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Will we know the **offical** NV30 specs on Nov 18 ?

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Originally posted by: Mem
Worse yet for nVidia, the R350 is being developed.... if the NV30 takes back the speed crown, it might be shorter-lived than nVidia would hope

Does it really matter since Nvidia will counter with NV40 etc and it will continue between ATI and Nvidia as the top king on the block for a short period of time ,in the end we all know that no graphics card stays in top spot for long,both Nvidia and ATi are making fasters card and in the end we are the ones that`ll benefit.Lets just be happy we will have more choices to choose from both brands. 🙂
Don't get me wrong - the competition is good! I just can't help but notice that nVidia seems to have stumbled and lost quite a bit of ground. Yes NV40 will come out some day and be faster than R350 BUT CONSIDERING how long it's taken for NV30 to come around, I can't help but think NV40 won't be around for a good long time. The R300 + DDRII (or whatever the uber-RAM will be) and R350 will likely be released LONG before NV40 ever comes out. Then again, who knows? 🙂 Anyone could fumble in this rough game... Heck, Intel could come out with a whopper internal graphics and steal the market-share from everyone except the tiny retail segment. Mind you, they're almost doing that with the current 845G.... 🙁

Intel should buy the hurting Matrox and Bitboys and come out with something good. 😉

 
Adul I don't really care when it shows on retail shelves. I just want it to be on retail shelves soon at least.
hmm....?

its funny how people show their bias... nvidia will have an answer to the Radeon 9700 mark my words... they know how strong the 9700 is and that's why they're gonna make the nv30 even better, I wouldn't be supprised if they hold back release until they do ... after all this is competition and Nvidia has withstood competition from matrox, ati, and could be considered a catalyst to voodoo's death.
Who's the biased one? Basically you just said nvidia can't be beat. Right...but you aren't the biased one, and its funny the way others show their bias
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Also if you click on the help button there too it says "What does Nvidia's processor, TNT, stand for?"

Well I found it TNT stands for "TwinTexel"

Pretty pointless
Twin Texel, meaning it could process two texels in a single pass. Not pointless.
 
Twin Texel, meaning it could process two texels in a single pass. Not pointless.
Goto the link and type that into the prompt the page you get to and your screensaver you can download is pretty pointless. As far as Twin Texel is great, I beleive we are up to Quad-Texel Pipelines?
 
Originally posted by: ai42
Twin Texel, meaning it could process two texels in a single pass. Not pointless.
Goto the link and type that into the prompt the page you get to and your screensaver you can download is pretty pointless. As far as Twin Texel is great, I beleive we are up to Quad-Texel Pipelines?

Actually, the Radeon had 3, the R300 is back to 1 IIRC.....Flipper has 8. So does Kyro(I think?)
 
Originally posted by: GTaudiophile
Yep, and we know that Carmack has said that R9700 is the official card of Doom III or whatever. I imagine R350 will ship with a copy of that!

IIRC, Carmack never said R9700 was the "official card" of Doom III, he just said that it was the best available at the time, so he was going to use it. I'm pretty sure he has always, for the most part, found nVidia products more capable than their ATI counterparts, so I'd find it hard to believe he would endorse ATI as the "official card" of a game that's still probably 9-12months away. Correct me if i'm wrong here.

Kramer
 
Seems to me that Nvidia fell behind because they put too many resources into their new mobo chipset business. This begs the question, was developing Nforce/Nforce2 worth losing 3d-card marketshare? For Nvidia's sake, I hope it was, otherwise their attempt at diversifying could result in running themselves out of business.

On top of that, competing with VIA in AMD chipsets, while AMD has such a low marketshare (sadly), means Nvidia absolutely must consider supporting Intel CPUs with Nforce if they are to stay alive, in the long run. (I put that in bold to stress that I don't think Nvidia will go out of business any time soon, and I'm sure people here would/will jump on my statement if they fail to understand that.)

Just my humble opinion, and I've always been a supporter of Nvidia and AMD.

edit: In response to the original question asked in the thread title: Don't count on any answers on Nov 18. I've been going to COMDEX here in Las Vegas the past 8 years, and have yet to see Nvidia give much information to the public, as their "exhibit" usually consists only of a meeting room for private appointments with OEM's and card developers. ATI always has a nice big exhibit, though.
 
Originally posted by: Coherence
Seems to me that Nvidia fell behind because they put too many resources into their new mobo chipset business. This begs the question, was developing Nforce/Nforce2 worth losing 3d-card marketshare? For Nvidia's sake, I hope it was, otherwise their attempt at diversifying could result in running themselves out of business.

On top of that, competing with VIA in AMD chipsets, while AMD has such a low marketshare (sadly), means Nvidia absolutely must consider supporting Intel CPUs with Nforce if they are to stay alive, in the long run. (I put that in bold to stress that I don't think Nvidia will go out of business any time soon, and I'm sure people here would/will jump on my statement if they fail to understand that.)

Just my humble opinion, and I've always been a supporter of Nvidia and AMD.

edit: In response to the original question asked in the thread title: Don't count on any answers on Nov 18. I've been going to COMDEX here in Las Vegas the past 8 years, and have yet to see Nvidia give much information to the public, as their "exhibit" usually consists only of a meeting room for private appointments with OEM's and card developers. ATI always has a nice big exhibit, though.

I'm sure nVidia would love to be producing a nForce for the P4, but Intel won't license them the rights necessary to do so. I'm pretty sure nVidia would jump at the chance, but don't plan on Intel licensing them anytime soon.

Kramer
 
Originally posted by: SexyK
Originally posted by: GTaudiophile
Yep, and we know that Carmack has said that R9700 is the official card of Doom III or whatever. I imagine R350 will ship with a copy of that!

IIRC, Carmack never said R9700 was the "official card" of Doom III, he just said that it was the best available at the time, so he was going to use it. I'm pretty sure he has always, for the most part, found nVidia products more capable than their ATI counterparts, so I'd find it hard to believe he would endorse ATI as the "official card" of a game that's still probably 9-12months away. Correct me if i'm wrong here.

Kramer

Also, Carmack has been using NVIDIA cards in development of Doom 3. He publicly stated that his next video card will be based on the features of the NV30. He is not a biased person since he recommends ATI for now as the best performing video card however he knows alot about graphics and if he says he is going to use NV30, its gotta count for something and must mean that NV30 will be a great product, better than R300 architecture.
 
Originally posted by: ai42
link

Did anyone else notice what happens when you click on the "n" in the corner?
Also if you click on the help button there too it says "What does Nvidia's processor, TNT, stand for?"

Well I found it TNT stands for "TwinTexel"

Pretty pointless

Um....

Guys, I think I found something?

it gives you a prompt to log into, the Help gives a hint to the password!

Username : Guest
Password : TwinTexel

You get to surf in a "Nvidia-like" Windows enviroment, not much to do there, but... for future news/specs/info?

I'll start a new thread on this I suppose, to inform more people...
 
Did anyone else notice what happens when you click on the "n" in the corner?

heh, just like Sandra Bullock in "The Net" ... damn, i wish pseudo-computer nerd girls really WERE as cute & gullible as she is...
 
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