Wisconsin Supreme Court voids stay-at-home order-effective immediately

[Thump553]

I'm surprised this isn't one of the top issues being discussed here-or even posted here yet (unless my lame search skills are to blame). Last night the WI Supreme Court ruled that the current stay at home order in Wisconsin is invalid, Further they made their order effective immediately even though there will be at least a two week delay to implement the procedure the four person GOP court majority and the GOP legislators wanted.

Covid-19 is on the rise in WI-Racine County (just south of Milwaukee) is one of the fastest rising in the country.

The Tavern League called for their members to immediately open their bars upon the issuance of this decision.

I am so sick of these partisan hacks destroying what was a great state.

I predict this decision is going to be copied by other GOP controlled courts across the country. We won't have to wait until fall for the next surge.

Wisconsin Supreme Court strikes down state's stay-at-home order

The Wisconsin Supreme Court has overturned the state's stay-at-home order, ruling it "unlawful" and "unenforceable" in a high-profile win for the state's Republican-led Legislature.

www.cnn.com

 

[fskimospy]

If you read the decision it is downright insane and I don’t mean that lightly. It’s fucking bonkers, equating stay at home orders with Japanese internment camps.

Also, the deciding vote was cast by a justice who already lost his seat in the recent election, he just hasn’t had to vacate it yet because Wisconsin law is dumb.

 

[Dulanic]

Honestly, at this point, let them get themselves killed. You can't protect stupid for everyone. The only bad part is the innocents that get hurt because of them.

 

[KMFJD]

¯\_(ツ)_/¯

 

[theeedude]

Elections have consequences. Wisconsin's only hope is to keep voting Republican vermin out, flip the court, undo the gerrymander, flip the legislature, undo the vote suppression, and start putting people who orchestrated those in jail.

 

[Greenman]

¯\_(ツ)_/¯

The legality of the order has nothing to do with the logic of social distancing.

 

[fskimospy]

The legality of the order has nothing to do with the logic of social distancing.

Of course it does - the question was if the pandemic legally justified continued emergency powers. It was literally the whole point.

I'm sure conservatives against judicial activism will be calling for the removal of the conservative majority in Wisconsin any minute now, right?

 

[Homerboy]

*sigh*.... my state again in the news.

The "best" part of the whole thing is that it basically went like this:

'We demand this be lifted!"
"Ok we lifted it for you"
"Well, wait... we're not ready for you to lift it yet!"

So it's not immediately lifted - it's in place until the 20th. The GOP "won" a total of 6 days (was supposed to be done on the 26th.
We're so fucking fucked.

 

[[DHT]Osiris]

*sigh*.... my state again in the news.

The "best" part of the whole thing is that it basically went like this:

'We demand this be lifted!"
"Ok we lifted it for you"
"Well, wait... we're not ready for you to lift it yet!"

So it's not immediately lifted - it's in place until the 20th. The GOP "won" a total of 6 days (was supposed to be done on the 26th.
We're so fucking fucked.

Really? Shoulda told these folks:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2020/05/14/wisconsin-bars-reopen-evers/

On Wednesday night in the heart of downtown Platteville, Wis., just hours after the Wisconsin Supreme Court threw out the state’s stay-at-home order, Nick’s on 2nd was packed wall to wall, standing room only.

 

[brycejones]

The legality of the order has nothing to do with the logic of social distancing.

This is your willful ignorance talking again.

 

[[DHT]Osiris]

The legality of the order has nothing to do with the logic of social distancing.

See above. Without enforcement, people won't follow the logic, because people as a group are fucking idiots.

You know this, quit being snarky.

 

[brycejones]

Of course it does - the question was if the pandemic legally justified continued emergency powers. It was literally the whole point.

I'm sure conservatives against judicial activism will be calling for the removal of the conservative majority in Wisconsin any minute now, right?

Doubtful, because being pro-life doesn't extend to minimizing the death toll in a pandemic.

 

[Vic]

I want to see the economy back up and running as much as anyone, but just re-opening businesses isn't going to bring the customers back. That won't happen until people feel safe.

 

[fskimospy]

Conservatives: the legislature delegated these emergency powers to the executive (Trump) so he can use them any way he wants without their input.

Also conservatives: sure the legislature delegated these emergency powers to the executive (Evers) but they didn't really mean it so he can't use them anymore.

It reminds me of how Scalia in the same session said the court didn't have any right to second guess Congress when it did something he liked (outlaw gay marriage) and then turned around and said Congress must be second guessed and have their decision invalidated when they did something he didn't like (protect minorities).

 

[fskimospy]

I want to see the economy back up and running as much as anyone, but just re-opening businesses isn't going to bring the customers back. That won't happen until people feel safe.

As I keep mentioning air travel is completely unrestricted yet traffic is down ~90%. If it's the government that's keeping people from doing what they would do otherwise, why aren't people flying to places where the bars and restaurants aren't closed?

 

[HomerJS]

Logically not a good idea to drive 100mph on the highway that's why it's mandated into law. You could kill someone else exercising your rights to drive fast.

We've already seen left up to their own devices the public at large seems unable to handle the idea of an invisible enemy that can make you an asymptomatic carrier that could kill others.

 

[Fanatical Meat]

Not that I think this was a good ruling, I do think this is something that is up to the State and its voters to decide.

 

[[DHT]Osiris]

Not that I think this was a good ruling, I do think this is something that is up to the State and its voters to decide.

Sorry, did the voters vote on this decision? Do they even vote on the SC judges or are they appointed?

 

[Fanatical Meat]

Sorry, did the voters vote on this decision? Do they even vote on the SC judges or are they appointed?

Nope however they can vote for the people who seat them and/or make laws.
Before it comes up I totally understand if filthy Wisconsin folks come to my State they’ll spread their deplorable disease

 

[HomerJS]

Sorry, did the voters vote on this decision? Do they even vote on the SC judges or are they appointed?

The ruling was 4-3. The conservative judge who was voted out isn't off the bench yet.

 

[fskimospy]

Not that I think this was a good ruling, I do think this is something that is up to the State and its voters to decide.

Didn't they decide that when they elected the governor and the legislature?

 

[Fanatical Meat]

Didn't they decide that when they elected the governor and the legislature?

Absolutely they did, now they have to keep doing it long term.
I’d prefer the Federal Government to give useful advice to States regarding reopening so the could coordinate but obviously that is not going to happen.

 

[IronWing]

Didn't they decide that when they elected the governor and the legislature?

The voters of Wisconsin didn't elect the legislature. The majority of voters rejected the Republican candidates but gerrymandering kept the Republicans in power anyway.

 

[Jhhnn]

Facts are no match for Libertopian headsets. Science says this can easily get away from us. Trumpsters say "Fuck You, Deadly Pandemic!" with the same gusto they say ""Fuck You, Libtards!"

And there you have it. "Muh Freedumb!" is an unstoppable force, just like the virus.

 

[fskimospy]

The voters of Wisconsin didn't elect the legislature. The majority of voters rejected the Republican candidates but gerrymandering kept the Republicans in power anyway.

That is a very good point, I think considering the current situation you can't describe Wisconsin as a democracy anymore. From something I read recently the gerrymandering is so bad that Democrats would need to win the popular vote by something like 20% to get an even 50/50 split in the legislature. Basically Republicans there eliminated democracy.