Wisconsin court upholds voter ID law

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John Connor

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Irrelevant. The 24th Amendment made it illegal to require a fee or tax to vote for Federal elections, and Harper v. Virginia State Board of Elections extended that protection to all state elections. If the ID cards carried ANY cost, they could be viewed as a poll tax and deemed unconstitutional. Consequently, the state will have to foot the bill to provide them free of charge (which just means it gets pushed to the taxpayers, naturally).


Just make the ID free and pass the cost through licensee plates fees. Here in Colorado and several other states you have to show ID. I don't see wtf the problem is.
 

himkhan

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Who is more likely to have a job, own a vehicle, pay taxes, own property, take personal responsibility seriously,,,, democrats worried about their welfare checks and food tamps, or working middle class republicans?

Who is more likely to sleep with their sister, live in a trailer with a dish on the roof, be missing most of their teeth, play a banjo on a rocking chair, squeal like a pig,,,, republicans worried that their immediate gene pool will be watered down and diluted without at least on mongoloid walking the compound.
 

michal1980

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Who is more likely to sleep with their sister, live in a trailer with a dish on the roof, be missing most of their teeth, play a banjo on a rocking chair, squeal like a pig,,,, republicans worried that their immediate gene pool will be watered down and diluted without at least on mongoloid walking the compound.

who's a cute liberal bigot.
 

zinfamous

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Who is more likely to have a job, own a vehicle, pay taxes, own property, take personal responsibility seriously,,,, democrats worried about their welfare checks and food tamps, or working middle class republicans?

What about educated, highly-paid democrats, or unemployed NASCAR-watching Republicans, distracted by their sister's purty lips?

:hmm:
 

himkhan

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who's a cute liberal bigot.

LOL clearly satire is lost on you. Liberal? I belong to no party but any test I have taken to calculate political leaning says I am closer to a Libertarian than Liberal. Not the same thing you know? You know, right? Being anti Tea Party anti Right Wing Fervent Bible Thumper does not a liberal make. :hmm:
 

Moonbeam

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God, you're dumb.

Do you really think that all (or even most) Democrats are like that?


Open your eyes and get past your stereotypes. I know it's hard getting out of your little box, though.

In my opinion liberals have a brain defect that impels them to conclude that bigots like TH are stupid. That is not the case, at least generally, but the result of a CBD. TH can't see that he's a bigot because he bases his mortal superiority on his rationalized opinions. You are asking him to feel immoral and worthless by surrendering those opinions. But that is exactly the feeling he already feels and is trying to consciously avoid. We liberals can be quite the idiots about this, in my opinion, and we have been around the track on that before. He is not stupid, he is ego protective, and had to be to survive. You can see what a delusional he is. Imagine if you had to see that. You wouldn't want to either. Liberals are generally not so absurd because they don't have the same ego needs.
 
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Who is more likely to have a job, own a vehicle, pay taxes, own property, take personal responsibility seriously,,,, democrats worried about their welfare checks and food tamps, or working middle class republicans?

How do you deal with the headache when you create a 'thought' like the above. I mean, damn but that has to be painful.
 

Moonbeam

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How do you deal with the headache when you create a 'thought' like the above. I mean, damn but that has to be painful.

TH confuses caring for the least among us and the appreciation of those with little for identifying with and believing in all the negative things that can stifle self reliance. This would be like hating folk who pity TH for his bigotry, perhaps his children, because they would like to see his mentality improve and are therefore somehow enablers. But you can't expect him to see that.

The kind of place where TH might develop an appreciation for liberal capacity at mentation would be relying on the strategic flexible genius of a liberal general on the battle field. Liberals look different when they save your ass a few times.
 
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...And Democrats approved of slavery.

I just know assholes will be like, what? So here's a fucking history lesson. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Southern_Democrats

Good to see toothless hiker's dumber, younger brother has internet access now. Almost like incorruptible light.

Comparing the democrats of the south per your link to today's democratic party is mind numbingly stupid. It's like comparing the republican party of Eisenhower to today's republican party, but you couldn't be that ignorant, could you?
 

thraashman

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Good to see toothless hiker's dumber, younger brother has internet access now. Almost like incorruptible light.

Comparing the democrats of the south per your link to today's democratic party is mind numbingly stupid. It's like comparing the republican party of Eisenhower to today's republican party, but you couldn't be that ignorant, could you?

