Windows XP SP2 Beta Includes Built-in Virus Scanner

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ggavinmoss

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Originally posted by: Tabb
I've always felt that Microsoft should have incorporated some sort of Anti-Virus program in their OS. Everyone seems very quick to judge MS.

That's because all the crybabies have actually written their own operating systems that the entire hacking underworld has failed to penetrate. ;)

-geoff
 

AFB

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Originally posted by: Gibson486
i dont think it is a bad idea. I dont get why people bash MS anymore. Seriously, over 1 million people use their OS. HOw do you expect them to make it bullet proof? If over 1 million people used Linux, it would be the same exact way.

You make no sense, Users has no relation to security.
 

WobbleWobble

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Originally posted by: amdfanboy
Originally posted by: Gibson486
i dont think it is a bad idea. I dont get why people bash MS anymore. Seriously, over 1 million people use their OS. HOw do you expect them to make it bullet proof? If over 1 million people used Linux, it would be the same exact way.

You make no sense, Users has no relation to security.

It makes sense to me. He's asking how do you make a bullet proof OS when you have millions of different people using it? Comparing to Linux, Linux doesn't have as many viruses and exploits because attackers don't target Linux as much because it doesn't have as large of a user base.
 

RU482

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Originally posted by: TommyVercetti
First Microsoft destryoed the Solitaire industry, then the screen resolution setting utility industry, and now the AV industry? WHERE DOES IT STOP?

OMGF, I about shitmyself when I read that...thanks!! :)
 

MrBond

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Originally posted by: amdfanboy

You make no sense, Users has no relation to security.
Sure it does. If I make an OS that has 10 security holes, but only one person uses it, those 10 holes may never be discovered or exploited.

But if I roll out that same OS to 100,000 users, someone, somewhere is going to exploit at least one of those security holes.

Fun fact: Last January there were nearly seven times more successful attacks on Linux servers than on Windows servers

Source: http://www.zdnet.com.au/news/software/0,2000061733,39116229,00.htm

 

WobbleWobble

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Originally posted by: prvteye2003
so, when is sp2 gonna be available?

Mid-2004

The RC (release candidate) build was just released today, so it should be soon. This RC build could be the official release version. Which actually has me scratching my head, if SP2 is already in its RC build, I would consider it too late to add an antivirus scanner. Unless today's released RC build already has it, I'll let you know when I get home from work and install it :)
 

slycat

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shoot...they're wrong..dumbasses.
its not gonna come with a virus scanner ...just checks and warns u that your system does NOT have one and
to go get one...basically a security checker.
built-in pop-up blocker for IE though...and a new enhanced, stronger firewall.
 

GreenGhost

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The idea it's going to be bad because it's from Microsoft is ridiculous. Netscape, anyone? Firefox? Sure, would you pay for it? If I were in a company that develops antivirus software, I'd be worried. If there's already one out there for free, why bother to pay for a better one? These programs either work or don't work. It's not like a movie editor where you get added benefits by paying premium price for sophisticated software. If it catches most viruses, fine.
 

ElFenix

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Originally posted by: WobbleWobble
I doubt Microsoft would make their own scanner. As slycat mentioned, it's probably a 3rd party deal. Just like how the Win2K/XP defrag program is a lite version of Diskeeper and the XP burning software is from Roxio.

Yet both companies still release their premium versions of the software, so it's no problem.

it makes sense from ms for a couple reasons. since, unlike some companies, ms doesn't suffer from "not developed here" syndrome *cough*intel*cough*, there is no need to reinvent the wheel. plus, if they are licensing it from someone else, it may combat the anti-trust charges as well
 

ViRGE

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Originally posted by: GoodToGo
Ladies and Gentlemen, here We have Microsoft that has so many holes in their software that it would put swiss cheese to shame. And now they plan to put Anti Virus software in their OS? Oh boy imagine the irony when someone hacks through it or uses some unknown vulnerability in it and it corrupts/infects the whole system. Yay for Microsoft!
As opposed to what? The lack of security currently in Windows? This can only improve things.
 

GoSharks

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Originally posted by: TheBoyBlunder
Microsoft making an anti-virus scanner is a good idea like Ralph Nader's run for the presidency is a good idea. It just won't work.

do you honestly think that nader himself thinks that he has a chance? i dont think so - he's running more on the basis to spread his views and hope that one day the mainstream candidates/voters support some of the things he stands for.

similar thing to what MS is doing... kinda
 

bsobel

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Guys, the article is wrong. The author appears to have confused the AES feature with MS providing their own AV. They are not (at least in SP2) unless something drastically changes very quickly (and this beta build was not that change)

Bill