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Willis McGahee concusion only? BS

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A league source tells us that Ravens running back Willis McGahee suffered a concussion on that wicked fourth-quarter hit from Steelers safety Ryan Clark.

Per the source, McGahee is ?OK.?

It remains to be seen whether the league characterizes the hit from Clark as a violation of the rules. It wasn?t a classic helmet-to-helmet hit; McGahee seemed to drop his head as Clark was approaching, and Clark appears to try to lead with his shoulder.

UPDATE: Actually, I just saw a different angle while watching the sequence of events on TiVo. It was a helmet-to-helmet hit and Clark should be suspended for the Super Bowl. Period.
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For those of you who don't watch football, take a look at the video. For the record, the video was cut -- he was lying on the field for a good 4-5 minutes before he got lifted off.

http://www.profootballtalk.com...concussion-will-be-ok/

I don't think this site knows what it's talking about -- there is no way that was just a concussion, especially since they said (league) that he has considerable neck pain. He can move his limbs fine though, which is good.

Any how, I don't agree with the people who are saying Clark did it on purpose -- if you watch the video, I feel that he WAS trying to make a big hit with his shoulder but his helmet caught first. Either way yes, it was an unnecessary hit but I seriously doubt he would do it on purpose. Helmet to helmet, as you can see, hurts both players so why would Clark want to hurt himself?

I hope to hear more about McGahee and hope he's OK.


UPDATE: ESPN says he'll be fine
http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/.../news/story?id=3844665
 
Clark led with his shoulder, McGahee dropped his head. No penalty, no fine, hope McGahee is ok. That was a massive collision.
 
Originally posted by: TallBill
Clark led with his shoulder, McGahee dropped his head. No penalty, no fine, hope McGahee is ok. That was a massive collision.
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this.

it was not a cheap shot at all. he was not defenseless either. they both clearly braced for the impact, and clark clearly led with his shoulder.

the collision was so violent and head on head because mcgahee went low and so did clark. if mcgahee was just running at normal height it woulda been a clean hit to the chest, but since he lowered down, it ended up being head on.

i don't think he should be suspended or fined or anything. it was a clean, violent hit. it's part of football.

i disagree it was "unnecessary". what should clark have done, tried to stand his ground and get knocked back 5 yards or so? he was doing his job, trying to stop the other guy from progressing the football down the field. it was just one of those freak accident hits. there were a few hits in this game that came on blocks (one near the sideline, can't remember exactly when) that was of that caliber and the game went on w/out penalties.
 
Originally posted by: TallBill
Clark led with his shoulder, McGahee dropped his head. No penalty, no fine, hope McGahee is ok. That was a massive collision.
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It wasn't Clark deliberately trying to kill McGahee.
 
Yeah he shouldn't get suspended for it. It was a completed pass, fumble recovery. A helmet to helmet incident that happens in the air before the receiver has enough time or the ability to react is a different story. He turned right at him and took two steps before it happened.
 
What other injury would he have other than a concussion and a really sore neck? Concussions are pretty serious and they took necessary precautions, he'll probably be just fine.

And that hit was perfectly legal.
 
Originally posted by: spidey07
What other injury would he have other than a concussion and a really sore neck? Concussions are pretty serious and they took necessary precautions, he'll probably be just fine.

And that hit was perfectly legal.
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I was thinking a broken neck or something
 
he'll be fine by next season. that was definitely one heck of a hit, though. i think i felt it through the television.
 
Originally posted by: Quintox
Originally posted by: spidey07
What other injury would he have other than a concussion and a really sore neck? Concussions are pretty serious and they took necessary precautions, he'll probably be just fine.

And that hit was perfectly legal.
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I was thinking a broken neck or something
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They wear pretty heavy gear for a reason. The helmets will have eaten up some of the impact force.
 
