Wisconsin court upholds voter ID law

[Texashiker]

Score for justice.

http://www.msnbc.com/msnbc/court-upholds-wisconsin-voter-id-law-scotus-mulls-case

Whether to allow Wisconsin’s strict voter ID law for this fall’s election is up to the Supreme Court – a decision that could come any day. But on Monday, an appeals court gave the law’s backers a big lift.

A three-judge panel of the 7th Circuit issued a ruling upholding the law. It was the same panel of all-Republican appointees that last month removed a district court judge’s injunction on the law, leading voting rights groups to ask the Supreme Court to intervene.

If someone is too lazy to get an ID, they do not need to be voting in the first place.

 

[MomentsofSanity]

Score for justice.

http://www.msnbc.com/msnbc/court-upholds-wisconsin-voter-id-law-scotus-mulls-case



If someone is too lazy to get an ID, they do not need to be voting in the first place.

Right. It's only laziness for every last person impacted.

 

[theeedude]

All Republican panel, going to be appealed.

 

[thraashman]

Based on numbers that even Republicans agree with, it is estimated that the voter id laws will stop approximately 1 fraudulent vote per 50k-250k legal voters is disenfranchises. Yeah, sure, justice is the word for that ... assuming you also would refer to letting a woman choose to be raped or murdered as "women's rights".

 

[inachu]

What if that 2,000 pound person is not able to travel to get one.

 

[Texashiker]

Based on numbers that even Republicans agree with, it is estimated that the voter id laws will stop approximately 1 fraudulent vote per 50k-250k legal voters is disenfranchises.

50k - 250k need to get their act together and get an id.

 

[Texashiker]

What if that 2,000 pound person is not able to travel to get one.

Take responsibility for actions.

That person would rather eat than vote. Deal with it.

 

[theeedude]

Republicans think they are so clever, but really they are just going to antagonize young people who live in apartments and move often, just when their political ideology is being formed. This will pay dividends to Democrats for a generation.

 

[dphantom]

Based on numbers that even Republicans agree with, it is estimated that the voter id laws will stop approximately 1 fraudulent vote per 50k-250k legal voters is disenfranchises. Yeah, sure, justice is the word for that ... assuming you also would refer to letting a woman choose to be raped or murdered as "women's rights".

I did a search but have not been able to find the study where it says that. Could you provide a link to it?

 

[Moonbeam]

What we have from Texashiker is an example of what it looks like to have a deep unconscious and unexamined belief that whatever absurd opinion he happens to hold, that opinion, based on nothing at all but random chance, is the absolute reality. This is how, without the slightest understanding of history or philosophy of law he can announce like an organ grinding monkey, that folk who don't have ID are lazy and as a consequence should not vote. It is this utter incapacity to look at ones inner motivations that gives rise in others not so infected, that what they see in folk like TH isn't a form of bigotry, but feeblemindedness. This is just another symptom of what often accompanies the CBD. I'll give you a dime if I don't get some sort of feebleminded-appearing rebuttal to this.

 

[thraashman]

I did a search but have not been able to find the study where it says that. Could you provide a link to it?

You actually have to do the math from multiple sources. It bases the number of cases of found voter fraud vs the estimation of people who would not be able to vote because of ID laws based on number of votes cast. I use the 50-250k numbers based on two different statistics I've found cited, the 50k was based on a number that Reince Priebus agreed was accurate. I basically gathered the information from multiple sources and did the stastical math myself.

 

[Thump553]

Republicans think they are so clever, but really they are just going to antagonize young people who live in apartments and move often, just when their political ideology is being formed. This will pay dividends to Democrats for a generation.

Not really. Perhaps they will talk and grumble but until a sufficient number of people become and stay politically active an active minority with existing control of the government will remain in control of the government,-at least until their is some sort of revolution. This has been proven over and over again throughout the world from Nazi Germany to the USSR.

Our forefathers did not fight to win freedom for us, they fought to win it for themselves. Every generation owes a duty to themselves and their children to fight for and preserve freedom.

It's a very sad day with the courts join in to help obstruct the right to vote on such a flimsy pretense.

 

[theeedude]

Not really. Perhaps they will talk and grumble but until a sufficient number of people become and stay politically active an active minority with existing control of the government will remain in control of the government,-at least until their is some sort of revolution. This has been proven over and over again throughout the world from Nazi Germany to the USSR.

Our forefathers did not fight to win freedom for us, they fought to win it for themselves. Every generation owes a duty to themselves and their children to fight for and preserve freedom.

It's a very sad day with the courts join in to help obstruct the right to vote on such a flimsy pretense.

A Republican run court is not a court, it's a joke.

 

[dphantom]

You actually have to do the math from multiple sources. It bases the number of cases of found voter fraud vs the estimation of people who would not be able to vote because of ID laws based on number of votes cast. I use the 50-250k numbers based on two different statistics I've found cited, the 50k was based on a number that Reince Priebus agreed was accurate. I basically gathered the information from multiple sources and did the stastical math myself.

Then it can only be your opinion. I make no assertion on your opinions validity but when you say "it is estimated" and then later say those are your numbers from undocumented sources, you have to understand I cannot accept the assertion as true until the source data is shown.

 

[Texashiker]

What we have from Texashiker is an example of what it looks like to have a deep unconscious and unexamined belief that whatever absurd opinion he happens to hold, that opinion, based on nothing at all but random chance, is the absolute reality.

It is ok moonie, I still love you.

I'll give you a dime if I don't get some sort of feebleminded-appearing rebuttal to this.

One of the big differences between democrats and republicans, and liberals and conservatives? Republicans and conservatives follow the law. We see following the law as our civic duty.

