Will there be birthers, but for bin laden?

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Macamus Prime

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If Obama did it; every white racist will deny it or question it.

So, yes. There will be birthers,.. or rather deathers.
 
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So what proof do any of us have other then the POTUS telling us he is dead? Im at work now and pretty limited to what i can view. Are their pictures or videos?

I sure hope he is dead but you have to admit they are playing this right into the conspiracy theorists hands.
 
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EagleKeeper

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I am sure that the Seals collected enough information to be able to prove their actions.

If they had not succeeded; there would have been no need to publicized that raid.
 

GuitarDaddy

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So what proof do any of us have other then the POTUS telling us he is dead? Im at work now and pretty limited to what i can view. Are their pictures or videos?

I sure hope he is dead but you have to admit they are playing this right into the conspiracy theorists hands.


There is supposedly photographic, video evidence and DNA confirmation. I'm sure if you ask nicely enough they will schedule you a private screening :)

Otherwize you will probably have to wait on the evidence, as Obama will withhold it for a year or so to give the conspiracy theorists plenty of time to make proper fools of themselves then drop the evidence on them. You know, kinda like he did the birthers:D
 

kylebisme

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The only question is, how much money is there to be made selling this as a conspiracy?
Not nearly as much as will continue to be made off the selling the "bin Laden was behind 9/11" conspiracy.

Word is they already buried him at sea. Apparently the muslim religion calls for fast burial, but why at sea I dont know.
Assuming it really was him, then likely just to insure there will be "birthers, but for bin Laden," coaxing people into dividing themselves over what ultimately is a rather insignificant issue as a distraction from far more important ones. For instance, few people care to acknowledge the fact that while we continue to occupy Afghanistan based on the claim that bin Laden was behind 9/11, our government never even managed to formally charge him for the attacks.

I hope they have some definitive proiof it was him or there is gonna be doubters (including me).
Apparently, the compound where this all went down has gone up in flames too, so it seems there may never be any real proof either way.
 
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sactoking

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Obama: We have confirmed through DNA analysis that the corpse is that of Osama bin Laden. After confirmation he was "buried at sea". This has been confirmed by top men.

Indiana Jones: Who?

Obama: TOP. MEN.
 

WHAMPOM

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This is how I see it going:

1% of this country will give Bush credit, downplay Obama's role.
1% of this country will praise Obama.
1% of this country will claim some conspiracy theory.
1% of this country will be vocally outraged by the three groups above.
96% of this country will be normal, and go about their normal lives, and not pay a moment's attention to the four groups above.

Just by reading this topic you can figure your 1%ers should be raised to 25% or 30%.
 

JEDIYoda

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my office mate thinks its a scam

Hell even with the proof that we have Kylebisme will claim it`s a scam.....

In fact Kylebisme will find a link claiming that Osama was working at a Burger King in Detroit when this whole thing happenned...
 
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Nemesis 1

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If we had any evidence you were capable of rational thought, your opinion might actually carry some weight.

Well there is more proof of me having rational thoughts than YOU. I been pretty much right on about the events of 2010/2011.
2010 was the last chance to cross the line drawn in the earth much as Travis did in texas.

2011 . I referr to the year of river tears and its only started . Show me were you have ever been right about anything . You will lose your spirit soon enough but you likely deny having a spirit in yourself.
 

Perknose

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There are people out there who deny that Obama's re-election campaign isn't dead as well. Of COURSE there will be deniers.

I've got a minimum $500 that says Obama wins re-election against anyone in 2012.

Care to put your money where your mouth is?
 

Perknose

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The immediate burial at sea thing makes a lot of sense - don't leave any sort of marked grave out there to be used as a symbol. But I hope that they first took thorough photographic and video evidence, and maybe even kept a hand or foot to bring back to the U.S. for the DNA match.

Unless it was a cover story to mollify Muslims on the swift burial point.

If it is, and they kept the body anyway, I'm all for it and the cover story.
 

Fear No Evil

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I've got a minimum $500 that says Obama wins re-election against anyone in 2012.

Care to put your money where your mouth is?

Wow. That's a daring bet. A sitting President will get re-elected.. :rolleyes: Kind of like making a bet that the Detroit Lions will come in last place. Start offering up some odds and maybe we'll talk.. or a point spread.. :) Or maybe a promise that you won't let the mods ban me until Nov 2012.. :wub: You know, something actually WORTH it. Of course I tried to make a bet with you on the Phillies last year and you called me names. :'(
 

xj0hnx

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Apparently, the compound where this all went down has gone up in flames too, so it seems there may never be any real proof either way.

That video is also claiming that Pakistan helped, I wouldn't take anything in that video seriously, of course, you aren't known for your critical thinking. Video of some building on fire ...wow, must surely be the compound.

