Windows 7 pre-order pricing (Full versions: Premium £/?49.99, Pro £/?99.99)

[iluvdeal]

Originally posted by: dighn
remote desktop is a lot better. yes I've used both extensively. but VNC is fine for lighter use. after much consideration I went with Home Premium.

I'm curious, what benefits does it offer over VNC?

 

[kylebisme]

I've never used an upgrade version of an OS before. When using one, do you have to have the previous version installed first, or can you just install it to a clean drive and let it check your DVD and code, and will it need to check the old DVD and code every time I reinstall the new OS?

 

[ElFenix]

Originally posted by: kylebisme
I've never used an upgrade version of an OS before. When using one, do you have to have the previous version installed first, or can you just install it to a clean drive and let it check your DVD and code, and will it need to check the old DVD and code every time I reinstall the new OS?

'upgrade' versions of windows used to just ask for the CD or key. i think initially the 'upgrade' version of vista was required to be run from the windows environ until everyone got pissed at MS for such a stupid idea.

 

[dawp]

I think I'll pass on the upgrade since I don't have a valid XP or Vista lisence (been using linux for about 5 years on my system and used my xp on my sons sys). I'd have to by then install vista and then upgrade to 7. And with as often as I redo my computer, I really dont want to have to install an OS twice every time I decide to wipe my drive, so IF i decide to go to win7, using rc1 ATM, I think I'll get an OEM when it's released.

 

[kylebisme]

So you do have to install an OS twice every time you wipe the drive with an upgrade version?

 

[Stas]

Not since Windows 98, i believe. Upgrade is the same full version that asks you for CD/key of the old version during install to verify the possesion. (WinXP Upgrade, for example, just asks for a CD - burn a copy of Win 98 CD for that purpose )

 

[Athena]

Originally posted by: bullbert
You are still missing the mark. First off (AND lastly), they should offer EVERYONE, the price of $15 USD for a FULL install Ultimate version. No upgrade versions, no OEM versions, no crippled Home Basic versions, just ONE version to support. Their internal memos already state that MS could do this and still make a healthy profit.

So...do you have a citation or for these internal memos that show that Microsoft could profitably develop, market, and support Windows at $15/copy?

 

[mshan]

"Their internal memos already state that MS could do this and still make a healthy profit."

Yeah, but then they wouldn't be a monopoly anymore!

 

[imaheadcase]

Originally posted by: JLee

Originally posted by: imaheadcase
Wait for OEM version, it will the same price as this "sale" now. Plus don't have to worry about "upgrade" version

Source?

Don't need a source, because that is how it was with Vista and XP with OEM.

 

[imaheadcase]

Originally posted by: ivan2

Originally posted by: imaheadcase
Wait for OEM version, it will the same price as this "sale" now. Plus don't have to worry about "upgrade" version

with OEM you are locked to either 32 or 64 bit, plus fat chance that OEM too cost less than $50

Yah so? Most people are going 64bit anyways. OEM is full version so no need for other OS.

 

[imported_MRMIKE2U]

Has anyone been to microcenter and picked up a coupon yet are they still passing them out says today last day but also says can end at any day or hour?

 

[hondaf17]

Originally posted by: MRMIKE2U
Has anyone been to microcenter and picked up a coupon yet are they still passing them out says today last day but also says can end at any day or hour?

I picked up my "coupon" on Friday. There isn't actually a physical stack of coupons. You just go to the checkout counter, give them your name and address, and they print you a receipt. The receipt acts as your coupon. Call them up and ask them.

 

[hondaf17]

Originally posted by: jjmIII
I'm amazed at the confusion here.....ANY XP or Vista can be "upgraded" to Win7.

It does NOT matter if your running NFR, OEM, or whatever.......if it's a legal running copy, ANY XP or Vista can use the upgrade $50 disk!!!!!!!

The question is whether or not your previous version had to be installed on your system before upgrading to W7. Now recent posts say it'll just ask for a valid XP/Vista key, even if we're doing a clean install.

 

[OCNewbie]

Originally posted by: jjmIII
I'm amazed at the confusion here.....ANY XP or Vista can be "upgraded" to Win7.

