Windows 10 is actually faster than Win 7

[Mem]

Well, I was definitely a "Win7 fan" when Windows 8 and 8.1 came out, simply because they were not very good operating systems. I didn't want a tablet GUI stretched all over my 27" screen. It was a misguided product of the overhyped tablet craze. Windows 10 kind of proved that the "Windows 7 fans" were right about the start screen.

However I actually like Windows 10 even though the UI is still uglier and less polished than Win7. Both Win8 and Win10 are faster and more efficient than Win7. It's just that with Win8, the trade offs in usability weren't worth it for a small performance gain.

I don't like the term fan, to me an OS I either like and use or don't use, only OS I hated was WinME, rest from DOS upwards including 2K, XP, Vista, 8 etc I did not mind at all.

I do feel as the Windows OS has become easier over the decades, level of complaints has risen, especially over some really minor things.

Anyway it will be interesting to see what Windows looks like in say ten years time, looking forward to that.

I read Stardock is releasing WindowsBlinds soon for 10, that will help if you hate the default look, personally not an issue for me however.

 

[JackMDS]

I did not use it but it is out there,

http://www.thewindowsclub.com/missed-features-installer-for-windows-10

May be it can make 7 Fans 10. :\

 

[Charlie98]

...only OS I hated was WinME...

Then you and I actually agree on one thing. :thumbsup:

Why did you not like WinME? Just curious...

 

[Puffnstuff]

The one thing that I do see in 10 is that accessing the devices and printers menu is a bit slow for me.

 

[Charlie98]

You know what's sad about this OS forum or thread, is when I honestly post without insults or malice I get remarks like this from you and other members here .

Sad you have dropped to this level.

Btw I never troll, those that have been around in AT know this, debating in a thread is another thing.

You know what's sad about this? Is the intolerance of some people who don't accept another's point of view, and then pulls out the personal attack card by calling me lazy and sad. People's praise or opposition to W10 is reasonable, given that specific user's point of view. I don't fault you for liking W10, please don't criticize me for not liking it by calling me names. You are not debating...

 

[Mem]

You know what's sad about this? Is the intolerance of some people who don't accept another's point of view, and then pulls out the personal attack card by calling me lazy and sad. People's praise or opposition to W10 is reasonable, given that specific user's point of view. I don't fault you for liking W10, please don't criticize me for not liking it by calling me names. You are not debating...

Hold your horses I never called you lazy or personal attacks on you by name etc..As to your point of view and liking Win7 I have no issues with that, no issues with you not liking 10 either, to me it's just another modern Windows.

What I was saying is basically nothing hard going from Win7 to any modern Windows ie 8, 8.1, 10 etc...

I'll say as an ex-Win7 user myself there is no real issues with Win10, for the record I'm not telling you or anybody to change to any Operating System out there.

Anyway think we have covered it all.

 

[Mem]

Then you and I actually agree on one thing. :thumbsup:

Why did you not like WinME? Just curious...

Basically very buggy, for example I was called out to a few friends to fix things and even getting it to work with some basic printers(with correct WinME printer drivers) was a nightmare.

 

[sweenish]

Oh, yea... certainly unwarranted. That's why MS rushed out W8.1 so everyone would forget this decade's version of WinME.

As far as W10 dissatisfaction goes, there are many reasons people are not happy with it, or avoiding it... maybe not for you, and that's OK.

You proved my point with your first statement. Congratulations.

 

[Z15CAM]

I liked WinME as I found it not different then WinSE but still to today refuse to use MS's BackUp proggy.

 

[Elixer]

Why is this thread getting to be so OT?


Again people, if you don't want/care about Win 10, fine. So be it.
But, for those people that it has actually helped their old systems, there is no need to start this silly arguments all about nothing, just because you personally don't like win 10 for whatever reason.

 

[Charlie98]

Why is this thread getting to be so OT?


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I think it's getting to the point of W7 vs W10, like AMD vs NVidia (GPUs), or AMD vs Intel (CPUs.) The camps are divided, the battlements are up...

As far as the premise of the OP, sure, W10 is most likely faster on modern equipment than W7. There.

 

[ultima_trev]

Windows 10 is indeed faster than Windows 7... But that's not really news as Windows 8 was similarly optimized and ran great on older hardware. It made my old laptop n with a first gen (65nm) Core 2 Duo+2 GB of RAM (which didn't even have an SDD) feel very responsive and snappy. Kudos to Microsoft indeed, for getting it right since Windows 8.

 

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[mikeymikec]

Why is this thread getting to be so OT?


Again people, if you don't want/care about Win 10, fine. So be it.
But, for those people that it has actually helped their old systems, there is no need to start this silly arguments all about nothing, just because you personally don't like win 10 for whatever reason.

Personally I think it's absolutely fine for people to say why they do or don't like a product as long as the comment has some actual factual base in reality.

There are few ways for which a pointless argument may start:

1) Someone makes some comment like "Win10 is spying on me!" without pointing out the actual OS behaviour that they don't like, and very much sounding like that they read "somewhere on the Internet" that "Win10 spies on people" and that source mentions absolutely nothing specific to back up its claim. This rubs people up the wrong way.

2) User A says "I don't like Win10 because" <insert specific claim here, be it their own experience or an article they read that has specific claims and reasonable evidence to back up those claims>, then users B, C and/or D come along and start arguing with user A with mostly irrelevant responses like "Win7 is in the past!", when the only useful counterpoint is to debunk the claim (show that it is a false or incorrect claim, not why its detractors personally consider it to be not significant).

