Windows 8 Sucks

[dagamer34]

Do people not read forum rules about Windows 8 crapping? -_-

 

[lxskllr]

Do people not read forum rules about Windows 8 crapping? -_-

Not applicable to the OP. The rules are to prevent someone asking for help regarding Win8, and people posting in the thread to merely bitch about Win8 without providing on topic technical help. A thread started as an opinion piece is fair game either way.

 

[imagoon]

Do people not read forum rules about Windows 8 crapping? -_-

Wait, this is a Windows 8 post? I thought we were diagnosing 2k3 > 2TB disk issues

 

[Zaap]

Opinions are all we have. The only relevant question is did they make an OS with Metro that garners an overwhelming acceptance or an overwhelming rejection (of opinion).

Yeah, I thought tech forums were just for slavishly praising products of big corporations; just one big endless circle-jerk of "Oh it's sooo great!" "Ohh I love it!" "Ohh it's sooooo wonderful" not actually discussing the merits (both good AND BAD) about tech-related products.

Because blind loyalty with no mention of negatives if of course what always drives technology forward.

 

[Nothinman]

Yeah, I thought tech forums were just for slavishly praising products of big corporations; just one big endless circle-jerk of "Oh it's sooo great!" "Ohh I love it!" "Ohh it's sooooo wonderful" not actually discussing the merits (both good AND BAD) about tech-related products.

Because blind loyalty with no mention of negatives if of course what always drives technology forward.

It's not about silencing negative comments, but expressing them with some sort of substance. Screaming "WAAAAH X SUCKS!" just makes you look like a petulant child, while "I really don't like this because it does X when I think it should do Y." is something an adult would write and allows room for a real conversation about the changes.

 

[Zaap]

It's not about silencing negative comments, but expressing them with some sort of substance. Screaming "WAAAAH X SUCKS!" just makes you look like a petulant child, while "I really don't like this because it does X when I think it should do Y." is something an adult would write and allows room for a real conversation about the changes.

People have stated what they dislike about Windows 8 and why they think it sucks.

It's the shills that have nothing of substance to add, other than the usual "Oh you just hate change!" "Oh you need to learn how to use it!" "Oh you need to make it into a half-assed version of what actually does work, then it's great." etc. etc.

That's not exactly real conversation.

Face it, products that don't suck don't need to put people on the defensive the way Windows 8 does. I've never seen anyone get all butt-hurt over anyone's criticisms of an OS that doesn't suck, like say, Windows 7. It simply doesn't need all the overly defensive nonsense, it stands on it's own as a great OS. It's telling that Win8 doesn't.

 

[ViRGE]

I'm going to leave this thread open for now, but if it's to stay open more substance needs to develop. As it stands it's largely 32 posts of empty calories.

-ViRGE

 

[Nothinman]

People have stated what they dislike about Windows 8 and why they think it sucks.

It's the shills that have nothing of substance to add, other than the usual "Oh you just hate change!" "Oh you need to learn how to use it!" "Oh you need to make it into a half-assed version of what actually does work, then it's great." etc. etc.

That's not exactly real conversation.

Face it, products that don't suck don't need to put people on the defensive the way Windows 8 does. I've never seen anyone get all butt-hurt over anyone's criticisms of an OS that doesn't suck, like say, Windows 7. It simply doesn't need all the overly defensive nonsense, it stands on it's own as a great OS. It's telling that Win8 doesn't.

Not in this thread they haven't. The OP simply said "Nothing uninstalls or updates after you have gone to Win 8" which is obviously not true. Or do you think that's a valid complaint?

All I've really seen people say is that they hate the lack of start button which isn't any news. Virtually every thread says that same thing and then gets a few replies with 3rd party start menus and a few "Just learn the new interface" which are both valid responses. MS doesn't generally undo big changes like that so it's most likely that the start menu isn't coming back and clinging to it instead of learning the new interface will just cause you more problems in the long run. Win7 also had the luck of being released after Vista which had a similar outcry of badness, so relatively it looked awesome and thus drew less criticism.

Products that don't suck frequently get bad reviews and complaints from people that are too stupid or lazy to learn how to use them properly. Sometimes those unwarranted complaints do cause them to fail, however I highly doubt Windows is in that category.

 

[Zaap]

Not in this thread they haven't. The OP simply said "Nothing uninstalls or updates after you have gone to Win 8" which is obviously not true. Or do you think that's a valid complaint?

I don't know, why didn't you ask him what he meant rather than just offer the usual unhelpful smarminess? He also said Win8 adds nothing useful for him, which is a valid statement for anyone that values decent UI design that's up to date.

All I've really seen people say is that they hate the lack of start button which isn't any news.

