Will science ever wipe out organized religion?

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LtPage1

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This is the most ridiculous, ignorant, idiotic troll of a question I've ever had the great misfortune of reading.
 

agentbad

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I guess if science wipes out all stupid people than we will have to find other ways of occupying our time.
 

zinfamous

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Originally posted by: nkgreen
I swear we need a dead horse emoticon.


:thumbsup:

to summarize all of the threads ever started with such a question:

You're wrong!
No, you're wrong.
You're an idiot!
You're just ignorant. You totally don't see how you're contradicting yourself!
Stop being an ass.
F*** off you worthless troll. Go troll somewhere else you stupid trolling troll!
God invented science...so there!
You are teh stupid.
ad nauseam....
 

TravisT

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At this point, I somewhat consider athiesm a religion of its own. While I agree that they would reverse their opinion if God was proven to exist, at this point, nothing is proven either way. So it requires an element of faith to say that God does not exist.
 

JMag

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Originally posted by: TravisT
At this point, I somewhat consider athiesm a religion of its own. While I agree that they would reverse their opinion if God was proven to exist, at this point, nothing is proven either way. So it requires an element of faith to say that God does not exist.

Yeah I have faith that the flying spaghetti monster doesn't exist either. Faith is jut a word used by zealots to help affirm their belief system and really has no implication on reality.
 

pontifex

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as far as i'm concerned, we have enough scientific proof that religion should be gone now.

 

Vic

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Originally posted by: JMag
If God created the universe, who created God?
What existed before the Big Bang? What's north of the North Pole?

Originally posted by: judasmachine
The christians by eliminating all other gods, have helped me eliminate one more. It isn't science, it's the sheer unbelievability that will chip away at religion. That is to ignore the outrageous actions of church leaders that do more damage to religion than atheists could dream of...

Why is it that Apollo, Krishna, Odin, Centeotl, and any other perposterous, and Jehovah not?
What makes you think those gods are different gods just because you and some others (the atheists and the fundies) have given them different names? Does God spelt backwards mean perro?

Originally posted by: JMag
Originally posted by: TravisT
At this point, I somewhat consider athiesm a religion of its own. While I agree that they would reverse their opinion if God was proven to exist, at this point, nothing is proven either way. So it requires an element of faith to say that God does not exist.
Yeah I have faith that the flying spaghetti monster doesn't exist either. Faith is jut a word used by zealots to help affirm their belief system and really has no implication on reality.
I await your scientific proof that the FSM doesn't exist. In the meantime, the use of reductio ad absurdum in this case is a logical fallacy. Your personal preferences about what is or is not absurd have no meaning in an argument about our universe which is, in real scientific truth, far more absurd than we have ever and could possibly ever imagine.

Originally posted by: Fingolfin269
When all religions are wiped out due to science then science will become the new relgion.
That's already happening. As a religion is an institution of unquestionable faith though, this new religion is not science per se, but the religion of pseudoscience.
 

JungleMan1

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Originally posted by: 6000SUX
You are playing semantic games that are ultimately unavailing. Among your tricks is using the word "faith" in two different ways. Religious faith is the type that believes without proof; when a scientist has "faith" in another's findings, he is merely placing confidence or trust in those findings (which are repeatable, after all). I am not supporting your point.
That's fine, I don't need your support to know that I'm right. Science cannot be purely logic-based since there are no absolute truths in science.
 

TheDrake

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I am familar with many religions myself as I made it a priority of mine to study them all in order to find truth. As I am sure it has been said in here before, Science only confirms what the Christian Bible says. The Bible itself isnt written as a scientific description of accounts but with a lot of what the Bible says Science has confirmed. Science isnt new by any means nor is religious views. over the course of thousands of years there isnt really any difference as far as science and religion... Infact all these beliefs about no god (atheism) or about common-sense beliefs all go back thousands of years.

