Will Obamacare be removed if a Repub becomes pres in 2016?

JEDI

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I doubt it.
repubs need 60% of the senate to prevent a filibuster by the Dems.

so they need to gain ~15 seats total between the 2014 + 2016 elections.

but if repubs get that, then I'm moving to the woods w/my guns and ammo for I fear they'll do something worse to the US than remove Obamacare during their time in charge.

far worse...
 

Zorba

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I doubt if republicans took over there would even still be a push to remove Obamacare. It is all just political at the moment. There may be a small insignificant change to it so they can claim they fixed it, but I seriously doubt they would actually do anything to repel it.
 
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They wouldn't remove it. ACA is simply a good shouting point for them. They have no real plan for health care and it would be suicidal to propose we go back to the old way and kick a few million people off insurance. Its easier and better to keep alive and bitch about it than plan out something better.
 

Moonbeam

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I would worry that if the country elected Republicans, it might also nuke itself to kill all the illegal aliens or that millions would die from stabbing themselves in the eyes or some other mass psychosis disaster.
 

JEDIYoda

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I would worry that if the country elected Republicans, it might also nuke itself to kill all the illegal aliens or that millions would die from stabbing themselves in the eyes or some other mass psychosis disaster.
Hell the Republican might declare war on anyone who didn`t vote Republican.....
I can see it all now--massive United States citizens internment camps.....or Education camps to educate the populace to vote Republican!!
 

Jhhnn

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They wouldn't remove it. ACA is simply a good shouting point for them. They have no real plan for health care and it would be suicidal to propose we go back to the old way and kick a few million people off insurance. Its easier and better to keep alive and bitch about it than plan out something better.

They have no real plan for anything, other than the ultra rich getting richer at the expense of everybody else.
 

thraashman

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Things that seem likely to happen if Republicans get the Presidency and control of both chambers of Congress with a filibuster proof majority.

- Blackwater gets a border control contract, is given full police powers, and shooting a non-American over the age of 5 is no longer a crime.

- Cold War part 2 over the Ukraine after we intentionally down a Russian passenger plane in retaliation.

-Healthcare insurance is made illegal for anyone with household income less than $100k/year. Law that hospitals must provide emergency service is repealed.

-Corporate tax rate reduced to zero. Corporations are given full immunity from all laws. Corporate executions of under performing employees begin.

- Taxes repealed for anyone with personal income over $250k/year. Taxes increased to 50% across the board for all other income brackets.

- Children born to the lower 47% of earners are auctioned off to the rich who don't want to bother with bearing children themselves. Children not auctioned off turned into Soylent Green.

- The environment is declared illegal.

- Nuke Iran, kill millions, WW3 begins

Sadly, while this is tongue in cheek, I'm probably shockingly close.
 

theeedude

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Repealing Obamacare would make GOP own the responsibility for problems with the US health care system. Republicans don't want to take responsibility for anything, so I don't see them doing it.
 

Nebor

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Yes. And the bill will be transported from the Senate to the Republican white house via flying pig.
 

zinfamous

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Jul 12, 2006
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This is basically the exact same thread that you already posted today.

Do you have brain damage, OP?
 

Anarchist420

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it will never be repealed because the GOP would rather have single payer than lower taxes and no medical regs.

so just plan for the collapse if you're smart enough
 

Moonbeam

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it will never be repealed because the GOP would rather have single payer than lower taxes and no medical regs.

so just plan for the collapse if you're smart enough

I am just a nobody. I don't see a collapse, am not smart enough to plan for one etc. All I can do is walk around and enjoy the songs of birds and the breeze. I remember a saying: Worry is a way to make yourself unnecessarily sick. A lot of people stay sick because they are afraid to be healthy. Who has escaped being told you don't deserve to be happy?
 

irishScott

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Sort of. They'd repeal it, make some cosmetic changes, make doubly sure the website worked and then reinstate it.
 

drebo

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It's corporatism...so, no, they won't repeal it. The current GOP loves corporatism as much as the current Democrat party.

On 99% of all issues, they're the same. This is one of them.
 

Spungo

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They wouldn't remove it. ACA is simply a good shouting point for them.

