Wisconsin starts online High Schools w/Poll

[Viper GTS]

Originally posted by: BigJ
This is absolutely horrible. HS is a crucial part of development in a person's life. It's where a person starts becoming an individual and coming into their own. They start developing all sorts of traits and characteristics that will carry with them for the rest of their life.

Not to mention, how are they going to administer tests and the like? Honor system? HAH!

Great, more clueless people!

I was tested MORE OFTEN while home schooled than while public schooled (using standard state tests, at a state authorized testing facility).

The state of Oregon spends more each year on HS students than it would cost to send them to college. When I was 14-15 the high school that I would have attended (had I been enrolled) paid for me to go to a local college instead. They paid 100% of my tuition & 50% of books, & were still able to pocket several thousand every year to use however they wanted.

High school is a complete waste of time, anyone who believes otherwise is fooling themselves.

Viper GTS

 

[chrisms]

Originally posted by: Ronstang
There is NO way an online education of any kind HS or College can compare the the real thing. This is just another example of the dumbing down of America. If you can't make the commitment necessary to traditional education then you don't deserve the benefits of said education. There are many more facets to an education then just the info in the book and the results of a test. Even traditional education is a joke in this country these days so that doesn't say much about online counterparts in my opinion. Anyone coming to me for a job with an online degree will be looking elsewhere.

I'm taking an online community college class right now and I'd have to disagree. Because the school is so packed and they just pump kids out of there, the professors don't give a damn and going to class is really a waste of time. I'm learning more in the online class.

I can see an education that is completely online being worse, though. I just don't see anything bad about taking an online history class here or there.

 

[BigJelly]

Originally posted by: Viper GTS

Originally posted by: Ronstang

Originally posted by: DainBramaged

Originally posted by: Ronstang
There is NO way an online education of any kind HS or College can compare the the real thing. This is just another example of the dumbing down of America. If you can't make the commitment necessary to traditional education then you don't deserve the benefits of said education. There are many more facets to an education then just the info in the book and the results of a test. Even traditional education is a joke in this country these days so that doesn't say much about online counterparts in my opinion. Anyone coming to me for a job with an online degree will be looking elsewhere.

This could be a good alternative to pure homeschooling though. If the parents had the resources of the high school combined with them teaching/helping their child through it the idea might not be so bad.

It is still bad. Homeschooling is a joke. Ask anyone in the teaching profession of the work it takes to undo the harm most parents do to their children when homeschooling them.

Homeschooling CAN be a joke, but I would venture a guess that the majority of homeschooled children will perform above the average public school student (and likely well above).

My sister & I both had college degrees while still teenagers (AS at 15 for me, BS double major for my sister @ 19).

Home schoolers are actually subject to MORE stringent testing than public schools, in Oregon for example home schooled students are required to take standard state assessment tests every year (as opposed to every 2 or 3 in the public school system). In Oregon home schooled students consistently perform well above the state average.

My grandparents balked when my parents first pulled me from public schools, after the first year of testing they came around completely.

http://www.texashomeeducators.com/homeschoolingisitvalid.htm

Just a quick example I found, check out the studies section.

Bottom line is home schooled students score much higher with much lower "in class" time.

The only potentially valid argument for home vs public schooling is the "social development." This is what everyone falls back on when they can't argue it based on academics. No home schooling regimen is complete without proper social interaction. My brother & sister attended music & PE classes at what would have been their local elementary school. Oregon law allows home schooled students full access to such things, including field trips, music/gym, competitions, etc.

Do your research before you spout garbage on something you know nothing about.

Viper GTS

furthermore, if he knew about mps (milwaukee public schools) he would realize, you would learn more being on atot for 3 hours a day than 8 hours at a mps

 

[Viper GTS]

Originally posted by: BigJelly
furthermore, if he knew about mps (milwaukee public schools) he would realize, you would learn more being on atot for 3 hours a day than 8 hours at a mps

On a related note:

When I was in the 4th grade (middle of my public school stint) I was sick for nearly a month. Every day my mom picked up my lessons + homework & brought them home for me. I consistently did a full day's classwork + homework in 45 minutes.

The real problem with public schools isn't the teachers, or the curriculum, it's the classes. Entirely too much time is wasted dealing with the pack, very little actual learning happens.

Viper GTS

 

[SagaLore]

Originally posted by: Ronstang
There is NO way an online education of HS can compare the the real thing.

Yea, would be a bummer to miss out on being rejected from all of the clicks in school and having to sit at lunch by yourself, and having to sit through hours of lessons that are way below your intellectual level but you have to endure because you need to meet requirements. Then lets not forget the constant distraction of the opposite sex and peer pressure, and sex and drugs and name calling and etc.

There is nothing dumbing down in online education. There will be online schools that far exceed real schools, sitting in a classroom and sitting at a terminal has no impact on how well you are taught - the only drawback is having the organization and determination to sit at the computer to do the work.

 

[BigJelly]

Originally posted by: Viper GTS

Originally posted by: BigJelly
furthermore, if he knew about mps (milwaukee public schools) he would realize, you would learn more being on atot for 3 hours a day than 8 hours at a mps

On a related note:

When I was in the 4th grade (middle of my public school stint) I was sick for nearly a month. Every day my mom picked up my lessons + homework & brought them home for me. I consistently did a full day's classwork + homework in 45 minutes.

The real problem with public schools isn't the teachers, or the curriculum, it's the classes. Entirely too much time is wasted dealing with the pack, very little actual learning happens.

Viper GTS

basically it comes down to one of my hs teachers comment: the problem with teaching a group is that you have to help the weaker at the expense of the stronger. Thats why he is home schooling--yes a hs teacher at a public school feels home schooling is better than public schooling