It does NOT matter if your running NFR, OEM, or whatever.......if it's a legal running copy, ANY XP or Vista can use the upgrade $50 disk!!!!!!!

My version of WinXP is home upgrade. Can I upgrade from another upgrade? From the above quote I would think I can, but my prior knowledge would tell me I cannot.

 

[1Cheap2Crazy]

Thanks OP. I got mine from Newegg w/free shipping.

I have NFR XP Pro and Vista Ultimate 32 and 64 bit.

Now my questions: If I do a clean install of Windows 7 on a new hard drive with the upgrade DVD/CD, do I have to first install XP or Vista? If so, that will add about 2 hours more .
Will upgrading invalidate my XP or Vista license?

Thanks

 

[edm]

Originally posted by: 1Cheap2Crazy

Will upgrading invalidate my XP or Vista license?

I was wondering this too. If it's going to invalidate my xp pro license, which I spend $199 on, I might just hold off for the oem version.

Thanks

 

[dighn]

Originally posted by: iluvdeal

Originally posted by: dighn
remote desktop is a lot better. yes I've used both extensively. but VNC is fine for lighter use. after much consideration I went with Home Premium.

I'm curious, what benefits does it offer over VNC?

I find RDP to be significantly more responsive than something like TightVNC. This is noticeable over a LAN and even more so over the internet. With RDP the responsiveness and general behavior (e.g. selection/drawing of controls) approach those of local access. Personally I found TightVNC to be annoyingly laggy even over a LAN. RDP also has more seamless sharing of local resources (drives, printers, sound).

Of course if you don't have to use it a lot, these advantages are not so important, which is why I'm not paying for RDP for home usage. But for heavy-duty remote access, RDP can be a lot more efficient and less aggravating.

 

[gorobei]

Originally posted by: MRMIKE2U
Has anyone been to microcenter and picked up a coupon yet are they still passing them out says today last day but also says can end at any day or hour?

got the coupon today sun 1pm SV/santa clara branch. didn't have the MC membership so i had to sign up in the store. got a free 4gb sd mem. the nice part is you dont get charged now, just pay when it arrives.

print out the jambajuice coupon in the free stuff section and get BOGO smoothies at the same shopping center location.

win7 upgrade is only really worth it to me at their $40 price.

 

[erwos]

Yeah, I also did the Microcenter upgrade thing. I rather like the Win 7 beta, so why not?

 

[bigsnyder]

One trick that I have read about (this worked with XP anyway) is as long as there is a "swap file" on the drive, upgrade versions will install on a clean drive. Supposedly making a text file and naming pagefile.sys or whatever XP names it will do the trick without actually having the original swapfile. Whether this will be required for Windows 7 is another story, but something to try if there is problems with a clean install.

 

[ElFenix]

Originally posted by: bigsnyder
One trick that I have read about (this worked with XP anyway) is as long as there is a "swap file" on the drive, upgrade versions will install on a clean drive. Supposedly making a text file and naming pagefile.sys or whatever XP names it will do the trick without actually having the original swapfile. Whether this will be required for Windows 7 is another story, but something to try if there is problems with a clean install.

XP upgrade would work on a blank drive with no files or filesystem on it whatsoever, iirc

 

[cbn]

What is the difference between Windows 7 Home Premium and Windows 7 Professional?

What is the maximum amount of ram each could handle as a 64 bit version? (I know Vista Home 64 bit home premium can handle 16 GB)

 

[gorcorps]

Can I install this upgrade version over XP if I don't have the XP disc? My lappy has it's genuine copy of XP on it, but it came with no physical OS disc.

 

[balloonshark]

Originally posted by: Just learning
What is the difference between Windows 7 Home Premium and Windows 7 Professional?

What is the maximum amount of ram each could handle as a 64 bit version? (I know Vista Home 64 bit home premium can handle 16 GB)

Here ya go. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Windows_7_editions

 

[LongTimePCUser]

The Microscentre link seems to be dead.

Originally posted by: Lonyo
United States

Microcentre (In store) $39.99 / $89.99 !!!!
http://www.microcenter.com/sto...184650&BrRc=1100488283