I prefer to use the analogy of using the Mongols of Genghis Khan as proof that Mongolia is an aggressive nation. Because the relevance is the same. No one argues that the democratic party of the 1800's and early 1900's was anti black. But the conservative ideology that was held by those racists is now the prevailing mentality of the Republican party, not the Democratic one. It's crazy how the Republicans are like "well 100 years ago those racists were voting democrat!!!" and I'm like, "true, but today they vote Republican and instead of the N word say 'thug'".


Edit: Also, speaking of Incorruptible, whatever happened to him? I've noticed a distinct lack of directionless rage lately.
 
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WHAMPOM

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...And Democrats approved of slavery.

I just know assholes will be like, what? So here's a fucking history lesson. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Southern_Democrats

Ya mean those Southern Racist Dixiecrats the Democratic party finally grew the balls to kick out and the Republican party welcomed with open arms?

Alright not really kicked out, just jumped ship like the rats they were and joined a power hungry political party that could stomach their racist agenda.
 

hal2kilo

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Thank you and the other 2 posters above.

He forgot to add that Sen. Robert Byrd was a member of the KKK jibe.
 
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If getting an ID is so hard, then we should be focused on making the process easier, particularly for older individuals. If this was the law for those under 65 or even 55, I don't see how this would be an issue. If you are an able-bodied American participating in the daily grind, I don't see how you would not have an ID. If you were a 95 year old on your death bed and have been fighting cancer for 5 years now, yeah I could see why you don't have your ID and would like to vote.

But honestly, the general population who's complaining, just get an ID already. Its not that they want to help the elderly or disabled get an ID. They're just whining about not taking personal responsibility.
 

fskimospy

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If getting an ID is so hard, then we should be focused on making the process easier, particularly for older individuals. If this was the law for those under 65 or even 55, I don't see how this would be an issue. If you are an able-bodied American participating in the daily grind, I don't see how you would not have an ID. If you were a 95 year old on your death bed and have been fighting cancer for 5 years now, yeah I could see why you don't have your ID and would like to vote.

But honestly, the general population who's complaining, just get an ID already. Its not that they want to help the elderly or disabled get an ID. They're just whining about not taking personal responsibility.

How about we just don't make irrational voting laws instead? Wouldn't that be much easier?
 
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If getting an ID is so hard, then we should be focused on making the process easier, particularly for older individuals. If this was the law for those under 65 or even 55, I don't see how this would be an issue. If you are an able-bodied American participating in the daily grind, I don't see how you would not have an ID. If you were a 95 year old on your death bed and have been fighting cancer for 5 years now, yeah I could see why you don't have your ID and would like to vote.

But honestly, the general population who's complaining, just get an ID already. Its not that they want to help the elderly or disabled get an ID. They're just whining about not taking personal responsibility.

And your thoughts on whether or not someone should have an ID is meaningless to the conversation. Clearly millions of Americans survive every day and to ripe old ages without having the ID that these new voting laws demand.

And the bolded. This attitude is what pisses me off on the pro ID crowd. I can work, pay taxes, do everything I need to do without the ID the restrictive voting laws demand but somehow I'm not responsible.
 
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And the bolded. This attitude is what pisses me off on the pro ID crowd. I can work, pay taxes, do everything I need to do without the ID the restrictive voting laws demand but somehow I'm not responsible.

No you are not. The responsible thing to do is increase taxes and fees on every hardworking American to catch the one vote in a million that might be improper.
 

soundforbjt

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No you are not. The responsible thing to do is increase taxes and fees on every hardworking American to catch the one vote in a million that might be improper.


This^^^, small government and less taxes, rules, & regulations, these ARE the repubs ideals, no? ooops...
 

lopri

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How about we just don't make irrational voting laws instead? Wouldn't that be much easier?
That would not make sense for those who keep making these laws, lol, since their goal is far from irrational (voter suppression) . Democracy is an inconvenience for these people.


One would have to be an ostrich to believe that in-person voter fraud is a problem. I mean, think about each step one would have to go through to cast multiple ballots under different names in different places in limited time. It just does not pay.

If one were to commit a "meaningful" fraud, it would be much easier to tamper with voting machines, stuffed box, or whatever technical failure that can provide plausible deniability for in case you get caught.
 

squarecut1

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Who is more likely to have a job, own a vehicle, pay taxes, own property, take personal responsibility seriously,,,, democrats worried about their welfare checks and food tamps, or working middle class republicans?
This right here is the reason the level of politics in this country is so juvenile, so full of ignorance and disgusting things. The politicians know their audience. This right here is the "masses".