WLIB: Franken vs Limbaugh

Gaard

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And Janeane Garofalo to boot. :)

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The long talked-about liberal talk radio network has finally found an affiliate in New York - WLIB-AM, The Post has learned.

Air America, as the network will be known, is also expected to announce that outspoken comedian Janeane Garofalo will join pit-bull humorist Al Franken in its line-up.

The left-leaning network is backed mainly by well-heeled Democrats who want a counter-balance to conservative powerhouses like Rush Limbaugh, Sean Hannity and Michael Savage.

The network could be up and running later this month or early April.

Backers of the network are eager to get on the air as quickly as possible in order to play a role in the upcoming presidential elections.

WLIB (1190 AM) currently mixes Caribbean music with black-targeted talk shows after budget cuts forced it to drop its all-talk format three years ago.

Air America and its parent, Progress Media, just moved onto a floor shared by WLIB and sister station WBLS at 3 Park Ave.

WLIB, owned in part by former Manhattan Borough President Percy Sutton and run by his son, Pierre, broadcasts a strong signal over New York City, Westchester and a nice chunk of eastern New Jersey.

It is not known whether WLIB will be purchased outright or leased.

The line-up will pit the new network's talkers directly against the biggest names in radio.

Franken is expected to air at noon and go toe-to-toe with Rush Limbaugh, who has a 15 million-listener head start.

South Florida liberal Randi Rhodes will follow Franken and be up against Sean Hannity (WABC), Bill O'Reilly and Bob Grant (both on WOR) in New York.

She told her West Palm Beach listeners this week that she plans to "bury" Hannity and Grant.

Garofalo is the network's choice for 8 to 11 p.m., Post sources say. Robert Kennedy, Jr. will host a weekend slot.

The network has also leased time on stations in Los Angeles and Chicago and is negotiating in other big cities.


 

nutxo

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Franken is a humorist? I cant imagine listening to that whiney voice for more than 3 minutes.
 

CADsortaGUY

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All I can say is "good luck" - he's going to need it. I'm sure there will be an initial "tune in" factor but it should quickly slide just like the others who have tried.

Should be interesting to see how many stations they have to BUY;)

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UltraQuiet

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Sounds like another job possibility for you know who.

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Janeane Garofalo. I hope she's better at this than she was at Crossfire. I'll bet money she has Noam Chomsky on within the first month.

Required attire: Tin-foil hat. Chinstrap optional.
 

Moonbeam

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Jesus, now I'm going to have to listen to a bunch of brainwashed liberals just like the ditto head idiots on the right. Swell!
 

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Originally posted by: Moonbeam
Jesus, now I'm going to have to listen to a bunch of brainwashed liberals just like the ditto head idiots on the right. Swell!

Remember, any time you criticize a person for the way they think, it is political hate speech. You are no better than those you call bigots.

Zephyr
 

Gaard

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Originally posted by: nutxo
Franken is a humorist? I cant imagine listening to that whiney voice for more than 3 minutes.

It does have a certain nasal quality to it. ;)

I just get tired of listening to all the belligerence and condescendence on the right-wing radio programs. Maybe WLIB will be the same way, but I'll have to listen to it first.

 

NightCrawler

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Originally posted by: Moonbeam
Jesus, now I'm going to have to listen to a bunch of brainwashed liberals just like the ditto head idiots on the right. Swell!


Moonbeam, I thought you were a brainwashed liberal ?
 

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Liberal radio doesn't work precisely because liberal thinkers don't need or like to be told what to think. That is why they are liberals. That is why they don't organize well. That is why they don't generally agree, even amongst themselves.

If Franken's show is going to be about simplifying complex issues to fit a preconceived dogma (ala conservative radio), it will fail. Liberal thinkers don't drink Kool-aid.
 

Moonbeam

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Originally posted by: Zephyr106
Originally posted by: Moonbeam
Jesus, now I'm going to have to listen to a bunch of brainwashed liberals just like the ditto head idiots on the right. Swell!

Remember, any time you criticize a person for the way they think, it is political hate speech. You are no better than those you call bigots.

Zephyr

Where did you get the idea I think I'm better than bigots. Bigots are people too. Get them away from their area of bigotry and they can be rather charming. Factually, though, I guess I could claim to be better if I wanted and still be justified because I was just kidding. I love the brainwashed liberals just like I love the brain dead idiots on the right. Why else would I spend so much time trying to fix them.

 

CADsortaGUY

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Originally posted by: fjord
Liberal radio doesn't work precisely because liberal thinkers don't need or like to be told what to think. That is why they are liberals. That is why they don't organize well. That is why they don't generally agree, even amongst themselves.

If Franken's show is going to be about simplifying complex issues to fit a preconceived dogma (ala conservative radio), it will fail. Liberal thinkers don't drink Kool-aid.


Buahahahaha - you said it:p

~! and ~buts are too stuck on themselves to hear or listen to what someone else might have to say. Thanks for the chuckle fjord. Imagine that - a ~ actually admitting to being an elitist. Whodda thunk it.

CkG
 

fjord

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:D I'm glad you agree CAD. I, ofcourse, am assuming you consider yourself a liberal thinker.
 

DealMonkey

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Originally posted by: CADkindaGUY
Originally posted by: fjord
Liberal radio doesn't work precisely because liberal thinkers don't need or like to be told what to think. That is why they are liberals. That is why they don't organize well. That is why they don't generally agree, even amongst themselves.

