Will Obama win in 2012?

[Ldir]

Those are just the politicos. Your forget people like David Patreaus or John Bolton. I'd pay good money to see a debate of Obama vs Bolton.

As to Obama, we need to look back to LBJ. When Eugene McCarthy came within 6-7 points of beating him in the '68 New Hampshire primary, LBJ understood his position and folded. Hillary has kept her nose clean in the state dept and after she resigns in the next year or so, she will make a run against him. For the Democrats, dropping a president whose ratings suck and has shown that he cannot do what he promised will make it easy to nominate Hillary.

Hillary will wait until 2016. She can pick up where Obama left off.

 

[Pens1566]

Still haven't seen anyone mention a viable candidate for '12 reppublican nominee ...

Petraeus and Bolton? Sure. More people responsible for the Iraq debacle. Good idea there.

 

[nageov3t]

ever hear Hillary talk about the 2008 campaign? I really don't think she has it in her to run again.

Still haven't seen anyone mention a viable candidate for '12 reppublican nominee ...

so, what you're saying is that you haven't read the thread?

 

[Pens1566]

ever hear Hillary talk about the 2008 campaign? I really don't think she has it in her to run again.


so, what you're saying is that you haven't read the thread?

Whatever floats your boat.

None of the names mentioned have a shot. People are just spitting out random names.

 

[Mani]

Mitch Daniels, Tim Pawlenty, Chris Christie (not running), Scott Brown (not running), Bobby Jindal, Bob McDonell, and Haley Barbour jump to mind.

Don't see any of those posing a viable threat for different reasons, but I guess we'll see.

 

[woolfe9999]

People are assuming he will still be president in 2012.

You want to bet? Let's not let our delusional impeachment fantasies cloud reality.

- wolf

 

[nageov3t]

Whatever floats your boat.

None of the names mentioned have a shot. People are just spitting out random names.

how do you objectively define "has a shot"?

the last Obama vs (Generic Republican) poll showed a dead heat, and that was a few months ago. I doubt things have improved for Obama in the interim.

the election is a long way away, but right now, I'd say that any non-polarizing Republican figure has a legitimate shot.

 

[Mani]

Those are just the politicos. Your forget people like David Patreaus or John Bolton. I'd pay good money to see a debate of Obama vs Bolton.

Bolton? The guy has absolutely zero electability. And does Patreaus have any political aspirations?

 

[Pens1566]

how do you objectively define "has a shot"?

Ah, semantics. I guess its a personal "smell test" then. Happy?

There is no one currently on the republican side with the recognition, charisma, campaign/fundraising ability anywhere near what would be needed to win in '12. I still think Palin has the best shot at it and she's not going to win any general election except prom queen.

 

[nageov3t]

Ah, semantics. I guess its a personal "smell test" then. Happy?

There is no one currently on the republican side with the recognition, charisma, campaign/fundraising ability anywhere near what would be needed to win in '12. I still think Palin has the best shot at it and she's not going to win any general election except prom queen.

no, just... no.

have you ever looked at her poll numbers?

I'll never understand the left's fascination with her, but I'd be willing to put money on her not winning a single major primary if indeed she even runs (which I'm not fully convinced she wants to... I think she's just in the public spotlight for the money)

 

[Linflas]

So you think because the movement doesn't take a position on social issues, the followers don't either? Of course they do - and they will return to being a focal point. You can bet the dems will trot them out since they know they create wedges for republicans.

Well that is what will make it interesting to watch. I think the Tea Party folks probably cover the spectrum on social issues but they view what is taking place fiscally as a threat not only to them personally but their children and grandchildren as well. That may very well serve to keep them focused on the main goal rather than the diversions of social issues. This fall will be interesting to say the least.

 

[Doboji]

Someone like Romney maybe... but if Palin wins the nomination... there's not a ass's chance in Roethlisbergers bathroom that Obama doesn't win again.

 

[Atreus21]

Need an option for I don't know.

 

[sandorski]

Jeb(?) Bush is the Republicans best chance. Obama Wins if the Economy improves and it will continue to do so. In fact, the Economy will determine the outcome in this years Election and if it continues, don't expect much change in Party representation.

 

[Pens1566]

no, just... no.

have you ever looked at her poll numbers?

I'll never understand the left's fascination with her, but I'd be willing to put money on her not winning a single major primary if indeed she even runs (which I'm not fully convinced she wants to... I think she's just in the public spotlight for the money)

Her overall #s are which is why I said she has no shot in a general. But the tea baggers and religious fundy right love her and that could == primary wins. She's their star after all.

 

[JEDIYoda]

People are assuming he will still be president in 2012.

your an idiot to think otherwise....

 

[Cogman]

I voted no, however, it is still WAY too early to tell. What he does 12 months from now will be FAR more important to his re-election then anything he does now.

If the election were held today, I don't think he would win, which is why I voted no.

 

[GuitarDaddy]

The world will come to an end before Nov 2012 everyone knows this

 

[Nemesis 1]

Obama's never said that he has no intentions to run. He has only said he is willing to pass healthcare even if it makes him a one-term president, or something to that effect.

And on the OP, I don't see anyone out of the republican field who can challenge him. Their best bet is someone unknown at this point.

I couldn't agree more I have never seen a bigger bumbling idiot . Just view these.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=of61E1FesPU

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QAUZFMHXbD8&feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EpGH02DtIws&feature=related

 

[Fern]

The world will come to an end before Nov 2012 everyone knows this

I think the 'end' date is Dec 12, 2012.

Of course it's too far out to hazard a guess as to Obama's re-election. But at this point I do think it's in the realm of possibility that he could be another 1 term President.

Fern

 

[Jaskalas]

I do not look forward to the next election, as I already know the ballot will be stacked with two bad choices, one of which will be President. Romney is a likely suspect.

 

[MotF Bane]

I think the 'end' date is Dec 12, 2012.

Of course it's too far out to hazard a guess as to Obama's re-election. But at this point I do think it's in the realm of possibility that he could be another 1 term President.

Fern

12/21/2012 actually. :awe:

 

[Fern]

12/21/2012 actually. :awe:

Yeah, you're right

Fern

 

[GuitarDaddy]

Yeah, you're right

Fern

Well there you have it, Sara Palin will be elected as POTUS 11/2012 which triggers the apocolypse

 

[thraashman]

Well it depends. The current Republicans tend to want someone slightly right of Khamenei. If they put forth a candidate like that, then Obama will win easily. Really, the easiest way to win right now would be to put forth a candidate that actually leans left instead of someone who has a few left views but overall is right of center like Obama. Obama is beginning to show that he's not liberal enough to really fix this country the way it needs to be. And unfortunately the current conservatives have proven that anyone who falls even right of center they think of as a socialist.

I think Obama still has a chance. Unfortunately this oil spill fiasco came at a bad time. And the president cannot fix everything. He was spending so much time fixing the economic problems Bush caused, that he didn't fix the oversight problems Bush caused. And then there's the problems trying to fix Afghanistan which wouldn't exist had Bush handled that anything but ineptly. If the current republicans would actually work with Obama and stop trying their hardest to be complete obstructionists then shit would get fixed. But they don't want shit fixed, they want as many problems as possible so they can blame Obama. Then they'll aim to usher in a massive shift right so they can set up the American version of Iran as a Christian run totalitarian nation with a figure head president that is actually run by high cleric Rush Limbaugh.