3) Zero fact, pure opinion posts, such as this comment which led to three more irrelevant posts, none of which carried any value in a technical discussion:

I personally ran 7 the longest of any OS and I'd rather use 10 with classic shell.

4) Almost purely offensive or defensive comments that have little or no value in any discussion and may be intended as a conversation terminator because the poster very likely doesn't like someone's comments:

You know if you don't like a particular product then don't use it.

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It doesn't help that users like Sweenish like to jump on threads similar to this and rub people up the wrong way in a very direct fashion, such as here. Back when there were a lot more threads about XP shortly before and after its support date expired, he would routinely thread-crap (eg. "XP is dead, get over it!") even when the OP asked a specific question about how to do xyz on XP.

 

[Mem]

I think it's getting to the point of W7 vs W10, like AMD vs NVidia (GPUs), or AMD vs Intel (CPUs.) The camps are divided, the battlements are up...

As far as the premise of the OP, sure, W10 is most likely faster on modern equipment than W7. There.

To be fair I remember here at AT forums with the 2K via XP thread, that was very heated and long, I remember posting in that(was neutral in that since liked them both equally), years or decades seem to fly past lol.

Anyway it's normal for things like this, been happening for decades and it will continue in the next OS whatever reincarnation that takes.
End of the day nothing personnel (including me)by most members here.


Getting back on topic again I do feel Win10 is quite polished for a new OS, certainly been worst Operating Systems by Microsoft on its initial release, even XP was worst on day one.
As to Win10 speed, probably those with SSDs will not notice it much on either Win7 or Win10 either way.

 

[Charlie98]

The OP wasn't dealing with modern equipment, quite the opposite. The systems being referred to were old laptops with very slow mechanical hard drives in them, and like I said, I think Windows 10 has improved prefetching because HDD systems are where I too have seen modest improvements in responsiveness.

I think on older PCs you are dealing with more of a hardware issue than an efficient OS. I was quite surprised that W7 loaded on my old Dell AMD 2-core laptop, and was fairly usable with few driver problems. I can't say W10 was any faster on the same machine after I upgraded it, but I didn't run any benchmarks or time the boot or anything. But at the end of the day, the old hardware was holding it back... primarily the CPU.

To be fair I remember here at AT forums with the 2K via XP thread, that was very heated and long, I remember posting in that(was neutral in that since liked them both equally), years or decades seem to fly past lol.

Every once in a while an issue will come up that polarizes everyone. I mentioned the AMD vs NVidia, which is ongoing, probably to the end of time. On my gun forums, it's M14 vs M16, on the truck forums it's Ford vs Chevrolet. W8 was a rocky update, but I don't feel it was as polarizing as the current W10 is, for a number of reasons.

 

[Compman55]

If anyone cares..... my personal experiance is this:

I used a Latitude E6510 lappy to test.

If I installed Win7 x64 pro and did complete updates on it, then upgraded to W10 pro, and also did the complete updates, I would agree W10 is overall faster in starting, shutting down, and launching programs. I say programs as W7 does not have "apps" in a sense W8/W10 does.

Now, playing old DX 8/9 games I notice W7 is a little faster frame rates.

 

[ArisVer]

2) User A says "I don't like Win10 because" <insert specific claim here, be it their own experience or an article they read that has specific claims and reasonable evidence to back up those claims>, then users B, C and/or D come along and start arguing with user A with mostly irrelevant responses like "Win7 is in the past!", when the only useful counterpoint is to debunk the claim (show that it is a false or incorrect claim, not why its detractors personally consider it to be not significant).

Maybe is time to see the threads as a flowchart. This post relates to the thread? > No-Out / Yes-In

As far as the OP I would try and link together OS and hardware. If you go forward in time newer hardware will require newer OS. We saw that during the evolution of Windows and it is a cycle that will keep repeating. We also started to see this cycle to last 5 years easy and the lifespan will continue to grow. If Win10 is able to run faster than Win7 that's good but I wouldn't buy it because of that. I see it the same way I use a Sandy Bridge notebook as my main rig. It does the job well enough.

 

[JackMDS]

If anyone cares..... my personal experiance is this:

I used a Latitude E6510 lappy to test.

If I installed Win7 x64 pro and did complete updates on it, then upgraded to W10 pro, and also did the complete updates, I would agree W10 is overall faster in starting, shutting down, and launching programs. I say programs as W7 does not have "apps" in a sense W8/W10 does.

Now, playing old DX 8/9 games I notice W7 is a little faster frame rates.

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[nerp]

7 is a fix of Vista, which is based off XP, which is based off 2000, which is based on NT.

It's time to move on.

 

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[escrow4]

I've always used the latest Windows OS. Mystery why. My main phone is a $15 candybar and I don't really upgrade hardware that fast anymore either. 10 is an evolution of 8/8.1, nothing more. 7 is creaking old and is increasingly useless; it has no native USB 3, is barely aware of UEFI and I doubt it fully supports Skylake. Its not 2009 no more, and the lack of a SP3 by now is telling.

 

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[Compman55]

Was that with the Samsung PM800 or mechanical drive?

It was tested using a current model Hitachi 7200RPM 32MB cache 500GB mechanical drive. I had 4 of these lappys identically spec'ed and tested side by side. I just left out the boring details to keep the point short and sweet.