Which just proves right there that you're not listening and just have an axe to grind. You're not exactly one to talk about adding anything helpful, because you haven't. Give it a rest already.

 

[Maximilian]

People have stated what they dislike about Windows 8 and why they think it sucks.

It's the shills that have nothing of substance to add, other than the usual "Oh you just hate change!" "Oh you need to learn how to use it!" "Oh you need to make it into a half-assed version of what actually does work, then it's great." etc. etc.

That's not exactly real conversation.

Face it, products that don't suck don't need to put people on the defensive the way Windows 8 does. I've never seen anyone get all butt-hurt over anyone's criticisms of an OS that doesn't suck, like say, Windows 7. It simply doesn't need all the overly defensive nonsense, it stands on it's own as a great OS. It's telling that Win8 doesn't.

QFT

The whole people on here hating change thing is ridiculous anyways, folks that find themselves on anandtech forums are likely to be the least resistant to change, many in fact enjoy change when its for the better.

Windows 8 on the desktop is trash. Its only purpose is to use windows dominant position on the desktop/laptop market to push MS's tablets and phones into the spotlight because without that push their mobile efforts will end up dead in the water like their MP3 player efforts and countless other markets they have been years late to. Sad thing is their mobile efforts will likely still end up dead in the water because iOS and android got there first a long time ago.

 

[paul878]

I upgraded to Win 8 from 7 and found it to suck. Nothing uninstalls or updates after you have gone to Win 8. I wish I never upgraded and as Win 7 was working just fine I wish I would have stayed with it. Win 8 does nothing for me at this time.

Try it on a Tablet, I think it will be better.
Yes, Win 8 really sucks on a Regular computer.

 

[cbrunny]

Yes, Win 8 really sucks on a Regular computer.

For what it's worth, I quite like Win 8 on my desktop.

 

[ControlD]

For what it's worth, I quite like Win 8 on my desktop.

Me too. I don't see what all the fuss is about. I still think Windows 7 is the single best desktop OS I have used, but Windows 8 is a close second. I guess that is saying something though if the new OS seems a little less than the old one.

 

[showb1z]

Face it, products that don't suck don't need to put people on the defensive the way Windows 8 does. I've never seen anyone get all butt-hurt over anyone's criticisms of an OS that doesn't suck, like say, Windows 7. It simply doesn't need all the overly defensive nonsense, it stands on it's own as a great OS. It's telling that Win8 doesn't.

Most of the criticism I've read is people using it for 15 minutes, not knowing how it works yet and crying about it. Or prejudice, that's another big one.

Personally 99.95% of my time is spent in desktop, there are days I forget metro is even there.
Since desktop = windows 7 and if windows 7 = good then 99.95% of win8 <> trash.
Metro may not be made for desktops, but it's just a tiny part of the entire OS. Trashing the whole OS cause of the start screen you don't even have to see or use seems just way out of proportion to me.
Saying ms are idiots for forcing this on people is another thing of course.
Just another opinion for the pile.

 

[nerp]

A lot of the whining comes from sysadmins and people who work on computers who hate having to figure out new ways to open the control panel or clear saved wireless networks. Boo hoo. And never go into car repair.

 

[Nothinman]

I don't know, why didn't you ask him what he meant rather than just offer the usual unhelpful smarminess? He also said Win8 adds nothing useful for him, which is a valid statement for anyone that values decent UI design that's up to date.


Which just proves right there that you're not listening and just have an axe to grind. You're not exactly one to talk about adding anything helpful, because you haven't. Give it a rest already.

The issues he alluded to aren't a real Win8 problem, do you really think you can't uninstall things from Win8? At best he's got a botched upgrade which has possibly just migrated problems from his Win7 install.

On top of that, since he's talking about an upgrade he made the decision to go out and buy Win8 instead of getting it with a new PC. Which means that he either didn't do any research before buying it. People may think that they're entitled to everything exactly how they want it, but that's not how the real world works and caveat emptor applies to software just as much, if not more, than physical items.

 

[Mem]

Yeah, I thought tech forums were just for slavishly praising products of big corporations; just one big endless circle-jerk of "Oh it's sooo great!" "Ohh I love it!" "Ohh it's sooooo wonderful" not actually discussing the merits (both good AND BAD) about tech-related products.

Because blind loyalty with no mention of negatives if of course what always drives technology forward.

Problem is if you like something like Win8 like I do then you get called a Win8 fan,I also like Vista,Win7,Linux,Android tablets etc so where does that leave me?...end of the day no OS is perfect and I could also say about some cons with regards to Win7,Vista etc like using basically same old UI from Win95 days but still good operating systems,Win7 also did not add anything really new from Vista apart from speed improvements(not surprising since it was based on Vista anyway),at least Win7 to Win8 is a bigger improvement especially in features then Vista to Win7 ever was.

