Wisconsin starts online High Schools w/Poll

[mindmaniac]

I don't know how many states do this, but Wisconsin has this completely online public high school that any student in Wisconsin can enroll at. Online High School What I can't believe is that nothing in the diploma remotely says it was online instead it says you went to Waukesha public schools no matter how far you live from there. I wonder how many kids will drop out of their structured environments and into this just so they can lounge all day and get a free computer with an internet stipend? This is why taxes bug the crap out of me. Take another 15% out of my check so I can pay for some kid to get a free computer and while you're at it I'll pay for his internet. Wisconsin already has some of the best students in the US so why ruin it by letting them slack off at home.

I'm not saying that online colleges are like that, becuase those students want to learn but just don't have the time perhaps to attend a traditional university.

Come on, please tell me what you think.

 

[DainBramaged]

It's an interesting idea. I am surprised I haven't heard about it yet because I have school age brothers and sisters who live in Wisconsin.

It at least seems like it could be taken advantage of quite easily. Guess we'll find out.

 

[mindmaniac]

Well they can enroll no problem if they sign up by the 25th of February. I pray that parents are smart enough to put the axe in the idea though.

 

[TheNinja]

I don't know exactly how yet, but I'm willing to bet it has something to do with Brett Favre comtemplating retirement. Everything in Wisconson focuses around him.....everything :spooky

 

[Ronstang]

There is NO way an online education of any kind HS or College can compare the the real thing. This is just another example of the dumbing down of America. If you can't make the commitment necessary to traditional education then you don't deserve the benefits of said education. There are many more facets to an education then just the info in the book and the results of a test. Even traditional education is a joke in this country these days so that doesn't say much about online counterparts in my opinion. Anyone coming to me for a job with an online degree will be looking elsewhere.

 

[DainBramaged]

Originally posted by: Ronstang
There is NO way an online education of any kind HS or College can compare the the real thing. This is just another example of the dumbing down of America. If you can't make the commitment necessary to traditional education then you don't deserve the benefits of said education. There are many more facets to an education then just the info in the book and the results of a test. Even traditional education is a joke in this country these days so that doesn't say much about online counterparts in my opinion. Anyone coming to me for a job with an online degree will be looking elsewhere.

This could be a good alternative to pure homeschooling though. If the parents had the resources of the high school combined with them teaching/helping their child through it the idea might not be so bad.

 

[Ronstang]

Originally posted by: DainBramaged

Originally posted by: Ronstang
There is NO way an online education of any kind HS or College can compare the the real thing. This is just another example of the dumbing down of America. If you can't make the commitment necessary to traditional education then you don't deserve the benefits of said education. There are many more facets to an education then just the info in the book and the results of a test. Even traditional education is a joke in this country these days so that doesn't say much about online counterparts in my opinion. Anyone coming to me for a job with an online degree will be looking elsewhere.

This could be a good alternative to pure homeschooling though. If the parents had the resources of the high school combined with them teaching/helping their child through it the idea might not be so bad.

It is still bad. Homeschooling is a joke. Ask anyone in the teaching profession of the work it takes to undo the harm most parents do to their children when homeschooling them.

 

[DainBramaged]

Originally posted by: Ronstang

Originally posted by: DainBramaged

Originally posted by: Ronstang
There is NO way an online education of any kind HS or College can compare the the real thing. This is just another example of the dumbing down of America. If you can't make the commitment necessary to traditional education then you don't deserve the benefits of said education. There are many more facets to an education then just the info in the book and the results of a test. Even traditional education is a joke in this country these days so that doesn't say much about online counterparts in my opinion. Anyone coming to me for a job with an online degree will be looking elsewhere.

This could be a good alternative to pure homeschooling though. If the parents had the resources of the high school combined with them teaching/helping their child through it the idea might not be so bad.

It is still bad. Homeschooling is a joke. Ask anyone in the teaching profession of the work it takes to undo the harm most parents do to their children when homeschooling them.

I was homeschooled all my life and I have done perfectly well. 3.75 GPA in college, normal friends etc...

 

[Ronstang]

Originally posted by: DainBramaged

Originally posted by: Ronstang

Originally posted by: DainBramaged

Originally posted by: Ronstang
There is NO way an online education of any kind HS or College can compare the the real thing. This is just another example of the dumbing down of America. If you can't make the commitment necessary to traditional education then you don't deserve the benefits of said education. There are many more facets to an education then just the info in the book and the results of a test. Even traditional education is a joke in this country these days so that doesn't say much about online counterparts in my opinion. Anyone coming to me for a job with an online degree will be looking elsewhere.

