it any proper thought.
 
Veliko said:
As I've already stated, the most frequently stated defence for these rules is the negative effect an untidy lawn can have on the value of a house - so clearly those people view them a nuisance neighbour for that reason alone.

And again in this particular case you're ignoring the man's mental state; it's all "I don't need that".
Click to expand...

Yes I agree: I don't need that. Buying a home doesnt entail making excuses for a neighbor's mental condition(one that you absolute cannot substantiate) while he turns the neighborhood to junk.

As I said before in this thread, untidyness has a negative effect on prices but it also has a negative effect on my well being and sense of peace within my own home. When I wake up in the morning, in the place I call home, it stresses me to have to look across the street and see my neighbor's shitty yard with crap strewn everywhere. That feeling alone cannot be measured in dollars and cents but we are forced to quantify it somehow; and usually with a dollar figure

I cant imagine living next to the hoarder in the previous example and having to endure all of the smells. vermin and everything else that goes along with that. I want to sincerely what you would in such a situation since you are so hellbent in this thread on defending and excusing such behavior.
 
Last edited:
Veliko said:
Somewhere inbetween 'doing nothing' and 'getting him evicted' lies a middle ground of some kind; I'll leave it to your own imagination as to what that middle ground might consist of, but needless to say his neighbours and the local authorities spent a decade trying to get him evicted without giving it any proper thought.
Click to expand...

I'd imagine that 10 years earlier the plan wasn't eviction. I'd also imagine that people offered to help clean up. What is done when somebody simply won't comply?
 
NetWareHead said:
Yes I agree: I don't need that. Buying a home doesnt entail making excuses for a neighbor's mental condition(one that you absolute cannot substantiate) while he turns the neighborhood to junk.

As I said before in this thread, untidyness has a negative effect on prices but it also has a negative effect on my well being and sense of peace within my own home. When I wake up in the morning, in the place I call home, it stresses me to have to look across the street and see my neighbor's shitty yard with crap strewn everywhere. That feeling alone cannot be measured in dollars and cents but we are forced to quantify it somehow; and usually with a dollar figure

I cant imagine living next to the hoarder in the previous example and having to endure all of the smells. vermin and everything else that goes along with that. I want to sincerely what you would in such a situation since you are so hellbent in this thread on defending and excusing such behavior.
Click to expand...

This must be a symptom of the Conservative Brain Defect condition I keep hearing about.

"I don't care if he's mentally ill, his grass is giving me a headache! Call the cops!"
 
Fanatical Meat said:
I'd imagine that 10 years earlier the plan wasn't eviction. I'd also imagine that people offered to help clean up. What is done when somebody simply won't comply?
Click to expand...

As I said, I'll leave it to your own imagination as to what the middle ground might actually consist of.
 
Veliko said:
As I've already stated, the most frequently stated defence for these rules is the negative effect an untidy lawn can have on the value of a house - so clearly those people view them a nuisance neighbour for that reason alone.
Click to expand...

There is nothing wrong about being concerned with property values. In fact, if you're a homeowner and not concerned, you're an idiot.

However, that is not the only reason. Most of us don't want to view dilapidated houses with 12" lawns and most of us don't want vermin, pests, and weed seeds blowing into our yard from these unkept lawns.

Again, don't like it? Move where they don't have these rules. My town and HOA has these rules and I am glad they do, though I think my HOA is too lax at times.
 
IndyColtsFan said:
There is nothing wrong about being concerned with property values. In fact, if you're a homeowner and not concerned, you're an idiot.

However, that is not the only reason. Most of us don't want to view dilapidated houses with 12" lawns and most of us don't want vermin, pests, and weed seeds blowing into our yard from these unkept lawns.

Again, don't like it? Move where they don't have these rules. My town and HOA has these rules and I am glad they do, though I think my HOA is too lax at times.
Click to expand...

You realise that we're talking about a case where the 'nuisance neighbour' was mentally ill, right?
 