If Franken's show is going to be about simplifying complex issues to fit a preconceived dogma (ala conservative radio), it will fail. Liberal thinkers don't drink Kool-aid.


Buahahahaha - you said it:p

~! and ~buts are too stuck on themselves to hear or listen to what someone else might have to say. Thanks for the chuckle fjord. Imagine that - a ~ actually admitting to being an elitist. Whodda thunk it.

CkG

As you well know, elitists come in all flavors including conservative. Fjord does has a good point in that the very nature of liberalism is favoring proposals for reform, being open to new ideas for progress, and being tolerant of the ideas and behavior of others. Whereas the nature of conservatism is to favor traditional views and values; tending to oppose change.

Which explains why Cad frequently uses the argument, "...well it's been like that forever, why change it now?"

Not liking being told what to think does not equal "too stuck on themselves to listen to what someone else might have to say," but whatever Rush told you to think is probably correct relative to your conservative parallel universe. ;)
 

Moonbeam

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Conservatives hold the liberal positions or the a hundred years ago. Go back farther and they would be considered tinfoil hat cases. Of course it would be amusing to see them get burned at the stake.
 

bozack

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Right, so they have print media, movies, television and now they are moving into talk radio...one of the last domain's of conservative media...funny on two parts, first someone on NPR recently said that Talk radio is dying, it will most likely be dead in 20 or 30 years...also the guy I listen to in the afternoons is pretty vehement when it comes to the libs/dems being scared of conservative talk radio, he went so far as to say the attack on stern was just a means at getting at Talk radio, basically libs attacking a lib to make it seem like there is no bias, setting the foundation for further attacks and then going after what they really wanted, cons talk radio...

I think it will be interesting but as others said won't work, and won't be something I listen to....damn and to think I used to find garafolo semi funny....
 

Moonbeam

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Talk radio is the date rape drug of the rich. It's how you knock your victims out so you can get them to vote to screw themselves in the ass all the while picking their pockets.
 

DealMonkey

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Talk radio is thinly-veiled political hate speech. I like to listen to KFI AM 640 here in L.A. just to see what the morons on the extreme right have to say for themselves. Usually, these conservative shows lack all substance, but they make up for it in pure seething anger for all things liberal. Here's the line-up for KFI, it reads like a roll-call of right-wing yahoos: Dr. Laura, the John & Ken show, Matt Drudge, Rush Limbaugh.
 

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Originally posted by: DealMonkey
Talk radio is thinly-veiled political hate speech. I like to listen to KFI AM 640 here in L.A. just to see what the morons on the extreme right have to say for themselves. Usually, these conservative shows lack all substance, but they make up for it in pure seething anger for all things liberal. Here's the line-up for KFI, it reads like a roll-call of right-wing yahoos: Dr. Laura, the John & Ken show, Matt Drudge, Rush Limbaugh.

You might call it "hate speech" but it's still "free speech" and the right to espouse one's opinion is still defended with the blood of our young.

Don't be a hater.
 

DealMonkey

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Originally posted by: Gravity
Originally posted by: DealMonkey
Talk radio is thinly-veiled political hate speech. I like to listen to KFI AM 640 here in L.A. just to see what the morons on the extreme right have to say for themselves. Usually, these conservative shows lack all substance, but they make up for it in pure seething anger for all things liberal. Here's the line-up for KFI, it reads like a roll-call of right-wing yahoos: Dr. Laura, the John & Ken show, Matt Drudge, Rush Limbaugh.

You might call it "hate speech" but it's still "free speech" and the right to espouse one's opinion is still defended with the blood of our young.

Don't be a hater.

It's only free speech if Clear Channel doesn't fire your ass for saying it. Don't be naive. ;)
 

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Originally posted by: DealMonkey
Talk radio is thinly-veiled political hate speech. I like to listen to KFI AM 640 here in L.A. just to see what the morons on the extreme right have to say for themselves. Usually, these conservative shows lack all substance, but they make up for it in pure seething anger for all things liberal. Here's the line-up for KFI, it reads like a roll-call of right-wing yahoos: Dr. Laura, the John & Ken show, Matt Drudge, Rush Limbaugh.


i bet you do not see the irony of what you said here ROFL!!!

in this short paragraph you just did everything you deride the right wing "morons" and "yahoos" for, i bet you even had a bit of anger in the background when you wrote it did'nt you? ;)

of course it is somehow "different" when you do the same thing though, is it not? can you show me where the "substance" in your wee diatribe here is?

:D

 

DealMonkey

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Originally posted by: Shad0hawK
Originally posted by: DealMonkey
Talk radio is thinly-veiled political hate speech. I like to listen to KFI AM 640 here in L.A. just to see what the morons on the extreme right have to say for themselves. Usually, these conservative shows lack all substance, but they make up for it in pure seething anger for all things liberal. Here's the line-up for KFI, it reads like a roll-call of right-wing yahoos: Dr. Laura, the John & Ken show, Matt Drudge, Rush Limbaugh.


i bet you do not see the irony of what you said here ROFL!!!

in this short paragraph you just did everything you deride the right wing "morons" and "yahoos" for, i bet you even had a bit of anger in the background when you wrote it did'nt you? ;)

of course it is somehow "different" when you do the same thing though, is it not? can you show me where the "substance" in your wee diatribe here is?

:D

I'm not angry, I simply have an opinion of talk radio. Is that so horrible? Yup, just a mere poster on an internet forum which without opinion would be a time-delayed news site. How boring would that be? :)