Windows 10 is actually faster than Win 7

[Elixer]

So far, 3 different people with laptops have been commenting on how much faster windows 10 is compared to windows 7.
Everything from booting into the OS, to normal day to day operations.

These laptops range in age from 5 to 8 years old.
They are from dell & HP, and are pretty bottom of the barrel in terms of performance.

They said if it wasn't a free upgrade, they would have gladly paid for it, if they would have known it was going to be that fast for them.

Yes, I explained about the issues surrounding windows 10, and all they care about is having a faster machine than before.

So, you got to hand it to MS, they sure did optimize it for low-end machines.

 

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[MongGrel]

Seems to be an upsurge of WIN 10 slamming in general atm from a few people.

If you don't like it do not install it.

Sounds like Vista was years ago.

 

[MustISO]

I don't have 10 an any of my home systems but I have clients that do. On the systems I've had access to Windows 10 seemed to constantly be running something in the background and hitting the hard drive relentlessly. I do have one client that purchased a system with 10 pre-installed and it works fine but it's a beefy system.

I personally find it hard to believe that it's running faster on an 8 year old system than a clean install of Windows 7 but again I haven't done the comparison myself. I've seen it on brand new laptops where Win 10 ran like complete crap.

 

[Elixer]

Ahh, yeah, forgot to mention that these are all laptops with 5400RPM spinners, and they did the in-place upgrade, not the clean install way.
They were all from the same senior center, so they tend to do things together.

 

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[Mem]

Seems more like Windows 10 fans have some sort of victim mentality complex on Windows 10's behalf, and perceive Windows 10 "slamming" whether it exists or not.

Seriously, what even prompted that post?

Funny I hear that more from Win7 fans, nothing changes.

I had this from them on Win8 then 8.1 and now Win10 from Win7 fans, about time they except Win7 is on its way out, nothing will change that.

I'll probably see the same threads from Win7 fans on next Microsoft OS, roll on 2020 .

 

[MongGrel]

Seems more like Windows 10 fans have some sort of victim mentality complex on Windows 10's behalf, and perceive Windows 10 "slamming" whether it exists or not.

Seriously, what even prompted that post?

Use what you want to I suppose, knock yourself out.

 

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[bbhaag]

I noticed a huge difference when I moved from 7 to 8 and then later 8.1. When I tried the 10 Technical Preview and didn't notice as big of an improvement.

I honestly think 10 is just 8/8.1 with a UI change and NOW DIRECTX 12!!

 

[Mem]

Accept what? Four more years of support is not even close to "on it's way out". Lay off the hyperbole a little, and more people might be inclined to take your advice seriously.

Win7 has been around since 2009, so not like you guys have had time to adjust to a more modern version, OS wise, end of the day you will have to move on sooner or later, this is not hyperbole but a fact.

Also remember mainstream support has already ended for Win7 this is also a fact, it's now on extended support until RIP in Jan 2020.

Hope that is clear.

Big issue is what will you guys do when it dies, got my front seat booked :biggrin: .

I can never understand people that get too attached to one Operating System.

Side note: I do feel there is more to Win10 then just speed.

 

[Raduque]

Seems to be an upsurge of WIN 10 slamming in general atm from a few people.

If you don't like it do not install it.

Sounds like Vista was years ago.

Yep, and it's pretty much the same people who are crapping.

 

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[Mem]

Win7 is going to be around until 2020, so it's not like "us guys" have any incentive to adjust to a more modern version if we don't need to. For the record, I've been perfectly capable of adjusting to 8.1 and 10, I just prefer 7.



You have a very short memory. The hyperbole I identified was your claim that Windows 7 is "on it's way out".



And?



Move to 8.1, or 10 if there's sufficient incentive (ie. DX12 has actually proven itself). Hate to ruin the surprise for you, but you're the only one imagining some Win7 EOL hysteria and the entirety of Win7 users having a virulent hatred for every other OS. The reality is that most of us have calmly weighed up the pros and cons, and made a tentative decision to stay on 7.