This could be a good alternative to pure homeschooling though. If the parents had the resources of the high school combined with them teaching/helping their child through it the idea might not be so bad.

It is still bad. Homeschooling is a joke. Ask anyone in the teaching profession of the work it takes to undo the harm most parents do to their children when homeschooling them.

I was homeschooled all my life and I have done perfectly well. 3.75 GPA in college, normal friends etc...

As always there are exceptions, and you seem to be the one.

 

[DainBramaged]

Originally posted by: Ronstang

Originally posted by: DainBramaged

Originally posted by: Ronstang

Originally posted by: DainBramaged

Originally posted by: Ronstang
There is NO way an online education of any kind HS or College can compare the the real thing. This is just another example of the dumbing down of America. If you can't make the commitment necessary to traditional education then you don't deserve the benefits of said education. There are many more facets to an education then just the info in the book and the results of a test. Even traditional education is a joke in this country these days so that doesn't say much about online counterparts in my opinion. Anyone coming to me for a job with an online degree will be looking elsewhere.

This could be a good alternative to pure homeschooling though. If the parents had the resources of the high school combined with them teaching/helping their child through it the idea might not be so bad.

It is still bad. Homeschooling is a joke. Ask anyone in the teaching profession of the work it takes to undo the harm most parents do to their children when homeschooling them.

I was homeschooled all my life and I have done perfectly well. 3.75 GPA in college, normal friends etc...

As always there are exceptions, and you seem to be the one.

Well, you did say *most* parents instead of *all* parents so I guess I'll cut you a little slack this time...

 

[BigJ]

This is absolutely horrible. HS is a crucial part of development in a person's life. It's where a person starts becoming an individual and coming into their own. They start developing all sorts of traits and characteristics that will carry with them for the rest of their life.

Not to mention, how are they going to administer tests and the like? Honor system? HAH!

 

[Albis]

wtf is all i can say

 

[torpid]

HS is important for social learning. I don't think that the quality of education in the average high school is all that great, though. In Waukesha it might be... it's a relatively nice suburb. I learned MANY incorrect supposed historical "Facts" in high school. About 90% of my classes could easily have been taught just as well online. However, those 10%, which were also generally the best classes, could not.

I agree that this should not be allowed for everyone. However, I think it would be ok if they did one or two classes like this, or maybe once a week. And of course people with special needs should be able to do it full time.

 

[J Heartless Slick]

High school sucked
I wish they had this option when I was high school.

I could have finished in two years.

 

[bobbybe01]

Originally posted by: TheNinja
I don't know exactly how yet, but I'm willing to bet it has something to do with Brett Favre comtemplating retirement. Everything in Wisconson focuses around him.....everything :spooky

LOL

Your post just brought a smile to my face....spooky....

 

[bobbybe01]

Originally posted by: BigJ
This is absolutely horrible. HS is a crucial part of development in a person's life. It's where a person starts becoming an individual and coming into their own. They start developing all sorts of traits and characteristics that will carry with them for the rest of their life.

Not to mention, how are they going to administer tests and the like? Honor system? HAH!

I can see what you're saying but I would have to say that in the quest for "individuality" many people become just like the crowd. However there are some things ou will learn in a social high school setting that you wouldn't otherwise, and vice versa.

 

[FlyLice]

Originally posted by: Ronstang
There is NO way an online education of any kind HS or College can compare the the real thing. This is just another example of the dumbing down of America. If you can't make the commitment necessary to traditional education then you don't deserve the benefits of said education. There are many more facets to an education then just the info in the book and the results of a test. Even traditional education is a joke in this country these days so that doesn't say much about online counterparts in my opinion. Anyone coming to me for a job with an online degree will be looking elsewhere.

"Dumbing of America." Then how come Germany has 10% unemployement vs 5.6% US? Why does US have the 2nd highest per capita GDP? Education is overrated. I'll take dumber and more money, than "smarter" and live under elitism.

 

[nakedfrog]

Originally posted by: DainBramaged
I was homeschooled all my life and I have done perfectly well. 3.75 GPA in college, normal friends etc...

