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Red Squirrel

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Maybe I am doing it wrong, but when comparison shopping on a phone or tablet completely sucks vs using a pc/laptop...searching for an item on amazon or best buy so you can compare different options is a major PITA when doing that same exact search on a PC/laptop...

I was ordering food with a friend and he insisted to just do it on his phone and there was something he kept doing near the end that caused the entire process to have to start over, it was a real pita. An hour later I'm like "let's just do it on my computer" and we had the food ordered in like 5 minutes lol. There was some kind of 10% discount if you use the app, well if time is worth money we basically lost out on that.
 
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IronWing

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Maybe I am doing it wrong, but when comparison shopping on a phone or tablet completely sucks vs using a pc/laptop...searching for an item on amazon or best buy so you can compare different options is a major PITA when doing that same exact search on a PC/laptop...
Google and Amazon both return very different results on a phone than on a PC. Google on the phone is pretty much useless.
 

lxskllr

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Maybe fake your user agent. My stuff looks about the same site to site, but typing sucks.
 

spacejamz

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Maybe fake your user agent. My stuff looks about the same site to site, but typing sucks.
I wasn't even talking about the results, just the experience of scrolling through results and going back and forth between the search results and the individual product results...this whole process completely sucks on a mobile device compared to a PC/laptop.

after thinking about this, it is the keyboard/mouse input that makes the PC/Laptop experience so much better....phone keyboards and finger dragging suck lol
 
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mindless1

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A phone works just fine, once you mirror it to a larger monitor, attach a keyboard and mouse, and find a way to boost the performance by 10X while also having more control over blocking ads, scripts, etc.

It's the argument of the impoverished, or the mentally deficient, that if they can barely get things done, then it must be just as good or even better than a PC.

A mobile computer is just a supplement to your hardware, to be able to leverage everything else you have remotely, and have the mobile cell radio to RX/TX. If it's all you have, it's an ironic state where you feel modern but in many ways are living a little closer to the stone age in how well you can interface with information and contribute.

Contribute doesn't have to mean some kind of burden, but also just not looking like an idiot slacker because it's too burdensome to write complete posts on a forum because your mental block makes you think that the slacker attitude of whatever you are willing to peck out on a phone, is as good when it's just bullshit compared to someone making same effort with a better interface provided by a PC.

I see it all the time. Idiots, who try to pretend that since it's such a burden to write much on their phone. then suddenly if it exceeded their 15 second attention span, they must have made an adequate effort. That usually equates to broken english and less than 200 characters.

LOOK AT HOW LONG MY REPLY WAS! Why? Because i can type crazy fast on a PC keyboard so it's not a burden to do so. People who choose to interact with a slow form of inputting a reply and so that causes a decrease in the quality of their reply, should be considered retarded in the true sense of the word rather than some insult as some have used the word historically.

I am not knocking everyone who uses a phone or tablet to post on the internet, just when it results in very short, hard to translate messages, which is happening more and more these days.


Your life, your choices, but expect to be judged based on those choices. If it's too hard for you to interact with others because of other choice/excuses you make, that's more like a subjective disrespect towards others than anything else.

Don't make excuses for quality communication. That's all we really have. [/rant]

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My Head of HR came to me saying that a certain file wasn't opening on her PC. It was a text file with a different extension so it needed to be opened manually with Notepad. I told her that and she said, "But my phone opened it immediately!". Before I could say anything, she goes, "Oh, I get it. SMARTphone! Duh!". At that moment, I was like, SMH. By the way, her IT guy gave her a Xeon workstation to check her email.
 

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Is Windows still a dumbass regarding opening files? Linux does it by mime type, so if it can be read my an application it will be regardless of extension(which is also optional)
 

Red Squirrel

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Is Windows still a dumbass regarding opening files? Linux does it by mime type, so if it can be read my an application it will be regardless of extension(which is also optional)

TBH this is one thing I find annoying in Linux. I wish it went by file extension like Windows. I want .txt files to open with a simple file editor no matter what's in it, and .cpp .h .php .htm etc to open with Kate no matter what's in it. But instead it ignores extensions completely and depends what's in the file. If I want to open say a readme.txt file, I don't want it launching kate just for that, because I might already be working in it on code and just want to lookup some quick notes in a txt file and move it to the side. The only way to do that is to right click and open with, it's an extra step. I kind of get what they're trying to do but be nice if it was an option you can choose easily. Open by mime type or by extension.
 

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Is Windows still a dumbass regarding opening files? Linux does it by mime type, so if it can be read my an application it will be regardless of extension(which is also optional)
While I appreciate the point you're making, a plain text file doesn't necessarily have a mime type in it. Seems like windows does have a setting (or registry hack or tweak tools automate that?) to open unknown files with a default application like notepad... or better still a 3rd party notepad app that doesn't as easily choke on displaying larger files.
 

lxskllr

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If I want to open say a readme.txt file, I don't want it launching kate just for that, because I might already be working in it on code and just want to lookup some quick notes in a txt file and move it to the side.
It should open it up in a new tab in kate. You should be able to drag that tab off to create a new kate window if desired.
 

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TBH this is one thing I find annoying in Linux. I wish it went by file extension like Windows. I want .txt files to open with a simple file editor no matter what's in it, and .cpp .h .php .htm etc to open with Kate no matter what's in it. But instead it ignores extensions completely and depends what's in the file. If I want to open say a readme.txt file, I don't want it launching kate just for that, because I might already be working in it on code and just want to lookup some quick notes in a txt file and move it to the side. The only way to do that is to right click and open with, it's an extra step. I kind of get what they're trying to do but be nice if it was an option you can choose easily. Open by mime type or by extension.
You can, just open everything in vi. Worked for me for over a decade.
 

Red Squirrel

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You can, just open everything in vi. Worked for me for over a decade.
Coding in vi is a pita, don't care what anyone says. I only use it to do very small changes if I'm SSHed into a server. I want all code related extensions to open in kate no matter what is in them, even if empty, and .txt to open in a smaller editor. This is one area where Windows actually does it better. You can open the text files in kate but I always prefer a separate editor as I sometimes put notes or whatever in .txt file so I just want a small window off to the side. I have to right click and open with, in order to do that, it's just an extra step that's annoying.
 

spacejamz

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17" LG Gram is only 3 pounds, that's not bad.
I realize benchmarks are not the end all be all for ranking CPU's but my current 5950X ranks 55th on passmark and the 1360P (one of the LG Gram 17's on Amazon for $1400 uses it) is ranked 111th...that doesn't give me a warm and fuzzy for handling large RAW files. I had to upgrade from a i7 4790 a few years ago when I got a camera that did 60MB Raw files and it took 2 minutes to even open a single file... The 4790 is ranked 314th.
 
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I had to upgrade from a i7 4790 a few years ago when I got a camera that did 60MB Raw files and it took 2 minutes to even open a single file... The 4790 is ranked 314th.
What is the file opening time on your 5950X?

How much of an improvement is it over the 4790 in working with RAW files? 4x?
 

spacejamz

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What is the file opening time on your 5950X?

How much of an improvement is it over the 4790 in working with RAW files? 4x?

the 5950X is pretty much instant...the difference is insane...running 32GB of ram on both machines....not sure how much difference that made.