If the government says you need to do this, then I do this, or that, or whatever the government says I need to do.

A month after my wife and I moved I was down at the DMV office to get my drivers license updated. I was the third person in line that cold October morning.

Conservatives do what needs to be done to achieve a desired goal.

Liberals on the other hand whine and complain that the laws are wrong and how they are being oppressed. Liberals are oppressed by their own laziness. You want to vote? Get off your ass, get a state id and go vote.

The difference between you and I? I am willing to jump hurdles to do my civic duty. You on the other hand, are probably not even willing to go to the race, much less jump hurdles.

 

[fskimospy]

It is ok moonie, I still love you.

One of the big differences between democrats and republicans, and liberals and conservatives? Republicans and conservatives follow the law. We see following the law as our civic duty.

If the government says you need to do this, then I do this, or that, or whatever the government says I need to do.

A month after my wife and I moved I was down at the DMV office to get my drivers license updated. I was the third person in line that cold October morning.

Conservatives do what needs to be done to achieve a desired goal.

Liberals on the other hand whine and complain that the laws are wrong and how they are being oppressed. Liberals are oppressed by their own laziness. You want to vote? Get off your ass, get a state id and go vote.

The difference between you and I? I am willing to jump hurdles to do my civic duty. You on the other hand, are probably not even willing to go to the race, much less jump hurdles.

It seems more like conservatives are so terrified of losing elections that they concoct irrational laws to try and make sure only the "right" people vote. It's funny that the guy who whines about rights for everyone in other threads simply cannot wait to restrict the right of others to vote.

I guess intellectual consistency and rational thinking are liberal traits.

 

[ivwshane]

It is ok moonie, I still love you.




One of the big differences between democrats and republicans, and liberals and conservatives? Republicans and conservatives follow the law. We see following the law as our civic duty.

If the government says you need to do this, then I do this, or that, or whatever the government says I need to do.

A month after my wife and I moved I was down at the DMV office to get my drivers license updated. I was the third person in line that cold October morning.

Conservatives do what needs to be done to achieve a desired goal.

Liberals on the other hand whine and complain that the laws are wrong and how they are being oppressed. Liberals are oppressed by their own laziness. You want to vote? Get off your ass, get a state id and go vote.

The difference between you and I? I am willing to jump hurdles to do my civic duty. You on the other hand, are probably not even willing to go to the race, much less jump hurdles.

You are one stupid mother fucker! I can only hope that one day when you go to vote that you have a ton of hurdles to overcome and it's because of democrat policies and when you come complaining we will all laugh at you and call you lazy and not worthy of being allowed to vote.


Your cluelessness on just about every subject you talk about with every opinion you have being based solely on your own personal experience. You seem completely incapable of seeing any perspective of an issue but your own.

 

[Texashiker]

It seems more like conservatives are so terrified of losing elections that they concoct irrational laws to try and make sure only the "right" people vote. It's funny that the guy who whines about rights for everyone in other threads simply cannot wait to restrict the right of others to vote.

I guess intellectual consistency and rational thinking are liberal traits.

Laziness is a liberal trait.

Voting is a civic duty. To lazy to get an id? Then you probably do not need to be voting to start with.

You are one stupid mother fucker! I can only hope that one day when you go to vote that you have a ton of hurdles to overcome and it's because of democrat policies and when you come complaining we will all laugh at you and call you lazy and not worthy of being allowed to vote.

Want to vote?

Get an id.
Do not become a felon.
Be a resident.
Be above a certain age.

None of those restrictions are excessive.

 

[fskimospy]

Laziness is a liberal trait.

Voting is a civic duty. To lazy to get an id? Then you probably do not need to be voting to start with.

Haha, just as Moonie foretold when you're confronted by your own irrationality and stupidity you just keep plowing ahead.

You should go take some lessons from liberals, it seems you badly need them. Maybe all your liberal hate is just envy.

 

[z1ggy]

This doesn't bug me either way. Most of the time, voting on a large scale event is generally the choice between a turd sandwich and a giant douche. I might vote for town mayor but that's about it.

 

[xBiffx]

I'll bet the SC dodges this one. Another safe non opinion.

 

[Texashiker]

You should go take some lessons from liberals, it seems you badly need them. Maybe all your liberal hate is just envy.

What lesson is that?

Rather than follow the law sue the government on every law you disagree with?

Maybe not that you disagree with the law, maybe you are just too lazy to get an id? So liberals would rather bog down the courts with lawsuits than follow the law?

 

[nageov3t]

solution for a problem that doesn't exist.

but I don't see how requiring an ID poses an undue hardship on anyone, especially when it's already required to buy alcohol, cigarettes, get on a plane, visit some government tourist sites, etc.

 

[tracerbullet]

I always found it ironic that the political party that claims to be in favor of smaller government and eschews wasteful spending is the same party using up time and money to implement laws to solve a problem that doesn't really exist.

 

[Atomic Playboy]

One of the big differences between democrats and republicans, and liberals and conservatives? Republicans and conservatives follow the law. We see following the law as our civic duty.

If the government says you need to do this, then I do this, or that, or whatever the government says I need to do.

Conservatives do what needs to be done to achieve a desired goal.

Liberals on the other hand whine and complain that the laws are wrong and how they are being oppressed. Liberals are oppressed by their own laziness. You want to vote? Get off your ass, get a state id and go vote.

The difference between you and I? I am willing to jump hurdles to do my civic duty. You on the other hand, are probably not even willing to go to the race, much less jump hurdles.

So you're done complaining about child support, abortion and gay marriage then, yes? I mean, they're the law, and complaining about the law is something liberals do, right? Not you.