Will the next stimulus bill be passed by March 14? And, when will this end?

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Mai72

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Seems that there is some in-house fighting between centerist and progressive democrats. Looks like Joe Manchin will be a thorn in the side of Joe Biden's stimulus bill. Democrats need everyone on board, because if one person falls off than this bill is dead. I seriously doubt that there will be any Republicans who will agree to the spending in this bill. And finally,. my only concern is when will this end? We can''t just keep on giving people unemployment benefits and stimulus checks forever. We need to create good paying jobs that don't involve much skill. I just don't see that happening though.

I also think the $15 an hour federal mandate is going to be a big problem.

 
woolfe9998

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The minimum wage increase was already axed by the Senate parliamentarian, was it not?
 
crashtech

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There was a 1.8T bill on offer back in October. It's understandable that Pelosi could not give Trump a win so close to the election. What's inexplicable at this point is why this hasn't been fast-tracked with Dems in full power. The delay lends credence to the notion that Dems are no longer the worker's party.
 
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emperus

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crashtech said:
There was a 1.8T bill on offer back in October. It's understandable that Pelosi could not give Trump a win so close to the election. What's inexplicable at this point is why this hasn't been fast-tracked with Dems in full power. The delay lends credence to the notion that Dems are no longer the worker's party.
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Wut? o_O
 
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emperus

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crashtech said:
Sorry, is there something factually inaccurate in my post? I mean, other than my supposition regarding what Dems stand for at present.
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It's not the topline number in a proposal, it's what the numbers actually break down to. Compare what that proposal had in it vs. what this one has. 2.) How do you think the Dems could have pushed this any faster?
 
ivwshane

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crashtech said:
Sorry, is there something factually inaccurate in my post? I mean, other than my supposition regarding what Dems stand for at present.
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What was inaccurate was your claim that Pelosi couldn't give trump a win before the election. Its false because the Democrats already passed a bill in the house and it was the Republican controlled senate that was the issue.

I'm curious, where do you get your news from?


www.cnbc.com

House passes $2.2 trillion Democratic coronavirus stimulus bill

www.cnbc.com www.cnbc.com
 
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compcons

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crashtech said:
Sorry, is there something factually inaccurate in my post? I mean, other than my supposition regarding what Dems stand for at present.
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Your entire previous post was based on some bullshit premise. Odd that you diminish this "supposition" in a later post when it fizzled out. Perhaps you can take this small data set and reconsider the facts and just maybe realize that you are being lied to when your news sources are telling you it was just a conspiracy against Trump. It wasn't. As the evidence now clearly shows.

Maybe a little more thoughtful analysis and less trust in crappy information sources would serve you better in life. Or you can just double-down and heap more conspiracy on top of the pile to help justify your feelings. A true conservative would go with the latter...
 
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crashtech

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brycejones said:
Why are you ignoring that the house passed a bill that was ignored by the senate? The win was there for Trump if he wanted it.
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I may possibly be ignorant. But none of the assertions in my original post have actually been addressed.
 
crashtech

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Why hasn't something been passed, and how does this delay not lend credence to the notion that Dems are a party of the elite?
 
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crashtech

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ivwshane said:
Nice deflection. You’ll note that you didn’t bother addressing the fact that you were corrected on your original assertion, I wonder why that is.
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This has no meaning. It's only another attempt to categorize and demonize. I might respond to honest interrogation, if you tried it.
 
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ivwshane

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crashtech said:
This has no meaning. It's only another attempt to categorize and demonize. I might respond to honest interrogation, if you tried it.
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Lol traitor. Go back to parlor and talk about who can suck trumps dick the best.
 
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If you all were honest you could see the faults in your system simply by the way in which dissent is dealt with. But honesty is being selected against.
 
ivwshane

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Nice! And a splash of deflection as well! What other right wing trait can he use to prove his loyalty to the trump cult? I’m sure we’ll find out in a minute...
 
crashtech

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ivwshane said:
Nice! And a splash of deflection as well! What other right wing trait can he use to prove his loyalty to the trump cult? I’m sure we’ll find out in a minute...
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What? Have you added anything to this thread at all? Do you even care what it's about?
Why hasn't something been passed now that Dems own the federal government? Can you present anything that indicates they give a damn about the common worker, other than empty lip service at this point?
 
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woolfe9998 said:
The minimum wage increase was already axed by the Senate parliamentarian, was it not?
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BUT.... many liberals in congress DO NOT like that this happened. The elimination of the wage increase from the Biden bill. THEY expect the parliamentarian to be over-ruled or for VP Harris to object and reject then over-rule the parliamentarian ( as I understand it). So here is where we are at... with the wage having been removed, and with many democrats in the congress NOT liking this move, I fully expect those democrats to NOT support the stripped-down bill because THEY INSIST on that 15 dollar wage to be INCLUDED. So, don't be surprised if those determined democrats are willing to derail the entire train off the tracks simply because THE CAN NOT get their way. Seriously.... this 15 dollar wage MEANS A LOT to some of those democrats AND they have been working on this wage increase for YEARS and YEARS. They do not think of this as a wage increase, they think of this as WAGE EQUALITY. Wage equality, for those people who have suffered existing on a poverty wage for years while the top 1% have enjoyed their incomes going up and up and up administration after administration. So.... DO NOT underestimate the determination AND PURE ANGER over the wage increase having been stripped out of the stimulus. THEY ARE PISSED and they will absolutely BLOCK this bill, ALL OF IT, if they can not get their way with the wage. Just a warning, mind you, that when this all falls apart in the house and democrats wonder WHAT THE F...ing HELL HAPPENED, now you know. And all the while as republicans in congress rejoice at the complete incompetence of the democratic party get anything done.

PS. Welcome to being a democrat.... :mad:
 
woolfe9998

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crashtech said:
This has no meaning. It's only another attempt to categorize and demonize. I might respond to honest interrogation, if you tried it.
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OK, here is your honest interrogation. You made this specific factual claim in your first post in this thread:

There was a 1.8T bill on offer back in October.
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Please provide some proof of that assertion.
 
crashtech

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woolfe9998 said:
OK, here is your honest interrogation. You made this specific factual claim in your first post in this thread:



Please provide some proof of that assertion.
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Okay. I suppose we live or die by "approved sources" these days. Here's one that matches my recollection of the time:
heavy.com

COVID-19 Stimulus Package: Pelosi Rejects White House's $1.8 Trillion Proposal

Where are things at with a second COVID-19 stimulus relief plan? On October 10, House Speaker Nancy Pelosi rejected a plan by the White House for a $1.8 trillion proposal.
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