Wolfenstein....Poor Sales

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Special K

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Originally posted by: zerocool84
Originally posted by: KMFJD
Originally posted by: Modelworks
Bargain bin material. Played it on a friends pc, even higher end than mine.Has that consolish gamepad aiming, even with a mouse.

that explains a lot, why the fuck do they do that to pc games?

Because they're all console ports and it's cheaper to just port it over and not change anything to make more money. Hell some games don't even have the Xbox button icons removed from the game.

What is "consolish gamepad aiming"? I thought the aiming was just a function of what you were controlling the game with (360 controller vs. KB + mouse)?
 

TridenT

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Originally posted by: shortylickens
Originally posted by: MTDEW
Wow, didnt expect all the Wolfenstein hate when i started this thread.
Guess everyone is happy with just playing Call Of Duty sequels forever.
I'm not. I'd have preferred a good Wolfenstein game. But thats not what we got. We got crap, with pretty graphics.

The graphics were okay, nothing mind blowing... It could have probably been better if the place wasn't all fucking gray. :|

This game made me sick to my stomach playing it... It had a weird thing to it that made me have motion sickness.
 

MTDEW

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Originally posted by: TridenT
Originally posted by: shortylickens
Originally posted by: MTDEW
Wow, didnt expect all the Wolfenstein hate when i started this thread.
Guess everyone is happy with just playing Call Of Duty sequels forever.
I'm not. I'd have preferred a good Wolfenstein game. But thats not what we got. We got crap, with pretty graphics.

The graphics were okay, nothing mind blowing... It could have probably been better if the place wasn't all fucking gray. :|

This game made me sick to my stomach playing it... It had a weird thing to it that made me have motion sickness.

That would be the head bobbing that most likely made ya nauseous.
Unfortunately turning it off made the weapon scopes not zoom and inability to sprint.

Aiming was/is fine for me, turned off that auto aim in options and it controls just like any other pc fps. (unlike, lets say Dead Space, where it never was 100% correct on pc)

For me personally , i would have liked to have seen this title and Call of Juarez: Bound in Blood do better cuz im so tired of WAR game sequals.

Dont get me wrong i love games with great story lines too, but this title did exactly what i expected, it was a straight forward FPS with that "kill everything that moves" gameplay.



 

Mem

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Originally posted by: Schadenfroh
I will pick it up once it is around $10. I do like a good game with Nazis AND zombies. A great combination.

Commander Keen (and games based on its engine) and Wolf3D bring back memories.

I always wait awhile for the price to drop,I'll be picking up at some point in the near future.

 

PUN

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I played about 30mins of it and absolutely hated.
not even worth $10 imo.
 

marmasatt

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Originally posted by: Special K
Originally posted by: zerocool84
Originally posted by: KMFJD
Originally posted by: Modelworks
Bargain bin material. Played it on a friends pc, even higher end than mine.Has that consolish gamepad aiming, even with a mouse.

that explains a lot, why the fuck do they do that to pc games?

Because they're all console ports and it's cheaper to just port it over and not change anything to make more money. Hell some games don't even have the Xbox button icons removed from the game.

What is "consolish gamepad aiming"? I thought the aiming was just a function of what you were controlling the game with (360 controller vs. KB + mouse)?

It's actually kind of hard to explain if you don't know what we mean. It kind of zooms automatically when you shoot, it's not quite as precise, and almost makes you aim for "areas" instead of where you want to. It just feels wonky - like a 360 controller when you are so used to playing w/ a mouse/kb. I did NOT find this game like that, but I know exactly what people mean by saying it.
 

pm

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It's not a great game, but it's not bad. It probably wasn't worth as much as I paid to buy it but it's not crap. The graphics are good, the game play is pretty good - although it's a bit easy overall even on hard. I think the "veil" power are generally pretty good although it's a shame so much time needs to be spent in the veil because the game ends up washed-out green a bit.

Overall I gave it a "B-" when I reviewed for the gaming group at my company. It's fun enough, and I think it's a decent game. It's not like Bioshock or FEAR where I was amazed by it... it's not even as good as Dead Space, but overall it's decent. It's a standard first-person shooter that is barely different from the last batch of first-person shooters (except for the veil, and even that's been done, although Wolfenstein does it pretty good), not a particularly great one, but it's not bad...


I don't have the consolish game pad aiming - it aims just like a regular PC mouse game, like FEAR. There's an option to turn it on somewhere in the menus - assisted targeting or something like that - but it's off by default.
 

nitromullet

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Originally posted by: venkman
It's Call of Duty 2 with some energy weapons and a crappy hubworld.

The crappy hub world was part of the problem too. The same streets with infinite re-spawn is not what I consider content. Traveling (repeatedly) through the city became a chore, and just wasn't fun after a while.

Talking abut chores, the scavenger hunt for money/tomes/intel was also pretty tiresome, but necessary. Which leads to the next problem...

The money and tomes are necessary because they tried to tie in an RPG element into the game were you bought limited upgrades from the black market, but it was half-assed. If it had been a real RPG, I could've just shot the black market guy in the head, accepted the negative karma, and taken the upgrades from him. That's the point of the a merchant NPC in an RPG - either I do the 'right' thing and pay them, or I do the 'wrong' thing by killing them and/or stealing their wares. If the merchant is just there to give me upgrades in exchange for things I have to find throughout the game, why not just give me the damn upgrade when I find whatever it was that I was supposed to find?