Anyone can see you're plainly DainBramaged

 

[HomeBrewerDude]

Originally posted by: mindmaniac
I don't know how many states do this, but Wisconsin has this completely online public high school that any student in Wisconsin can enroll at. Online High School What I can't believe is that nothing in the diploma remotely says it was online instead it says you went to Waukesha public schools no matter how far you live from there. I wonder how many kids will drop out of their structured environments and into this just so they can lounge all day and get a free computer with an internet stipend? This is why taxes bug the crap out of me. Take another 15% out of my check so I can pay for some kid to get a free computer and while you're at it I'll pay for his internet. Wisconsin already has some of the best students in the US so why ruin it by letting them slack off at home.

I'm not saying that online colleges are like that, becuase those students want to learn but just don't have the time perhaps to attend a traditional university.

Come on, please tell me what you think.

1) you have no evidence that the curriculum or grading is any less rigorous than in a brick and mortor school.

2) you have no evidence that the cost incurred in the iQ concept is significant or a drain on public resources

3) you seem to focus on presumed costs, but fail to recognize that there will be significant cost savings elsewhere

4) you seem hell bent on not liking the concept without researching the issue

Education will change drastically in the next 50 years and on-line degrees are fine with me as long as they represent rigorous academic achievement. I believe Wi is ranked 4th or 5th in the nation for student performance on standardized tests and Waukesha is a fine district with a lot of resources at its disposal. However, for many states, HS degrees are hardly worth the paper they are printed on.

 

[imported_Reck]

they have online classes in every state now...online classes aren't as easy as you think...

 

[Yax]

This could be pretty bad. I mean, how will the guys meet their highschool sweethearts now? Chatrooms?

 

[DainBramaged]

Originally posted by: nakedfrog

Originally posted by: DainBramaged
I was homeschooled all my life and I have done perfectly well. 3.75 GPA in college, normal friends etc...

Anyone can see you're plainly DainBramaged

:beer:

 

[elektrolokomotive]

"Dumbing of America." Then how come Germany has 10% unemployement vs 5.6% US? Why does US have the 2nd highest per capita GDP? Education is overrated. I'll take dumber and more money, than "smarter" and live under elitism.

Germany's unemployment problem stems from the unification effort. I would imagine that if we absorbed an economically bankrupt nation, as the East was, we would be having some serious unemployment problems as well.

I don't see how this has anything to do with education.

 

[Viper GTS]

Originally posted by: Ronstang

Originally posted by: DainBramaged

Originally posted by: Ronstang
There is NO way an online education of any kind HS or College can compare the the real thing. This is just another example of the dumbing down of America. If you can't make the commitment necessary to traditional education then you don't deserve the benefits of said education. There are many more facets to an education then just the info in the book and the results of a test. Even traditional education is a joke in this country these days so that doesn't say much about online counterparts in my opinion. Anyone coming to me for a job with an online degree will be looking elsewhere.

This could be a good alternative to pure homeschooling though. If the parents had the resources of the high school combined with them teaching/helping their child through it the idea might not be so bad.

It is still bad. Homeschooling is a joke. Ask anyone in the teaching profession of the work it takes to undo the harm most parents do to their children when homeschooling them.

Homeschooling CAN be a joke, but I would venture a guess that the majority of homeschooled children will perform above the average public school student (and likely well above).

My sister & I both had college degrees while still teenagers (AS at 15 for me, BS double major for my sister @ 19).

Home schoolers are actually subject to MORE stringent testing than public schools, in Oregon for example home schooled students are required to take standard state assessment tests every year (as opposed to every 2 or 3 in the public school system). In Oregon home schooled students consistently perform well above the state average.

My grandparents balked when my parents first pulled me from public schools, after the first year of testing they came around completely.

http://www.texashomeeducators.com/homeschoolingisitvalid.htm

Just a quick example I found, check out the studies section.

Bottom line is home schooled students score much higher with much lower "in class" time.

The only potentially valid argument for home vs public schooling is the "social development." This is what everyone falls back on when they can't argue it based on academics. No home schooling regimen is complete without proper social interaction. My brother & sister attended music & PE classes at what would have been their local elementary school. Oregon law allows home schooled students full access to such things, including field trips, music/gym, competitions, etc.

Do your research before you spout garbage on something you know nothing about.

Viper GTS

 

[torpid]

Though it is worth noting that social development goes both ways in high school. You learn some good things, but you also learn some bad things. High school isn't exactly the most friendly environment.