WLIB: Franken vs Limbaugh

[Chadder007]

Originally posted by: CADkindaGUY

Originally posted by: fjord
Liberal radio doesn't work precisely because liberal thinkers don't need or like to be told what to think. That is why they are liberals. That is why they don't organize well. That is why they don't generally agree, even amongst themselves.

If Franken's show is going to be about simplifying complex issues to fit a preconceived dogma (ala conservative radio), it will fail. Liberal thinkers don't drink Kool-aid.

Buahahahaha - you said it

~! and ~buts are too stuck on themselves to hear or listen to what someone else might have to say. Thanks for the chuckle fjord. Imagine that - a ~ actually admitting to being an elitist. Whodda thunk it.

CkG

Then why has Franken's book been a best seller?

 

[LordMagnusKain]

Originally posted by: Chadder007

Originally posted by: CADkindaGUY

Originally posted by: fjord
Liberal radio doesn't work precisely because liberal thinkers don't need or like to be told what to think. That is why they are liberals. That is why they don't organize well. That is why they don't generally agree, even amongst themselves.

If Franken's show is going to be about simplifying complex issues to fit a preconceived dogma (ala conservative radio), it will fail. Liberal thinkers don't drink Kool-aid.

Buahahahaha - you said it

~! and ~buts are too stuck on themselves to hear or listen to what someone else might have to say. Thanks for the chuckle fjord. Imagine that - a ~ actually admitting to being an elitist. Whodda thunk it.

CkG

Then why has Franken's book been a best seller?

because libel sells.

 

[SViscusi]

Originally posted by: LordMagnusKain

Originally posted by: Chadder007

Originally posted by: CADkindaGUY

Originally posted by: fjord
Liberal radio doesn't work precisely because liberal thinkers don't need or like to be told what to think. That is why they are liberals. That is why they don't organize well. That is why they don't generally agree, even amongst themselves.

If Franken's show is going to be about simplifying complex issues to fit a preconceived dogma (ala conservative radio), it will fail. Liberal thinkers don't drink Kool-aid.

Buahahahaha - you said it

~! and ~buts are too stuck on themselves to hear or listen to what someone else might have to say. Thanks for the chuckle fjord. Imagine that - a ~ actually admitting to being an elitist. Whodda thunk it.

CkG

Then why has Franken's book been a best seller?

because libel sells.

What's libelous about it?

 

[EXman]

Franken is a woman

 

[HardWarrior]

This should be entertaining, for the two days it's on the air.

 

[NesuD]

Originally posted by: DealMonkey

Originally posted by: CADkindaGUY

Originally posted by: fjord
Liberal radio doesn't work precisely because liberal thinkers don't need or like to be told what to think. That is why they are liberals. That is why they don't organize well. That is why they don't generally agree, even amongst themselves.

If Franken's show is going to be about simplifying complex issues to fit a preconceived dogma (ala conservative radio), it will fail. Liberal thinkers don't drink Kool-aid.

Buahahahaha - you said it

~! and ~buts are too stuck on themselves to hear or listen to what someone else might have to say. Thanks for the chuckle fjord. Imagine that - a ~ actually admitting to being an elitist. Whodda thunk it.

CkG

As you well know, elitists come in all flavors including conservative. Fjord does has a good point in that the very nature of liberalism is favoring proposals for reform, being open to new ideas for progress, and being tolerant of the ideas and behavior of others. Whereas the nature of conservatism is to favor traditional views and values; tending to oppose change.

Which explains why Cad frequently uses the argument, "...well it's been like that forever, why change it now?"

Not liking being told what to think does not equal "too stuck on themselves to listen to what someone else might have to say," but whatever Rush told you to think is probably correct relative to your conservative parallel universe.

Sorry DM but some of your statements ring hollow. I have bolded the ideas i think you are erring on. "favoring proposals for reform" translation= favoring proposals for reform that fit the liberal worldview. The same could be said about conservatives as well. "Being open to new ideas for progress" translation= Being open to new ideas for progress that fit the liberal worldview. "being tolerant of the ideas and behavior of others" translation= being tolerant of the liberal ideas and behavior of others.

All three of those claims are completely subjective and in no way the exclusive moral territory of either left or right. Liberalism time and time again has proven itself to be every bit as intolerant of differring ideas and opinions as conservatism. As far as reform goes I have been around long enough to remember the liberals having to be dragged kicking and screaming down the welfare reform road in the 80s and early 90s just to name one example. To try and stake out the moral high ground on Progress, Tolerance, and Reform exclusively for one side or the other is the ultimate elitist hypocrisy.

 

[Shad0hawK]

Originally posted by: DealMonkey

Originally posted by: Shad0hawK

Originally posted by: DealMonkey
Talk radio is thinly-veiled political hate speech. I like to listen to KFI AM 640 here in L.A. just to see what the morons on the extreme right have to say for themselves. Usually, these conservative shows lack all substance, but they make up for it in pure seething anger for all things liberal. Here's the line-up for KFI, it reads like a roll-call of right-wing yahoos: Dr. Laura, the John & Ken show, Matt Drudge, Rush Limbaugh.

i bet you do not see the irony of what you said here ROFL!!!

in this short paragraph you just did everything you deride the right wing "morons" and "yahoos" for, i bet you even had a bit of anger in the background when you wrote it did'nt you?

of course it is somehow "different" when you do the same thing though, is it not? can you show me where the "substance" in your wee diatribe here is?

I'm not angry, I simply have an opinion of talk radio. Is that so horrible? Yup, just a mere poster on an internet forum which without opinion would be a time-delayed news site. How boring would that be?

so in other words, it IS "different" when you do it...

so we can apply that same logic to conservative talk radio. i am sure many of them are not angry, just voicing thier opinions over the air...otherwise it would be a bunch of boring news shows, how boring would that be?

 

[Red Dawn]

I can't imagine Franken's show being any less subjective than Hillbilly Heroin Limbaughs. I seriously doubt if I would ever listen to it!

 

[Dedpuhl]

How in the hell did Franken become the posterchild for Liberals? He is possibly the most annoying person I've ever heard.

...and referring to him as a "humorist" is bold.

 

[LordMagnusKain]

Originally posted by: Dedpuhl
How in the hell did Franken become the posterchild for Liberals? He is possibly the most annoying person I've ever heard.

...and referring to him as a "humorist" is bold.

he must be a "humorist" because he wasn't 'guilty' of libel in his book 'liars' due to his calling his in-acurate negative words in reference to people 'satire';

 

[Gaard]

What are inaccurate negative words?

 

[DealMonkey]

Originally posted by: Shad0hawK
so in other words, it IS "different" when you do it...

so we can apply that same logic to conservative talk radio. i am sure many of them are not angry, just voicing thier opinions over the air...otherwise it would be a bunch of boring news shows, how boring would that be?

Yes, but I'm not on the public airwaves trying to convince a legion of dittoheads how and why to hate teh eval libs, now am I? Nope, I am not.