Originally posted by: TallBill
Clark led with his shoulder, McGahee dropped his head. No penalty, no fine, hope McGahee is ok. That was a massive collision.
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You give too much credit to Roger Goodell. He fines people for everything.
 
you know when you get a matchup between the ravens and steelers there will be a lot of big hits, they both have amazing defenses. this was just one of them.

that was a clean hit. i also feel helmet to helmet hits have just as much a chance to injure the hitter as the guy being hit.

glad to read mcgahee is fine, cause he was down a long time :thumbsup:
 
I think it was a clean hit. Especially if you watch Dawkins on the Eagles always leads with his helmet and most of his tackles are helmet to helmet and nothing happens.
 
McGahee just can't catch a break with injuries, can he?

His two most high profile injuries occured in the BCS National Championship game and the AFC championship game.
 
It looked like McGahee was disregarding his own safety as he tried to make a big play his team desperately needed. He seemed to be running full speed ahead without looking.
 
suspended? for that hit? wtf are people retarded? that was a legal (yeah hard) hit.

And what point is there to cover up a worse injury?

 
Also that forced fumble was the play that put the game away. Shame that will be overshadowed by the injury as it was a great hit at a crucial time.
 
I'd also like to point out that is one of the most dangerous plays in football - quick pass with a receiver/TE/back coming across the middle. They normally get drilled as soon as they catch it.
 
Originally posted by: HeroOfPellinor
Also that forced fumble was the play that put the game away. Shame that will be overshadowed by the injury as it was a great hit at a crucial time.
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yea i agree with this and was talking to people about this today.

i work with a ton of ravens fans (like 10 miles south of baltimore), and it's funny how they are the only ones who think it was not a clean shot.
 
You guys are blind. watch again!

Clark wasn't even trying to tackle and even tucked his arms to his own body as he speared McGahee. In addition to that Clark left his feet and launched his body head first high into McGahees. There are no motions Clark makes to indicate that he was trying to do anything than launch his helmet into McGahee's helmet.



 
Originally posted by: Zebo
You guys are blind. watch again!

Clark wasn't even trying to tackle and even tucked his arms to his own body as he speared McGahee. In addition to that Clark left his feet and launched his body head first high into McGahees. There are no motions Clark makes to indicate that he was trying to do anything than launch his helmet into McGahee's helmet.
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You have no clue what spearing is. Spearing in football means hitting straight on with the crown of your helmet so that your spine is in perfect alignment and doesn't flex at all when you make impact. Ryan Clark led with his shoulder. So what if he wasn't trying to wrap him up? He was trying to knock the ball lose and he accomplished it.

LOL. What are you, a Ravens fan or somebody who lost money on the game?
 
Originally posted by: Zebo
You guys are blind. watch again!

Clark wasn't even trying to tackle and even tucked his arms to his own body as he speared McGahee. In addition to that Clark left his feet and launched his body head first high into McGahees. There are no motions Clark makes to indicate that he was trying to do anything than launch his helmet into McGahee's helmet.
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you are allowed to launch shoulder first at someone, w/out your arms trying to 'wrap them up', and that is exactly what clark did.

and it was not high at all. he went low. mcgahee also went low, which is why they hit head on head.
 
Originally posted by: HeroOfPellinor
Originally posted by: Zebo
You guys are blind. watch again!

Clark wasn't even trying to tackle and even tucked his arms to his own body as he speared McGahee. In addition to that Clark left his feet and launched his body head first high into McGahees. There are no motions Clark makes to indicate that he was trying to do anything than launch his helmet into McGahee's helmet.
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You have no clue what spearing is. Spearing in football means hitting straight on with the crown of your helmet so that your spine is in perfect alignment and doesn't flex at all when you make impact. Ryan Clark led with his shoulder. So what if he wasn't trying to wrap him up? He was trying to knock the ball lose and he accomplished it.

LOL. What are you, a Ravens fan or somebody who lost money on the game?
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I see what spearing is at 55sec as Clark straightened up and went up to meet McGhahees helmet.
 
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