Will there be birthers, but for bin laden?

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CallMeJoe

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So that we can never, ever question what they claim happened.
Burying in ground means he could be exhumed. Cremated means we could analyze the ashes.
Buried at sea means the body is gone, 100%, never to be found again...
Burial at sea means no shrine, no pilgrimage to the martyr's tomb.
 

Hayabusa Rider

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Burial at sea means no shrine, no pilgrimage to the martyr's tomb.

Yep.

I finally had a few minutes to look around at various forums I use to gauge political sentiments and was a bit surprised to find that at this point there isn't much comment on this being faked by birthers.

Not surprisingly the "9/11ers" as I'll refer to them are ahead of the curve for conspiracy theories, which seems independent of ideology.
 

Jhhnn

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I finally had a few minutes to look around at various forums I use to gauge political sentiments and was a bit surprised to find that at this point there isn't much comment on this being faked by birthers.

They're just waiting for their leadership to settle into a common groove, instinctive herd animals that they are.
 

CallMeJoe

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I finally had a few minutes to look around at various forums I use to gauge political sentiments and was a bit surprised to find that at this point there isn't much comment on this being faked by birthers.
Not surprisingly the "9/11ers" as I'll refer to them are ahead of the curve for conspiracy theories, which seems independent of ideology.
The "9/11ers" (or "Truthers") will manufacture all sort of conspiracy theories around this, since they deem Osama bin Laden a scapegoat, much as Dealey Plaza theorists view Mr. Oswald and Lorraine Motel theorists view Mr. Ray.

edit: Birthers are more interested in finding a new tack for challenging President Obama's status as president than disputing his actions.
 
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yllus

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Yep.

I finally had a few minutes to look around at various forums I use to gauge political sentiments and was a bit surprised to find that at this point there isn't much comment on this being faked by birthers.

Not surprisingly the "9/11ers" as I'll refer to them are ahead of the curve for conspiracy theories, which seems independent of ideology.

They'll get around to it. Thing is, they're a fairly stupid bunch of people, so they're dumbly waiting for the needed talking points to be provided in YouTube clip form provided before they can begin to blow hot air.
 
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Exit the birthers, usher in the deathers. And here I thought it was a good week for Obama shutting up the conspirists.

I underestimated just how crazy crazy can be.
 

yllus

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The compound, within which Al Qaeda leader Osama bin Laden was killed, burns after it was attacked in Abbottabad, Pakistan in this still image taken from mobile phone video May 2. (Stringer/Reuters)

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Pakistani soldiers walk past the bin Laden compound, surrounded in red fabric, where locals reported a firefight took place overnight in Abbotabad, located in Pakistan's Khyber Pakhtunkhwa province May 2. (Faisal Mahmood/Reuters)

Looks pretty intact to me.
 

kylebisme

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You must be fucking blind. 0:38, top left in blue with white letters "Pakistan helped US kill Osama: Obama"
I didn't notice that the banner at the top changed to that for a moment. Anwyay, ITN News, the people who made the report I linked, didn't claim Pakistan helped, the simply used footage from Express 24/7 showing the compound which included a banner making that claim.


Do you not even know what you type here?
I quoted ...you.
No, I didn't type "burn to the ground" here, at least not until just now.


Plenty of video of the building intact afterwards throughout the day. Considering that the raid took place early morning (dark), and you linked video it's dark, than the building would have to have been set on fire early this afternoon once night fell on the other side of the planet because it was still standing all day during the broadcast.
Right, that's the impression I had since before I posted the video; the raid took place early morning in the dark, the video of the building intact was taken during the day, and the fire happened after nightfall.

I am saying your conspiracy that they burned it down to hide something
I've never suggested the fire was intentional, you came up with that on your own.

Looks pretty intact to me.
It looks like you've got the timeline of the pictures backwards, considering the lack of fire damage in the second shot.
 
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Looks like you can add Dem poster child Cindy Sheehan to the list of "deathers". And if I remember correctly, Dems also started the "birther" movement. Hmmmm.
 

yllus

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It looks like you've got the timeline of the pictures backwards, considering the lack of fire damage in the second shot.

Oh, of course. Clearly Faisal Mahmood of Reuters took a photo of Osama Bin Laden's compound before the Navy SEALs went in. D:
 

xj0hnx

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Right, that's the impression I had since before I posted the video; the raid took place early morning in the dark, the video of the building intact was taken during the day, and the fire happened after nightfall.

Except they are ten hours ahead of us, night was beginning to fall as you were typing that.
 

Thump553

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Looks like you can add Dem poster child Cindy Sheehan to the list of "deathers". And if I remember correctly, Dems also started the "birther" movement. Hmmmm.

I read her statement in this mornings paper. She certainly has gone off the deep end. She and Plumber Joe (or whatever his name is) should get together and slink off into the sunset, neither ever to be heard from again.