I must say you do a splendid impression of a gloating idiot.

Did not take you long to start throwing insults, what I expect from you. However I won't go down to your level.

You forget I use Linux just as much as Windows.

I stated valid reasons, sure you can use Win7 until 2020 but does not take the away any of the facts I stated and yes it is on the way out,that happens to every OS.


You forget some users can't upgrade due to their hardware or specialized software, I'm not saying upgrade to Win10 now, what I'm saying is nothing special about Win7, there are better Operating Systems then Win7 out there IMHO, also with longer life spans, more features and better security etc...

What gets me is the FUD about Win10 from some Win7 users.

I will say I find the privacy drama about Microsoft in general has been way overblown.

 

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[Mem]

Keep on back-peddling.

I guess you have nothing valid to say, what I expected lol .

Getting back on main topic, I do feel Win10 is faster then Win7, I also had my brother say the same thing and he had fresh install of Win7(HD died so fresh install on new HD) before he upgraded to 10.

Having said all that I feel it's really a very minor aspect of Win10...I know some people are speed freaks .


Linux is a good free alternative if you don't game, some great distros out there that have nice layouts, Start menus etc and a few distros are very fast.

Learning curve is higher on Linux but then most things are compared to Windows .

 

[Underclocked]

Tell me why I should upgrade from 7 to 10, irrespective of projected life-spans. Tell me what is more modern about simplistic graphics and confused, unnecessarily complicated system settings. Windows 10 offers absolutely nothing I need and a great deal of crap that I do not.

 

[Elixer]

Tell me why I should upgrade from 7 to 10, irrespective of projected life-spans. Tell me what is more modern about simplistic graphics and confused, unnecessarily complicated system settings. Windows 10 offers absolutely nothing I need and a great deal of crap that I do not.

Nobody is telling you to do anything you don't want to.
Not sure why you posted this in this thread.

 

[Puffnstuff]

As a long time win 7 ult x64 user I couldn't wait to make the switch to 10 and have no regrets about doing so. Ultimately, as the end user, you choose whatever OS you want to run and justify your own decision so you don't need any of us to reinforce your own choices here.

 

[escrow4]

Tell me why I should upgrade from 7 to 10, irrespective of projected life-spans. Tell me what is more modern about simplistic graphics and confused, unnecessarily complicated system settings. Windows 10 offers absolutely nothing I need and a great deal of crap that I do not.

What is complicated? Type privacy, adjust as you want. Type control and choose the desktop app for control panel and adjust what you want. I'd upgrade purely for modern driver support and the tweaked kernel.

 

[Mem]

Tell me why I should upgrade from 7 to 10, irrespective of projected life-spans. Tell me what is more modern about simplistic graphics and confused, unnecessarily complicated system settings. Windows 10 offers absolutely nothing I need and a great deal of crap that I do not.

First you can use what you want, the thread topic is about Windows 10 being faster then 7, as to needs and crap, well that is all down to the individual user in question.

Also there is nothing complicated about Windows, especially modern Windows, a ten year could use it just fine, now if you had stated using DOS and having to learn various DOS commands, rearranging IRQs, memory remapping etc then you would be right about being complicated for the average user.

Thankfully modern Windows is very simple.

 

[Charlie98]

For the record, I've been perfectly capable of adjusting to 8.1 and 10, I just prefer 7.

The reality is that most of us have calmly weighed up the pros and cons, and made a tentative decision to stay on 7.

That's how I see it, and how I have handled it.

As far as the OP, I would HOPE a newer OS would be faster and more efficient than the previous one... I thought W8.1 was faster than 7, and W10 at least as fast as W8.1. I loaded W10 on my old AMD 2-core laptop and it ran fine. I don't think anyone is saying it's not a decent OS, I think the problem lies in the additional 'features' W10 carries (telemetry, forced updates,) how MS is strong-arming implementation of it, and, in my case with my HTPC, the loss of some features like WMC.