The fact of the matter is that science itself requires faith. For example, we take into consideration that light will always travel at 186,000 miles per second and that gravity is always 9.8 m/s^2. Now all scientists say that those two numbers will be the same indefinitely right? How can they prove that? Just because its been proven until this day does that mean its going to be the same tomorrow? Thats what faith is! To believe something that cant be proven. You cant prove that the speed of light tomorrow will be 186,000 miles per second or if you want to get technical 186,282.397 miles per second. Now just because you cant prove that tomorrow or next year does that mean you dismiss it? Of course not! But you still believe in it and that takes faith.

If you really did a study on Christianity and Science you would see how they work together and compliment each other.
 

gsellis

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Stupid question. Background, my dad went from working at Princeton on Able/Baker shot (Hydrogen bomb) test animals to being a priest.

Oh, and just look at the treadmill thread. Science cannot beat those who religiously disbelieve in physics (yes, it will fly). ;)
 

miniMUNCH

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The treadmill thread is evidence enough of why ATOT's perception of religion is completely irrelevant.

Way too many babbling idiots on ATOT.
 

zinfamous

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Originally posted by: miniMUNCH
The treadmill thread is evidence enough of why ATOT's perception of religion is completely irrelevant.

Way too many babbling idiots on ATOT.

you do mean science, right?
 

gsellis

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Originally posted by: zinfamous
Originally posted by: miniMUNCH
The treadmill thread is evidence enough of why ATOT's perception of religion is completely irrelevant.

Way too many babbling idiots on ATOT.

you do mean science, right?
Answering for him... Their perception of science is screwed up, so now you expect them to comment logically on religion? ;)
 

3NF

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Originally posted by: miniMUNCH
The treadmill thread is evidence enough of why ATOT's perception of religion is completely irrelevant.

Way too many babbling idiots on ATOT.

ATOT is the source for all that is right in the world :confused:

 

sao123

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Originally posted by: 3NF
Originally posted by: miniMUNCH
The treadmill thread is evidence enough of why ATOT's perception of religion is completely irrelevant.

Way too many babbling idiots on ATOT.

ATOT is the source for all that is right in the world :confused:


ATOT is the narcisistic capital of the world.
 

Vic

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The only proof one needs of human stupidity is that people stop their cars on railroad crossings behind intersections while waiting for the lights to change.
 

Crono

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Science, without a doubt, is dependent on faith. Most things in life are, and science is not an exception. Those who claim infallibility of science in and theory, law, or hypothesis are either ignorant of what science is or have turned science into a personal religion. Theories, laws, and hypotheses that are demonstrable through verifiable and repeatable experiments can usually, but not always, be accepted as truth, but even then you cannot be sure that an experiment wasn't affected by extraneous variables or human error. That is why scientific papers and discoveries always need to be taken with a grain of salt. The entire history of science is littered with discarded theories, flawed experiments, falsified work, and revised hypotheses. You cannot put absolute faith in science, and any reasonable, actual scientist will tell you the same.

Science is a great tool, but one that must be understood truly and must be used carefully. For anyone claiming science is absolute truth, read and learn the definition of the scientific method before you spew out prideful statement based on ignorance. You can't call Christians idiots for disbelieving in evolution or believing in a young earth if you actually know how often scientists vigorously believed in the truth of one thing which later was shown to be wrong.
 

blackllotus

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Originally posted by: Crono
The entire history of science is littered with discarded theories, flawed experiments, falsified work, and revised hypotheses. You cannot put absolute faith in science, and any reasonable, actual scientist will tell you the same.

You can have faith in the scientific process as a whole while still not having faith in all scientific theories out there.

Originally posted by: Crono
You can't call Christians idiots for disbelieving in evolution or believing in a young earth if you actually know how often scientists vigorously believed in the truth of one thing which later was shown to be wrong.

People who disbelieve evolution or believe the young earth theory would still be idiots regardless of whether or not they happen to be correct, because they have no factual basis for either of those two beliefs.