On the plus side, I enjoyed most of the actual combat/missions. Basically, the parts where it was just an FPS were fun to me. It wasn't ground breaking, but it was fun and what I expected buying an id/Raven game. IMO, I think it would have been a better game overall had they just been honest and made it a linear FPS without the inclusion of weak RPG elements and a pretense to having an open world.
 

AyashiKaibutsu

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Originally posted by: RyanPaulShaffer
Bad generic FPS game sold poorly. Color me surprised!

QFT

Also, people blame pirates for poor sales of shitty game! Another surprise!
 

jonks

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Originally posted by: MTDEW
Wow, didnt expect all the Wolfenstein hate when i started this thread.
Guess everyone is happy with just playing Call Of Duty sequels forever.

A game sequel to a storied franchise is released to tepid reviews and you're surprised it didn't sell well, and you're surprised people who read a host of meh reviews didn't pony up $50 for the experience? And if someone doesn't shell out money for a reportedly average FPS you infer they would have no interest in any other original or non-CoD FPS should it be released to praiseworthy reviews?

what exactly is your point, that people should pay $50 for so-so games to subsidize FPS game development in the hopes that eventually a good non-CoD FPS is released?

by the way, cod4 was friggin awesome, and if cod4-2 is as good I'd be quite happy to purchase more of its sequels in coming years
 

Red Irish

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Originally posted by: AyashiKaibutsu
Originally posted by: RyanPaulShaffer
Bad generic FPS game sold poorly. Color me surprised!

QFT

Also, people blame pirates for poor sales of shitty game! Another surprise!

Yeah, that just about sums it up. This game raised great expectations, given the Wolfenstein name-tag. Unfortunately, according to most of the reviews and user comments, it is Wolfenstein in name only.

Poor ports equate to poor sales, yet the poor developers once again point the finger at piracy. Give me a break.

 

DaveSimmons

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Originally posted by: MTDEW
Wow, didnt expect all the Wolfenstein hate when i started this thread.
Guess everyone is happy with just playing Call Of Duty sequels forever.

The art direction didn't do much for me and the reviews called it tired and formulaic. You might like paying $50 for that experience but I'm going to wait until the price drops to $20.
 

Krakn3Dfx

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Originally posted by: MTDEW
Wow, didnt expect all the Wolfenstein hate when i started this thread.
Guess everyone is happy with just playing Call Of Duty sequels forever.

I liked it a lot. It's pretty faithful to the Wolfenstein mythology, even referencing and introducing characters from previous games.

I guess it's formula and stale in the way Halo 3 is to Halo 1 and 2, like MW2 will be to MW1, like L4D 2 will be to L4D 1. Having said that, there's something to be said for a solid, fun shooter, and they do enough with the game to make it fresh and enjoyable IMO. I've run through it once on Bring the Pain and now I'm working my way through on Uber Hard, so yeah, I think it's a pretty good game.
 

Qbah

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I read it sold 105k copies in the first 5 days. ~60k for X360, ~30k for PS3 and ~15k for the PC. Maybe I'll borrow it for my X360 from a friend and see how it is... He said it's kinda nice and he's already done with the game.

But maybe it's time for good ol' BJ to retire...?
 

Barfo

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Jan 4, 2005
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Originally posted by: Qbah
But maybe it's time for good ol' BJ to retire...?

Nah, it was time for the people who own the rights to the franchise to make at least a decent game out of it.
 

lxskllr

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Nov 30, 2004
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I'm anxious to try it. If I had the money, I'd buy it tonight. I'm not expecting much. I just want some gloom, and some Nazis to shoot. I'd pay $40 to have the RTCW maps ported over to the new engine, with nothing else new. It would be sweet if some modders did that with the old levels :^)
 

skace

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It may be bad, I don't know, however I think their biggest mistake is that it isn't on Steam. I didn't even know the fucking thing came out yet because they aren't on Steam. I get my game news these days from Steam Update News that pops up. May be sad, but I only purchase boxes for instant-classics for my collection.
 

Hadsus

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Originally posted by: marmasatt
Originally posted by: Special K
Originally posted by: zerocool84
Originally posted by: KMFJD
Originally posted by: Modelworks
Bargain bin material. Played it on a friends pc, even higher end than mine.Has that consolish gamepad aiming, even with a mouse.

that explains a lot, why the fuck do they do that to pc games?

Because they're all console ports and it's cheaper to just port it over and not change anything to make more money. Hell some games don't even have the Xbox button icons removed from the game.

What is "consolish gamepad aiming"? I thought the aiming was just a function of what you were controlling the game with (360 controller vs. KB + mouse)?

It's actually kind of hard to explain if you don't know what we mean. It kind of zooms automatically when you shoot, it's not quite as precise, and almost makes you aim for "areas" instead of where you want to. It just feels wonky - like a 360 controller when you are so used to playing w/ a mouse/kb. I did NOT find this game like that, but I know exactly what people mean by saying it.

LOL! Nonsense. I'm about half way through. It may have some weird option to toggle that I am not aware of but I left everything pretty much at default and there is no 'console aiming.' It plays like any garden variety FPS.

And itsa pretty good game IMO. Those that don't like it mostly made up their minds in advance. Crisis/Fear/Wolf/Farcry/etcetc. Really there is nothing new in the genre....it's not rocket science....you either like the setting or you don't.
 

colonel

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I dont buy game with consola ports, I play RTCW for years but I will stay away from this lemon.