This. Politicians never fix the things destroyed by the previous administration. The 2008 bank crisis was almost entirely Clinton's fault because he repealed the Glass-Steagall act, which separates investment banking from commercial banking. Bush didn't fix any of it. Then Bush destroyed the constitution. Obama carries the torch of further destroying the constitution while not fixing the banking regulations. The next president will not fix any of the current problems. They'll go out of their way to break everything even more.

What makes American politics unique is how both major parties hold the belief that destroying the country is a noble goal. Literally. No joke.

Republicans try to "starve the beast" through a combination of tax cuts and increased spending, with the stated goal of bankrupting the country. As the theory goes, bankrupting the country would force the central bank to monetize the national debt (like they are right now), which would shatter global confidence in the dollar and lead to hyperinflation. After the hyperinflation, the republicans hope a charismatic Austrian fellow will come out of the woodwork and lead the country to create an empire that will last 1000 years.

Democrats use the "cloward-piven strategy" which attempts to overload the welfare system, bankrupt the country, and eventually lead to a communist revolution.

You can read more about the Republocrat plan to destroy America by following these links:
starve the beast strategy
cloward-piven strategy
 

Jhhnn

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This. Politicians never fix the things destroyed by the previous administration. The 2008 bank crisis was almost entirely Clinton's fault because he repealed the Glass-Steagall act, which separates investment banking from commercial banking. Bush didn't fix any of it. Then Bush destroyed the constitution. Obama carries the torch of further destroying the constitution while not fixing the banking regulations. The next president will not fix any of the current problems. They'll go out of their way to break everything even more.

What makes American politics unique is how both major parties hold the belief that destroying the country is a noble goal. Literally. No joke.

Republicans try to "starve the beast" through a combination of tax cuts and increased spending, with the stated goal of bankrupting the country. As the theory goes, bankrupting the country would force the central bank to monetize the national debt (like they are right now), which would shatter global confidence in the dollar and lead to hyperinflation. After the hyperinflation, the republicans hope a charismatic Austrian fellow will come out of the woodwork and lead the country to create an empire that will last 1000 years.

Democrats use the "cloward-piven strategy" which attempts to overload the welfare system, bankrupt the country, and eventually lead to a communist revolution.

You can read more about the Republocrat plan to destroy America by following these links:
starve the beast strategy
cloward-piven strategy

You're Alt-Stewie, right?
 

Spungo

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Cloward and Piven will never work until the 2nd amendment is repealed.

How so? Bankrupting the country by either republocrat method leads to the same thing - angry people. Angry people tend to polarize. People on the left advocate communism. People on the right advocate fascism. Having guns did not stop Hitler from rising to power; he was voted into power. Similarly, Lenin and the bolsheviks didn't really need guns. When you have the support of millions of hungry peasants wanting heads to roll, you don't need guns.

Remember that fascism and communism happen because they are supported by the majority. The majority of people will want fascism when it happens. The majority of people will want communism when it happens.
 
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This. Politicians never fix the things destroyed by the previous administration. The 2008 bank crisis was almost entirely Clinton's fault because he repealed the Glass-Steagall act, which separates investment banking from commercial banking. Bush didn't fix any of it. Then Bush destroyed the constitution. Obama carries the torch of further destroying the constitution while not fixing the banking regulations. The next president will not fix any of the current problems. They'll go out of their way to break everything even more.

What makes American politics unique is how both major parties hold the belief that destroying the country is a noble goal. Literally. No joke.

Republicans try to "starve the beast" through a combination of tax cuts and increased spending, with the stated goal of bankrupting the country. As the theory goes, bankrupting the country would force the central bank to monetize the national debt (like they are right now), which would shatter global confidence in the dollar and lead to hyperinflation. After the hyperinflation, the republicans hope a charismatic Austrian fellow will come out of the woodwork and lead the country to create an empire that will last 1000 years.

Democrats use the "cloward-piven strategy" which attempts to overload the welfare system, bankrupt the country, and eventually lead to a communist revolution.

You can read more about the Republocrat plan to destroy America by following these links:
starve the beast strategy
cloward-piven strategy

Stewox? Is that you? Needs more links and big charts.
 

shortylickens

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Jul 15, 2003
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I hope it stays in.

If it fails then we will learn not to do it again.
If it succeeds then, well, groovy.
 

Sonikku

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Jun 23, 2005
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One party designed it and the other party passed it, so no. It will never be repealed.