I admire Microsoft for changing UI to something new and different in Win8 it may not be perfect(I'll be the first to say they could of made it a lot better) or to everybodys liking, lets be honest here nothing is perfect in any OS and you will always get people hating one thing or another on any OS, samething will happen with Win9,10 etc...

Metro seems to have a lot of hate from anti-8 people,lets be honest here you can avoid Metro for the most part as a desktop user(I consider myself and desktop/gamer user) ,the fact is Win8 can be use with no issues with mouse and keyboard,I don't even own a touchscreen and have no intention of getting one(happy with my Android tablet for that).

I also wonder why he made this thread with no facts?...personally if I had something that sucks it would not even be worth a thread title lol....I would just use something else or wait for Win9,now was that hard?..

Maybe he should of tried Win8 before upgrading or done some research etc...?....again his post was so poor we don't know how he came to that conclusion.

End of the day plenty of users that like Win8 regardless of anti-8 people here,I can understand those that don't like Win8 or any OS but at the same time you have to except there are plenty of people that do like Win8.

Reason why I like it well do you need a list?...very customizable,rock stable, fine with with all my games( some go back to Baldur Gate's days),fast,all my general software works,improved security,I like the new Task Manager,Reset,Refresh is a nice added feature too,system wide search ,I could go on but you get my point.

Metro I'm neutral on but can see it being improved in Win9 for sure(don't think Microsoft will drop it however).

What I don't like well I think they could make Metro tiles/Columns better looking,options to boot straight to desktop rather then doing it via keyboard or Metro tile(without using third party mods especially since I don't use them),however its only one second click at most to get there.

I think they could improve AV give it more options,I understand it was made basic and you can always go with a third party AV,right click option to scan on a file would be nice,I know it has real time scan anyway.


I don't know about you guys but if I see or use something that sucks I just avoid it and use something else,its not even worth my time for a title thread(especially when we all like different things apples and oranges etc..),however if somebody posted the Pro's and Con's in a constructive manner then that is well worth my time reading.

Anyway I look forward to using Win9 down the road ,probably be called a Win9 fan now lol....

 

[zCypher]

I was just as pissed about the Start menu being killed as everyone else, but that hasn't stopped me from customizing the OS like I always do. It's still the best OS to have, even if I hate the fact that MS yanked start without even giving an option to keep it.

Damn them for not letting us uninstall or update anything! rawh!!

 

[blankslate]

What I don't understand is why MS didn't allow people to choose between a W7 like interface and the Metro interface?

Why just force people to boot up into Metro by default when more good will for the OS with its solid under the hood improvements would have been garnered if people had the option to use a familiar interface while they got used to the new one.

 

[poohbear]

What I don't understand is why MS didn't allow people to choose between a W7 like interface and the Metro interface?

Why just force people to boot up into Metro by default when more good will for the OS with its solid under the hood improvements would have been garnered if people had the option to use a familiar interface while they got used to the new one.

Complacency & laziness really. There's no excuse, especially when they're talking about why people didnt switch over....they made an OS for touch based platforms, & they're wondering why desktop & laptop ppl didnt switch over??

 

[Nothinman]

Complacency & laziness really. There's no excuse, especially when they're talking about why people didnt switch over....they made an OS for touch based platforms, & they're wondering why desktop & laptop ppl didnt switch over??

Doubtful, someone made the conscious decision of which should be the starting point upon bootup. They're trying to push the ecosystem they're attempting to create by dumping you right into the Metro environment filled with the live tiles they want you becoming accustomed to interacting with as quickly as possible. They care more about pushing this new brand than they do capitulating to a few squeaky wheels that will eventually quiet down and learn to live with it.

And right they are to do it that way.

 

[Staples]

Works fine for me but I must admit I bought Start8.

But I had to fresh install. I did an upgrade and things didn't work.

 

[Remobz]

Works fine for me but I must admit I bought Start8.

But I had to fresh install. I did an upgrade and things didn't work.

I downloaded a free program like Start8 to make it bearable, otherwise I hate the new interface and metro.

 

[haybaler.ohio]

just saying!!! i am over 50 not really wanting to learn a bunch of new crap and the pointer just quite so the POS is going back to BB tomorrow and getting 7 (hopefully)! it may be a great thing but i just want the SOB to work. i do not care if it is the the latest and greatest anymore, just work. app this, store that who gives a flying rats ***.

 

[capeconsultant]

What I don't understand is why MS didn't allow people to choose between a W7 like interface and the Metro interface?

Why just force people to boot up into Metro by default when more good will for the OS with its solid under the hood improvements would have been garnered if people had the option to use a familiar interface while they got used to the new one.

My thoughts precisely. Lube us up and then we might enjoy change