Veliko said:
You realise that we're talking about a case where the 'nuisance neighbour' was mentally ill, right?
Click to expand...

Yes, and you'll notice I didn't quote your line about the man being mentally ill -- because I am not talking about his specific case but nuisance neighbors in general.
 
Veliko said:
As I said, I'll leave it to your own imagination as to what the middle ground might actually consist of.
Click to expand...

Lets assume that about fifteen years ago they started with somewhere in the middle options and continued for 5 years. What is the next step when the middle options fail?
 
Fanatical Meat said:
Lets assume that about fifteen years ago they started with somewhere in the middle options and continued for 5 years. What is the next step when the middle options fail?
Click to expand...

You're still trying to justify and excuse the eviction of a mentally ill person.

It just goes to show that society is unprepared to deal with mental illnesses, and many people don't even want to deal with it.
 
Darwin333 said:
That same society has obviously placed more concern on grass than what I was speaking of seeing as this lady went to jail and the assholes that caused us all massive very real damage not only didn't go to jail but got to keep their ill-gotten gains.
Click to expand...

I think its a mistake to assume that. Wall street has to be taken care of at the top political level which requires much larger consensus and greater public push than a local grass issue

I'm curious, have you written your elected officials demanding that criminal investigations be brought against those people as I have many many times?
Click to expand...

Yes this is one of the issues I have contacted them about
 
I knew someone who complained vociferously to the city (unfairly, imo) about the conditions of a neighboring property, all because he couldn't stand their biannual backyard parties.

A year later, this person in turn got flagged by the city for major renovations without a permit and operating an illegal business out of his home. It actually cost him thousands of dollars in code violations and repairs, and likely back taxes. So don't be surprised when your glass house isn't shattered.
 
NetWareHead said:
Yes I agree: I don't need that. Buying a home doesnt entail making excuses for a neighbor's mental condition(one that you absolute cannot substantiate) while he turns the neighborhood to junk.

As I said before in this thread, untidyness has a negative effect on prices but it also has a negative effect on my well being and sense of peace within my own home. When I wake up in the morning, in the place I call home, it stresses me to have to look across the street and see my neighbor's shitty yard with crap strewn everywhere. That feeling alone cannot be measured in dollars and cents but we are forced to quantify it somehow; and usually with a dollar figure

I cant imagine living next to the hoarder in the previous example and having to endure all of the smells. vermin and everything else that goes along with that. I want to sincerely what you would in such a situation since you are so hellbent in this thread on defending and excusing such behavior.
Click to expand...

Someone elses "untidyness" stresses you out??? You should get laid more, it helps with the stress and you are obviously very easily stressed. You must freak the fuck out when the neighbors kids accidentally leave a toy just barely on your side of the yard.

Maybe see your doc and get on some sort of medication.
 
Veliko said:
You're still trying to justify and excuse the eviction of a mentally ill person.

It just goes to show that society is unprepared to deal with mental illnesses, and many people don't even want to deal with it.
Click to expand...

So.... the rules don't apply if somebody is mentally ill?
 
Exterous said:
I think its a mistake to assume that. Wall street has to be taken care of at the top political level which requires much larger consensus and greater public push than a local grass issue
Click to expand...

How about just the standard rule of black and white law? Before this debacle I had always assumed that politicians didn't need to be involved for the enforcement of black letter law but I was obviously wrong. When some asshole like me can use fucking Congressional testimony to prove that some elite asshole knowingly and admittedly committed untold counts of fraud, costing Americans trillions of dollars while getting rich himself, yet no charges are filed I learned just how wrong I was.

Yes this is one of the issues I have contacted them about
Click to expand...

Good on you brother, you're one of the few and I thank you.
 
bshole said:
So.... the rules don't apply if somebody is mentally ill?
Click to expand...

No but its rather neighborly to help those in need.

Funny how me and almost all of my atheist friends think that way but most of my Christian friends tend to be more like most in this thread. So very Christ like...
 
You must log in or register to reply here.

TRENDING THREADS

Back
Top