cytg111
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Meanwhile in South Korea, one dude went into a night club............Really? Shoulda told these folks:
Meanwhile in South Korea, one dude went into a night club............Really? Shoulda told these folks:
That is a very good point, I think considering the current situation you can't describe Wisconsin as a democracy anymore. From something I read recently the gerrymandering is so bad that Democrats would need to win the popular vote by something like 20% to get an even 50/50 split in the legislature. Basically Republicans there eliminated democracy.
Nope however they can vote for the people who seat them and/or make laws.
Before it comes up I totally understand if filthy Wisconsin folks come to my State they’ll spread their deplorable disease
Land doesn't have voting rights? (Before a conservative posts an overwhelmingly red map of WI based on how counties voted while ignoring population.)
*sigh*.... my state again in the news.
The "best" part of the whole thing is that it basically went like this:
'We demand this be lifted!"
"Ok we lifted it for you"
"Well, wait... we're not ready for you to lift it yet!"
So it's not immediately lifted - it's in place until the 20th. The GOP "won" a total of 6 days (was supposed to be done on the 26th.
We're so fucking fucked.
On the bright side, We were getting close to hitting the metrics for a phased reopening. Things were going well and Evers's plan seemed sensible. Sure lockdown sucks, but now we're going to throw away a lot of what it bought us out of impatience.
This isn't impatience. It is a calculated political move on the part of Republicans to cast the negative outcomes of the virus as something the Dems are doing to people. This is part and parcel of the astroturf protests against Dem governors. The Republicans are perfectly willing to get their own voters killed as long as it advances their power.On the bright side, We were getting close to hitting the metrics for a phased reopening. Things were going well and Evers's plan seemed sensible. Sure lockdown sucks, but now we're going to throw away a lot of what it bought us out of impatience.
Also all this stuff about 'lockdown' is pretty misleading anyway. No one is actually locked down in the way that lots of other countries are doing it. It's basically just the closure of schools and entertainment venues.
I think the media has done us a great disservice by describing these mild measures as 'lockdowns', which makes them sound far more significant than they actually are.
I think it is impossible for one to overstate the importance of bars in Wisconsin. The only thing I can think of that might cause more social unrest than closing bars is cancelling football or hockey. If the Green and Gold is not on the field, the red will be in the streets by mid September. It's like mandating low fat ice cream.Also all this stuff about 'lockdown' is pretty misleading anyway. No one is actually locked down in the way that lots of other countries are doing it. It's basically just the closure of schools and entertainment venues.
I think the media has done us a great disservice by describing these mild measures as 'lockdowns', which makes them sound far more significant than they actually are.
This isn't impatience. It is a calculated political move on the part of Republicans to cast the negative outcomes of the virus as something the Dems are doing to people. This is part and parcel of the astroturf protests against Dem governors. The Republicans are perfectly willing to get their own voters killed as long as it advances their power.
I love Door County, I just wish I didn't have to travel through Wisconsin to get there*sigh*.... my state again in the news.
The "best" part of the whole thing is that it basically went like this:
'We demand this be lifted!"
"Ok we lifted it for you"
"Well, wait... we're not ready for you to lift it yet!"
So it's not immediately lifted - it's in place until the 20th. The GOP "won" a total of 6 days (was supposed to be done on the 26th.
We're so fucking fucked.
I think the most likely scenario for reopening is unfortunately the worst case scenario. Right when things start to reopen, there is going to be a big boom of very irresponsible people going out to celebrate their "freedom" (see Wisconsin). After this, the lack of widespread willingness to frequent these businesses will lead to insufficient customers to support the business, and it will likely be more expensive for them to open than to close. But since they are allowed to be open, people will stop pushing for economic relief for these businesses. At the same time, we are going to see huge spikes of cases across the country from the initial boom of people going out..I want to see the economy back up and running as much as anyone, but just re-opening businesses isn't going to bring the customers back. That won't happen until people feel safe.
It's going to be very sad to see 2-3 weeks of 'see, everything is fine!', to an explosion in cases, to 'how were we supposed to know?'I think the most likely scenario for reopening is unfortunately the worst case scenario. Right when things start to reopen, there is going to be a big boom of very irresponsible people going out to celebrate their "freedom" (see Wisconsin). After this, the lack of widespread willingness to frequent these businesses will lead to insufficient customers to support the business, and it will likely be more expensive for them to open than to close. But since they are allowed to be open, people will stop pushing for economic relief for these businesses. At the same time, we are going to see huge spikes of cases across the country from the initial boom of people going out..
Also all this stuff about 'lockdown' is pretty misleading anyway. No one is actually locked down in the way that lots of other countries are doing it. It's basically just the closure of schools and entertainment venues.
I think the media has done us a great disservice by describing these mild measures as 'lockdowns', which makes them sound far more significant than they actually are.
This isn't impatience. It is a calculated political move on the part of Republicans to cast the negative outcomes of the virus as something the Dems are doing to people. This is part and parcel of the astroturf protests against Dem governors. The Republicans are perfectly willing to get their own voters killed as long as it advances their power.
It's going to be very sad to see 2-3 weeks of 'see, everything is fine!', to an explosion in cases, to 'how were we supposed to know?'
*sigh*.... my state again in the news.
The "best" part of the whole thing is that it basically went like this:
'We demand this be lifted!"
"Ok we lifted it for you"
"Well, wait... we're not ready for you to lift it yet!"
So it's not immediately lifted - it's in place until the 20th. The GOP "won" a total of 6 days (was supposed to be done on the 26th.
We're so fucking fucked.
I am sure that idiot nurse's patients will be happy to see her...
How many degrees of electoral separation do we get before we can officially say that the voters didn't make this decision? 3? 5? 15?Nope however they can vote for the people who seat them and/or make laws.
Before it comes up I totally understand if filthy Wisconsin folks come to my State they’ll spread their deplorable disease
Also all this stuff about 'lockdown' is pretty misleading anyway. No one is actually locked down in the way that lots of other countries are doing it. It's basically just the closure of schools and entertainment venues.
I think the media has done us a great disservice by describing these mild measures as 'lockdowns', which makes them sound far more significant than they actually are.
I am sure that idiot nurse's patients will be happy to see her...
How many degrees of electoral separation do we get before we can officially say that the voters didn't make this decision? 3? 5? 15?