When W7 EOL's, I'll just move on to the next OS, whatever that may be.

I stated valid reasons, sure you can use Win7 until 2020 but does not take the away any of the facts I stated and yes it is on the way out,that happens to every OS.

Following that logic, the current version of W10 is 'on it's way out.'

 

[stockwiz]

I felt compelled to post this here as a counterargument to some of my own criticisms of windows 10 because I myself found it rather insightful.. the below writings are not mine, taken from another forum... maybe people here can pick this post apart and let me know what's in error.




"Bloated? It's the least-bloated Windows OS ever. They've paired down the OS calls by THOUSANDS.

Tile crap - You don't have to use it. You CAN revert to the really clumsy windows 95 style interface. I think you'll love it more if you enable full screen tiles, which is an amazing interface (Metro FTW).

I.E. is a problem, but 11 is mostly compatible with things and I expect edge to gradually come into compliance. 11 now passes something like 98% of the ACID test, which is better than some other 3rd party browsers and MUCH better on memory than chrome.

50% screen toolbars? That's just a lie. My desktops are extremely clean and manageable compared to iOS, the metro toolbars on tablet and phone are constantly ranked ahead of iOS and Android (which, BTW use 95% of the screen for their menus).

The reporting / snooping. All this can be disabled 100%.

Do yourself a favor, download Fiddler (or any packet sniffer of your choice) and then open Chrome. Be prepared: Chrome is MASSIVELY spying on you with CONSTANT packets back to home-office, makes windows 10 look like a piker in comparison. Remember, chrome doesn't allow you to block this but windows does.

Oh and try and do packet sniffing / inspection in iOS...that crappy O.S. hides tons of stuff from you. Heck, you can't even access ring 0 code in iOS as a developer. That makes me laugh as it means all those metronomes musicians use are constantly drifting and having to be corrected for. Don't even get me started on iOS's complete shit of a threading model.

Those Android phones? CONSTANTLY ranging beacons, routers, GPS and reporting your location and status back to various servers, even "peer sharing" information with nearby phones. Running in a VM on top of a crap Linux build means degraded performance, which we're constantly seeing in older model Android phones...they use 30% of their processing power running the underlying host OS and the VM...which achieves NOTHING.

Windows 10 is very fast, lightweight and flexible. The menu is extremely flexible and fast (although I prefer the full metro menu, as it's far less a compromise).

Continuum is looking very strong and the Surface pro 4 is a dream of a tablet, destroying iOS and Android tables at every level of usability and performance.

You're biggest gripe seems to be METRO. Metro takes some time to get used to but once it sinks in, it's the best UIX I've ever used. I HATE going over to a XP or 7 machine or (God forbid)iOS / Android.

Source: I'm a coder, working in the .NET / CE and Java / Android and have worked as an Apple programmer (old school, 6502 stuff).

Oh and Cortana, once you train it, is very useful...like it a lot better than Siri."

 

[Charlie98]

The reporting / snooping. All this can be disabled 100%.

 

[mikeymikec]

IMO if you're going to compare one version of Windows to another in terms of performance, then both have to be clean installs (ie. not the sort done by the big-name typical OEM); there's a reasonable chance that if the OEM made modifications to parts of the OS, those may have been overwritten by the upgrade, or if there's some buggy bit of OEM software set to auto-start which has been flagged as incompatible with the new version, it was probably either removed or stopped from auto-starting.

I'm sure that most people here have seen a clean install of Windows (ie. one done from an MS disc rather than a recovery disc of some sort) outperform the big-name OEM install of the same version of the OS.

On the flipside of all this, I wouldn't judge Win10's performance in general terms by the performance of a GWX-upgraded machine (or even ten such machines of widely varying specs), simply because there might be something about the original installation or the upgrade procedure which is negatively impacting performance.