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Will religion ever cease to exist?
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Mephibosheth
Member
You are correct. If the "hateful, vengeful god" you speak of truly did exist, he would have wiped humanity off the face of the earth long ago.
Mephibosheth
Member
Then you refer to "ritual" which can and often is a part of "religion" but is not "religion" in and of itself.
Still, I am interested in hearing how you personally define religion.
sorry for being unclear with my defintion of 'religion'
i do know the defintion of religion in the dictionary.
ie. I believe in a higher power, but I am not religious. I don't pray(much?), I don't go to a house of worship, I don't follow any transcript as it is the word of God (pun?)
i do know the defintion of religion in the dictionary.
ie. I believe in a higher power, but I am not religious. I don't pray(much?), I don't go to a house of worship, I don't follow any transcript as it is the word of God (pun?)
Mephibosheth
Member
perhaps it is my point that requires clarification. If so, I'll be happy to expand.
but I'm guessing you have never really faced hardship in your life. [/quote]
And you would be incorrect, but it would be interesting to hear why you would think so?
It isn't about being controlled.[/quote]
What isn't? Religion or true spirituality?
Do study some psychology and the inner workings of the human mind, it's fascinating really.
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I agree. Perhaps, in your studies, you've run across examples of those who make judgements regarding others based on very limited information. If so, what were the typical results?
Mephibosheth
Member
Mephibosheth
Member
What I'm getting at is this:
Religion is a man made institution by which several outcomes are possibile:
1) Man's attempt at a relationship with God.
2) Man's attempt to control the masses.
3) Man's attempt to sooth his conscience.
4) Man's attempt to socialize
The common thread in all of the above is that all originate with man. God did not create religion. This is not to say that a relationship with God is not possible (it most certainly is possible), it is merely stating that "religion" is more often than not, misguided in one way or another and does not necessarily lead to a true relationship with God.
Mephiboshteh (damn that's hard to spell) 🙂,
My point is the human mind wants/needs that faith and is "most times" more emotionally heathly than the alternative. I have seen very few people without faith in later life that are happy - most times they seem miserable, pessimistic and lost (like much of this board). Notice that I said "most" and not "all"
My studies are nothing more than life and being around others coupled with some college psychology and a whole lot of discovery channel.
But one surely cannot deny the role that religion/purpose plays in mental health?
My point is the human mind wants/needs that faith and is "most times" more emotionally heathly than the alternative. I have seen very few people without faith in later life that are happy - most times they seem miserable, pessimistic and lost (like much of this board). Notice that I said "most" and not "all"
My studies are nothing more than life and being around others coupled with some college psychology and a whole lot of discovery channel.
But one surely cannot deny the role that religion/purpose plays in mental health?
Mephibosheth
Member
Thanks. I believe the butchery began when I tried to respond to several points, moving and pasting quote marks. It may crop up in a few other responses. I do believe, however, that I now have it under control. And I'm looking for a 12 step for quote butchers.
So I have that going for me...
Mephibosheth
Member
themusgrat
Golden Member
I believe in God. So make fun of me. How can you look at anything, like a blade of grass, and think its just a mistake? And what is there to believe in besides a higher power? And just because God allows us to do whatever doesn't mean that he's cruel. He lets you be nice to your friend, if you want, of shoot him, if you want. Of course there are consequences, such as going to jail. And you say, "well going to jail is completely us, it has nothing to do with God. You don't really think that your God is absolutely in control, do you?" And I say, yes. What kind of a God would he be if his control was not absolute? It is just on a different level than that that we usually think of. Freedom and life are gifts and priviledges. If you really want to know about what you are talking about, then read Aristotle's Metaphisica and the Bible. Those are pretty much the opposites of spirituality, and will give you an idea of the thoughts of men much smarter than you or I. And itf you really really want to disprove my ideas about God, disprove C. S. Lewis's Mere Christianity. No, religion will never cease to exist, because God made it that way. And yes, this is a bit "narrow minded," but it is better than being "open minded" and accepting anything that sounds good.
kaishaku72
Member
The answer is "hell no", obviously.
...but it will evolve as it has so far
- from dogmatic system of punishment for sins to some broader formula that simply helps to live fuller life.
That explains why Buddhism is so popular in countries that were, traditionally, Christian. Although Christianity itself evolves big time.
I guess most people need religion whatever their sub-twenties declarations say.
- from dogmatic system of punishment for sins to some broader formula that simply helps to live fuller life.
That explains why Buddhism is so popular in countries that were, traditionally, Christian. Although Christianity itself evolves big time.
I guess most people need religion whatever their sub-twenties declarations say.
BurnItDwn
Lifer
Sure, I'll take a crack at it.
Above the quote very much out of order the sentences are. Appears as if translated multiple times it was. Have any proof or evidence to back up the references to a god it does not. Crafted very well was the above quote. Fictional is the quote above. Foolish are the blind leading the blind.
BurnItDwn
Lifer
Ohh and my answer to the OP .......
I think religion will probably cease to exist in the future, only because I think humanity will eventually be extinct. (perhaps 100000 years, perhaps 10000000 years)
After the muslims, jews, and christians duke it out in some massive nuclear holy war, where all of humanity is wiped out by its various "gods", there will no longer be religion. Did man create god, or did god create man. Some people believe one, some believe the other, yet others are too confused to just pick one.
It is my belief that man created god, and that man's belief in god will ultimatly lead to our undoing. A holy war of fundies battling fundies on an unholy scale could, and might, cause worldwide extinction of man.
Of course it is possible that eventually the fundies that follow the major religions stated above in a very literal and closed minded way will learn to grow up and respect one another.....
There's also the possibillity of other things causing extinction of mankind in the long run.
And if we somehow survive for BILLIONS of years, eventually the Sun will explode and we will all be wiped out.
I think religion will probably cease to exist in the future, only because I think humanity will eventually be extinct. (perhaps 100000 years, perhaps 10000000 years)
After the muslims, jews, and christians duke it out in some massive nuclear holy war, where all of humanity is wiped out by its various "gods", there will no longer be religion. Did man create god, or did god create man. Some people believe one, some believe the other, yet others are too confused to just pick one.
It is my belief that man created god, and that man's belief in god will ultimatly lead to our undoing. A holy war of fundies battling fundies on an unholy scale could, and might, cause worldwide extinction of man.
Of course it is possible that eventually the fundies that follow the major religions stated above in a very literal and closed minded way will learn to grow up and respect one another.....
There's also the possibillity of other things causing extinction of mankind in the long run.
And if we somehow survive for BILLIONS of years, eventually the Sun will explode and we will all be wiped out.
haha nice. also, "i would rather live a life believing in God, then die and find out He does not exist; than to live a life without believing in Him, then die and find out He does exist."
the question for most of you probably is, "what do I have to gain here and now?"
everything.
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