Windows 10 steals your bandwidth, to save Microsoft money!

[VirtualLarry]

http://thenextweb.com/microsoft/201...-your-bandwidth-to-send-other-people-updates/

 

[TheELF]

No, windows is telling you about it and is giving you a choice to use this feature or not,it was even advertised by microsoft prior to launch.

Stealing is what hola! did, where nobody knew about it.

 

[spat55]

All you are doing is seeding stop making such a big deal out of it. I agree it shouldn't be on by default but it isn't that bad.

 

[VirtualLarry]

it was even advertised by microsoft prior to launch.

I don't recall MS advertising using YOUR bandwidth to provide updates to other random people over the internet, rather than get their updates direct from MS.

Edit: Is MS going to pay your $1000 data overage bill from your cell provider, for your 3G/LTE tablet, that you just upgraded to Win10?

 

[VirtualLarry]

All you are doing is seeding stop making such a big deal out of it. I agree it shouldn't be on by default but it isn't that bad.

You obviously live in part of the world, where you have the luxury of fixed-price, "unlimited" internet.

I'm on FIOS, and even I'm concerned about this... especially, since you can't turn updates off on Win10. I have a "soft cap" at 10TB/mo. At 92Mbit/sec upload, that limit goes much quicker than you think, especially if MS is maxing my upload pipe.

 

[balloonshark]

I can't believe this "feature" is on by default. It should ask you about your connection during install so you can opt out if your ISP has a cap. Not only that but it just adds another way for the bad guys (or "good" guys) to exploit.

It's looking more and more like this is in no way a "free" upgrade. It comes with an app store to sell us apps. We can't turn off updates so now we are all beta testers. It wants to use everyone's bandwidth to update itself. It sorta sounds like a Windows 10 user is an unpaid employee of Microsoft :hmm:

 

[ShintaiDK]

I dont get the purpose.

Sooner or later someone will learn to exploit this to send bad code to others. And MS isnt exactly a poor company that cant afford the bandwidth.

And then there is the long list of possible issues for the enduser and its ISP.

Windows 10 only shows MS havent learned a thing since Windows 8. Its the same company mentality that still rules.

 

[postmortemIA]

Way too many things turned on by default. It is PITA to get all this configured right.

I love "Microsoft recommended defaults" setting in default apps modern that makes all Microsoft apps default

 

[lxskllr]

Conceptually, I like the idea. It's a good way of distributing the burden of distribution, and makes the system more fault tolerant. I'm not particularly fond of a for-profit, distributor of proprietary software using it without recompense to the user. They could at least throw in an ad free version of solitaire for the distributors :^S

 

[Dahak]

I knew that they where going to do this for pcs on a local network but yes I agree that hit should not be on by default for other machines over the internet

 

[balloonshark]

Wow! Even more insanity. It's not related to sharing your bandwidth but about sharing your network. http://www.dslreports.com/forum/r30145599-Windows-10-feature-Wi-Fi-Sense

I guess this means we shouldn't even let a guest Windows 10 machine on our networks and we need to mod our SSIDs if we don't want to share our networks with the everyone

 

[Puffnstuff]

So we're all involuntarily distributing via BitTorrent for MS? LOL

 

[TheELF]

Sites where talking about it back in march,so it was advertised.
http://www.theverge.com/2015/3/15/8218215/microsoft-windows-10-updates-p2p
And when it tells you that you will get your updates from other users in the internet how can you believe that only others will send you stuff without you sending stuff as well?

http://windows.microsoft.com/en-us/windows-10/windows-update-delivery-optimization-faq

Will Delivery Optimization download over metered connections?
As with Windows 8.1, Windows 10 won't automatically download updates or apps if it detects that your PC is using a metered connection. Similarly, Delivery Optimization won’t automatically download or send parts of updates or apps to other PCs on the Internet if it detects that you're using a metered connection.

 

[JimmiG]

I can't believe this "feature" is on by default. It should ask you about your connection during install so you can opt out if your ISP has a cap. Not only that but it just adds another way for the bad guys (or "good" guys) to exploit.

It's looking more and more like this is in no way a "free" upgrade. It comes with an app store to sell us apps. We can't turn off updates so now we are all beta testers. It wants to use everyone's bandwidth to update itself. It sorta sounds like a Windows 10 user is an unpaid employee of Microsoft :hmm:

With Windows 10, we're not Microsoft's customers. Microsoft is our customer, and we provide them with advertisment ID's, personal data, telemtry data, bandwidth etc.

 

[Grooveriding]

Really is a pretty poisonous OS all around with this monitoring garbage. I hope all the available tweaks are really handling disabling all of it and there are no more hidden spyware features we can't see/disable.

 

[TeknoBug]

So is this section in WU what it's about? Glad I discovered this section.

 

[Leyawiin]

I tried toggling it to "PCs on my local network" and could no longer connect to the internet.

 

[cmdrdredd]

You obviously live in part of the world, where you have the luxury of fixed-price, "unlimited" internet.

I'm on FIOS, and even I'm concerned about this... especially, since you can't turn updates off on Win10. I have a "soft cap" at 10TB/mo. At 92Mbit/sec upload, that limit goes much quicker than you think, especially if MS is maxing my upload pipe.

Then turn it off and move on.

 

[owensdj]

This takes you a literally a few seconds to change. I changed it to just the local network.

 

[shabby]

Really is a pretty poisonous OS all around with this monitoring garbage. I hope all the available tweaks are really handling disabling all of it and there are no more hidden spyware features we can't see/disable.

We need a one-click-disable-all-shit app for this os, its baffling how much stuff ms is collecting on its users.

 

[balloonshark]

Then turn it off and move on.

As someone who is still weighing whether or not to "upgrade" I'm glad the OP posted about this "feature". When it comes to my PC I'm very picky about what its going on in the background. I especially like to know what is connecting out and where to. My ISP also has a 250GB cap for my speed tier so any unnecessary bandwidth usage needs to be dealt with.

 

[quikah]

They should have defaulted to local network only, but otherwise you guys are overreacting IMO. Everyone with bandwidth caps should be thankful for the local network option, that is extremely helpful.

 

[Elixer]

I don't recall MS advertising using YOUR bandwidth to provide updates to other random people over the internet, rather than get their updates direct from MS.

Edit: Is MS going to pay your $1000 data overage bill from your cell provider, for your 3G/LTE tablet, that you just upgraded to Win10?

Exactly, if they would TELL people about it, pretty much all of them would turn it OFF. Very few people would like their bandwidth being used without being told, "Hey, since we don't have enough server capacity, we are going to use your bandwidth instead, and since we gave you win 10 for "free", it shouldn't bug you."

Next up is MS selling live tiles advertisements streamed to your machine.

 

[postmortemIA]

This takes you a literally a few seconds to change. I changed it to just the local network.

Yep if you know that setting is there. And also if you have only one PC.
Me two desktops, 2 laptops, and a tablet. That is starting to be difficult, unless that option to sync PC options among the PCs really works well.

 

[cmdrdredd]

If you are on a metered connection it won't use windows update.