Will the future be almost meatless?

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whm1974

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In real live no, I would have to be starving with no other food source and the person(s) I'm eating already dead and not murdered.
 

woolfe9998

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Nothing is completely clean.

Yup. I once did some litigation related work which involved reading through thousands of lab reports on the contents of fast food burgers. They all contained things like bug parts, rodent feces, metals, arsenic, etc. The quantities were in the parts per million or parts per billion. It all met government safety standards.
 

woolfe9998

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OK reading about the rising resource cost of raising large numbers of food animals(aka Factory Farming) and the fact that is not sustainable for the world's growing population in the long run, I'm now wondering if most people in First World nations, especially the US will forced by simple economics to adapt almost meatless diets in the future?

I'm thinking that the prices of meat will skyrocket to the point that only the rich can afford to eat meat regularly, and even they will be forced to cut back on consumption to some degree. Even the offal that only poor folks will eat will be considered delicacies as headcheese is starting to become.

I'm also thinking that the main protein sources will end up being something like Tofurky and Quorn for most folks. Or maybe the lab grown meat for what's left of middle class in the United States.

I'm I being too dire about the future?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cultured_meat
 

whm1974

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Yup. I once did some litigation related work which involved reading through thousands of lab reports on the contents of fast food burgers. They all contained things like bug parts, rodent feces, metals, arsenic, etc. The quantities were in the parts per million or parts per billion. It all met government safety standards.
Good thing I cut way back on fast food. Well for cost reasons anyway.
 

woolfe9998

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Good thing I cut way back on fast food. Well for cost reasons anyway.

Actually, the lab reports didn't concern me much. The thing about toxicology is that it isn't whether something is present. It's about how much there is.

What DID bother me, however, was that I did this work in relation to litigation over an e-coli outbreak at Jack-in-the-Box back in the 90's which resulted in a few kids dying. I read through thousands of incident reports, where people called into the company's hotline to complain about getting sick after eating their food. The incident reports contained a database field which, oddly enough, mixed the foods that were eaten all together with the symptoms they described. Like this: "jumbo jack, projectile vomiting, seasoned curly fries, bloody diarrhea" etc. etc. I've never eaten at Jack-in-the-Box since. I just could never get those associations out of my mind.
 
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Good thing I cut way back on fast food. Well for cost reasons anyway.
It's pretty much any food, insects and rodents have been the enemies of humans and clean food before we walked out of Africa. Unless you use insane levels of protection including pesticides and radiation, you're not going to have food that's bug/rodent free.
 

bradly1101

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My family always criticizes me for the immorality of eating chicken (the way they are raised). The only animal protein they eat are "cage-free" eggs and wild-caught fish. But is it moral to kill a fish that's just trying to live out its life in nature?

The only problem in this issue (as well as so many, many others) is human overpopulation (I know, I know, then why don't I kill myself?).
 

sandorski

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Nutrients derived from Insects would be ok. Just as long as they give it some funky name.
 
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Honey Roasted crunchy roaches!
Battered pupae poppers!
Cheese curds and larva quesadillas!
Glazed au gratin grubs
Crispy Crickets!
Stewed locusts and maggots
 

zinfamous

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considering that our future is rapidly heading towards brainless, why would we even need meat?
 

whm1974

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considering that our future is rapidly heading towards brainless, why would we even need meat?
I don't think it's going to that bad, although a large portion of Americans have become brainless considering the Trump is POTUS.
 

J.Wilkins

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Doing LCHPMF which is my adaptation of the diet has done me a world of good.

I mainly just eat loads of meat and use whey for all of it's benefits.
 

pcgeek11

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Doing LCHPMF which is my adaptation of the diet has done me a world of good.

I mainly just eat loads of meat and use whey for all of it's benefits.

What in the hell is LCHPMF?

I know what LCHF is Low Carb High Fat. What is PM?
 

ch33zw1z

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my guess s low carb, high protein, medium fat...

as a gluten free consumer, i needs the proteinz.
 

NAC4EV

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North Koreans are eating fake meat!!!!

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ch33zw1z

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read the link. its pressed soy dregs, aka whats left after they make soy bean oil. its used as a wrap for rice and covered in chili sauce. doesnt sound too bad, better than tree bark
 

whm1974

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read the link. its pressed soy dregs, aka whats left after they make soy bean oil. its used as a wrap for rice and covered in chili sauce. doesnt sound too bad, better than tree bark
So it is basically chili flavored animal feed then? Is tree bark even edible?