It's funny that people think that the most elite forces in, and leadership of America, owe them any proof of anything. You can bet you ass that between those that actually matter there is definitive proof a plenty, too bad for Joe Blow internet conspiracy theorist the real world doesn't care what he thinks.
 
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kylebisme

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That video is also claiming that Pakistan helped
Timestamp and quote?

Video of some building on fire ...wow, must surely be the compound.
I've seen fire at the compound mentioned elsewhere, the NYT for instance reported "Nearby residents who spoke by phone said a part of the house caught fire after the attack," and have yet to see any officials disputing those reports. Regardless, I said "Apparently, the compound where this all went down has gone up in flames," because I'm not rightly in a position to know for sure.

It's funny that people think that the most elite forces in, and leadership of America, owe them any proof of anything.
Yeah, anyone who has studied history knows that America was founded on the notion that commoners should unquestioningly submit to those deemed elite. Oh wait... that isn't right at all, is it?
 
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xj0hnx

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Time stamp and quote?

....um, watch your own stupid video?

I've seen fire at the compound mentioned elsewhere,the NYT for instance reported "Nearby residents who spoke by phone said a part of the house caught fire after the attack," and have yet to see any officials disputing those reports. Regardless, I said "Apparently, the compound where this all went down has gone up in flames," because I'm not rightly in a position to know for sure.
And? They blew up the helicopter that had mechanical troubles, pretty sure that the fire spread a little, but since we have seen video footage of the inside, AND outside, of the compound since the raid, it didn't "burn to the ground". Seriously dude, there are reports from right in front of the compound about the raid.
 

drebo

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Does buried at sea mean something more than what the words imply? Why the fuck would we throw this man's body away?!

So that we can never, ever question what they claim happened.

Burying in ground means he could be exhumed. Cremated means we could analyze the ashes.

Buried at sea means the body is gone, 100%, never to be found again.

I'm not saying that I don't believe he's actually dead...but I don't believe this will change anything. We're no safer today than we were yesterday, and our government isn't doing anything today that they weren't doing yesterday to change that. The wars aren't going to magically end and people aren't going to magically come home because this guy's dead.

Net effect on the world = 0.

Also, I find the timing of this story rather suspect.
 

kylebisme

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....um, watch your own stupid video?
I watched the video before I posted it, and twice since, but I've not found anything in it to support your claim. Can you not quote anything from it to do so either?

since we have seen video footage of the inside, AND outside, of the compound since the raid, it didn't "burn to the ground".
Who are you quoting there? Regardless, what I've of the compound not on fire since the raid looks like the same building on fire in the video I posted, which suggests that a the building went up in flames after the former videos were recorded.
 

Zebo

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The whole story sounds fishy to me. Fist of all Osama living in a high profile mansion as opposed to in the fundy hood so to speak, i doubt it. Next the reports have been he's been dead for years. Then Kill orders for someone who could give valuable intel? If you're willing to kill him surley you have no problem letting the CIA get to work on him with drugs pliers and a blowtorch then killing him. Then Obama is going into election mode and this takes some heat off him.

Oh yeah buried at sea lolz.
 
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xj0hnx

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I watched the video before I posted it, and twice since, but I've not found anything in it to support your claim. Can you not quote anything from it to do so either?

You must be fucking blind. 0:38, top left in blue with white letters "Pakistan helped US kill Osama: Obama"

Who are you quoting there? Regardless, what I've of the compound not on fire since the raid looks like the same building on fire in the video I posted, which suggests that a the building went up in flames after the former videos were recorded.
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ABC News has already got video from inside the compound that has supposedly gone up in flames. It also appears to be intact from this photo taken outside the compound. Finally, more than one person accidentally live tweeted the entire event. It happened.

Do you not even know what you type here? I quoted ...you. Plenty of video of the building intact afterwards throughout the day. Considering that the raid took place early morning (dark), and you linked video it's dark, than the building would have to have been set on fire early this afternoon once night fell on the other side of the planet because it was still standing all day during the broadcast.

I am not disputing that there was a fire, of course there was, they blew up a helicopter, I am saying your conspiracy that they burned it down to hide something is as ridiculous as your 9/11 theories.
 
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werepossum

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We buried him at sea. Now it's time for some enterprising young chap to set up a pay site with an underwater web cam. Watch Usama Bin Laden get eaten by crabs, just $99 for a lifetime membership! Full HD available for a nominal upcharge!
 

Jhhnn

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Bin Laden is kinda like Saddam Hussein in that he knew too much about the past. With Hussein, his trial was structured in such a way as to prevent him speaking on other matters, and with Bin Laden, well, the possibility was avoided entirely.

Former friends who turn against us are more dangerous than people who were enemies from the start, and are dealt with accordingly.

Anybody doubting that Bin Laden is dead has rocks for brains- the damage to American credibility would be devastating if he turned up alive, so they've gone to great lengths to be certain, right down to DNA testing.

And anybody who thinks the events were timed for domestic politics is even dumber.