Will Obamacare be removed if a Repub becomes pres in 2016?

[Jay5]

sadly america will need more then 1 term of a republican president to fix the mess obama has left

 

[Hayabusa Rider]

sadly america will need more then 1 term of a republican president to fix the mess obama has left

they cannot fix what they cannot understand.

 

[nehalem256]

They don't have an answer for our spending 17-18% of GDP on health care and getting less care than people receive in other nations.

Neither do the Democrats.

The government already spends as much on healthcare as other nations. So if the solution is as easy "copy them". Then the Democrats should be able to offer a plan that provides free healthcare for everyone without increasing taxes. And you would never have to pay for insurance again

Somehow I think if Obama proposed such an "amazing" plan the Republicans would be happier than if he finally came out as a gay Muslim

 

[Moonbeam]

It was never called ObamaCare to begin with, and no.

It's a law.

Good luck repealing it, I didn't need it myself to begin with and the whole health care system is so broken to begin with it was a good start to begin with.

Fuck I hate people some days.

Really, are people this dense not waning to fix the whole damned system that is so screwed up they have to be so obtuse that way.

If you are going to complain all the time about how other people aren't as smart as you, you are going to be very tired.

 

[Moonbeam]

they cannot fix what they cannot understand.

I bet a way around that could be found if they had humility and will>

 

[WhipperSnapper]

like many other americans i dont trust the government as a whole any further than i can throw them.

In that case, you would love real laissez-faire free market health care:

"Insurance Company, I have been diagnosed with cancer, please pay the doctors so that I can live. Without your payments I will die soon."

"Former Policyholder, that's just too bad. Because you failed to tell us about the hangnail you had at age six as per the terms of the contract on line 57 of page 1673, we were forced to rescind your health insurance."

 

[WhipperSnapper]

Neither do the Democrats.

The government already spends as much on healthcare as other nations. So if the solution is as easy "copy them". Then the Democrats should be able to offer a plan that provides free healthcare for everyone without increasing taxes. And you would never have to pay for insurance again

At least publicly, the Democrats do not have a plan. I suspect that privately a great many would support some form of socialized medicine. However, even hinting that you support something like that is politically untenable because Americans' minds turn off and they suffer feelings of terror whenever anyone mentions the word "socialism". So, we really can't be certain that the Democrats would not propose a different system if it were politically feasible.

Perhaps we'll never know what the Democrats would really advocate if it made political sense. As of right now they are feckless and pusillanimous.

 

[WhipperSnapper]

sadly america will need more then 1 term of a republican president to fix the mess obama has left

What would the Republican's plan be? Would they fix the problem by giving an even larger share of the wealth produced to the top 5%?

 

[squarecut1]

There may be diversions along the way, but eventually there would be a single payer system. Not in the lifetime of anyone reading this though

 

[shortylickens]

What would the Republican's plan be? Would they fix the problem by giving an even larger share of the wealth produced to the top 5%?

No, they will earn that on their own. While everyone else is busy worrying about the Kardashians.

 

[squarecut1]

What is the "free market" alternative that Republican party has in mind? That's right - they have no actual solutions. Just slogans.

 

[TerryMathews]

What is the "free market" alternative that Republican party has in mind? That's right - they have no actual solutions. Just slogans.

I've seen a number of Republicans suggest HFSAs combined with catastrophic coverage.

 

[senseamp]

I've seen a number of Republicans suggest HFSAs combined with catastrophic coverage.

They voted 50 times to repeal Obamacare, not once for HFSA and catastrophic coverage plan of their own. So their suggestions are nothing but hot air.

 

[TerryMathews]

They voted 50 times to repeal Obamacare, not once for HFSA and catastrophic coverage plan of their own. So their suggestions are nothing but hot air.

You can't very well build a new house on top of the old one can you?

 

[squarecut1]

Fact is, no one has any real solutions to the gigantic mess the health "care" system is. ACA is at best a temporary patch fix. There would need to be a fundamental change eventually.

 

[senseamp]

You can't very well build a new house on top of the old one can you?

You don't demolish your house and be homeless for a year while you build a new one either.
They could have voted to replace Obamacare with their HSA+Catastrophic coverage. They didn't.

 

[thraashman]

You can't very well build a new house on top of the old one can you?

And you don't demolish a house with people in it when you have no plans for the new house, timeline of when it will be done, housing for them to stay in while it's being built, and you the whole people are currently IN IT!

In other words, your analogy fails.

 

[TerryMathews]

You don't demolish your house and be homeless for a year while you build a new one either.
They could have voted to replace Obamacare with their HSA+Catastrophic coverage. They didn't.

These would be two separate bills.

Obamacare is unwieldy as is. I can't imagine the size of an omnibus bill the strikes Obamacare and amends it to something sane.

 

[senseamp]

These would be two separate bills.

Obamacare is unwieldy as is. I can't imagine the size of an omnibus bill the strikes Obamacare and amends it to something sane.

LOL, so you trust Republicans to replace Obamacare with something once they repeal it, but they won't vote on the replacement now? Just out of curiosity, do you trust friendly people from Nigeria emailing you with big promises as well?

 

[brycejones]

This is exciting news because 50+ years of democratic leaders has done wonders for Detroit. I can only imagine the same greatness for these United States.

I'm sorry are you whining about the republicans who ran the companies that formed the core of the Detroit economy into the ground?

 

[brycejones]

Fact is, no one has any real solutions to the gigantic mess the health "care" system is. ACA is at best a temporary patch fix. There would need to be a fundamental change eventually.

I know, like the systems that already work in other industrialized countries.........

 

[TerryMathews]

LOL, so you trust Republicans to replace Obamacare with something once they repeal it, but they won't vote on the replacement now? Just out of curiosity, do you trust friendly people from Nigeria emailing you with big promises as well?

Are they Republican princes?

Could be worse, I could believe there isn't "a smidgen" of corruption at the IRS... LOL

 

[senseamp]

Are they Republican princes?

Could be worse, I could believe there isn't "a smidgen" of corruption at the IRS... LOL

Exactly. You'd be an idiot to trust politicians. So if they want to get rid of Obamacare, they'll have to replace it with an alternative, not a promise.

 

[senseamp]

I know, like the systems that already work in other industrialized countries.........

You are not supposed to be aware of those, and reinvent the bicycle instead. Looking at how other countries do things and learning is unamerican.

 

[squarecut1]

I know, like the systems that already work in other industrialized countries.........

Yes, but it would take many decades of evolution for us before we get close to that level of other industrialized countries.