Will Intel's woes jinx AMD's launch of BD ?

[Elixer]

What say all you early adopters, given the option of getting bulldozer on day 1 vs waiting 3-6 months before making a purchase, which are you more inclined to do ?

 

[996GT2]

What say all you early adopters, given the option of getting bulldozer on day 1 vs waiting 3-6 months before making a purchase, which are you more inclined to do ?

Eh, the Sandy Bridge SATA problem isn't really a huge issue for many users. I think a lot of users are blowing it way out of proportion. For most people who run two drives or one SSD and one HDD, it's a non-issue. I have both my SSD and my HDD in the 6 Gbps ports right now and will just run them like that until Gigabyte issues an official recall.

 

[Elixer]

Eh, the Sandy Bridge SATA problem isn't really a huge issue for many users. I think a lot of users are blowing it way out of proportion. For most people who run two drives or one SSD and one HDD, it's a non-issue. I have both my SSD and my HDD in the 6 Gbps ports right now and will just run them like that until Gigabyte issues an official recall.

What does this have to do with the question at hand ?

I am just wondering if more people are going to wait for other people to test before gettting their next motherboard/CPU.

 

[dudeofdur]

wait is this a trick question? I see 2 obligatory AMD fanboy responses... first and the last

 

[endlessmike133]

Eh, the Sandy Bridge SATA problem isn't really a huge issue for many users. I think a lot of users are blowing it way out of proportion. For most people who run two drives or one SSD and one HDD, it's a non-issue. I have both my SSD and my HDD in the 6 Gbps ports right now and will just run them like that until Gigabyte issues an official recall.

ITS A HUGE ISSUE.

sandy bridge cpus and mobos are being taken off the market; you cant even buy them!

now i agree if the cpus and mobos were left on the market it wouldnt be a huge problemo for me but i cant even buy the mobo and cpu JEEZ

 

[Elixer]

wait is this a trick question? I see 2 obligatory AMD fanboy responses... first and the last

Heh, that was for the clueless, but I tried to inject humor into it. Oh well, guess it didn't work. ()

 

[SickBeast]

If AMD can go for the jugular with Bulldozer at Cebit, things could get interesting.

This won't "jynx" anything. Bulldozer has already taped out. This is a huge opportunity for AMD.

 

[Castiel]

Eh, the Sandy Bridge SATA problem isn't really a huge issue for many users. I think a lot of AMD Fanboy's are blowing it way out of proportion. For most people who run two drives or one SSD and one HDD, it's a non-issue. I have both my SSD and my HDD in the 6 Gbps ports right now and will just run them like that until Gigabyte issues an official recall.

Fixed for you

 

[SickBeast]

Fixed for you

Eh? How are we blowing it out of proportion when just about the entire computer industry has ground to a halt because of this? Think of all the companies that can no longer sell their products: HP, Compaq, Dell, Acer, Asus...the list goes on and on. This problem is going to have HUGE ramifications. D:

 

[endlessmike133]

Eh? How are we blowing it out of proportion when just about the entire computer industry has ground to a halt because of this? Think of all the companies that can no longer sell their products: HP, Compaq, Dell, Acer, Asus...the list goes on and on. This problem is going to have HUGE ramifications. D:

dont forget that even the custom building market has been thrown for a huge whirlwind

 

[sandorski]

If by "jinx" you mean "make awesomer", yes it will jinx AMD.

 

[Wreckage]

I don't think it will have an effect one way or another. AMD's success or failure is entirely in their own hands right now.

 

[SlitheryDee]

Eh? How are we blowing it out of proportion when just about the entire computer industry has ground to a halt because of this? Think of all the companies that can no longer sell their products: HP, Compaq, Dell, Acer, Asus...the list goes on and on. This problem is going to have HUGE ramifications. D:

Well, from the perspective of the industry as a whole I think this is a bonafide disaster. AMD need to capitalize on this somehow, because a recall of every single chipset that works with their shiny new processor and 2 month delay on shipping updated parts feels like more than just a little stumble to me. A lot of people are pretty pissed at intel today.

From the perspective of a P67 user with only 2 SATA drives and 4 good SATA ports on his MB (me), it's no biggie. I'm actually glad I don't have to wait until April to run a SB system.

If I were in the market for BD I'd still be an early adopter personally. I mean, it's not always this bad.

 

[Mopetar]

I'm waiting until more performance details come out, but once the product is shipping I'll be upgrading to either BD or SB, whichever has better performance/price in the areas I want.

 

[Rifter]

I'll consider BD is price/performance is right and they start supporting SLI. Otherwise ill stay intel. I dont like being GPU locked to a specific vender for multi GPU setups, I know there are hacked drivers for SLI on AMD chipsets but i have no intrest in hacked drivers that are not officially supported.

Im unbiased and buy whatever offers best bang/buck at time of purchase for the money i have, if AMD will force me into ATI only GPU's in multiple card setups thats reason enough not to buy them.

This is in my opinion one area where AMD could learn from intel, intel will let you run crossfire even though it(ATI) is from there direct competetion.

 

[BD231]

AMD will not have bulldozer on the market by the time Intel has fixed this issue and we all know Intel's " woes " have always garnered far more attention than a new CPU release by AMD .... always.

 

[ShadowVVL]

I agree with BD231, intel will fix the problem before bulldozers release.



Im waiting to see the comparison between llano, bd and sb before I do a new build!

 

[Pohemi]

Glad I ordered everything last week. I have 6x SATA III ports on-board, I don't care about the Intel SATA II dependability. Marvel chipset a few more SATA II/III ports so I'm not likely to run out of ports to use. I'm just glad everything works and I have a running system after the issues I've read about with P67 boards and/or chipsets.

 

[OCGuy]

Somehow I think it wont matter either way, AMD will still be the afterthought of the CPU world.

 

[Dadofamunky]

It does rob Sandy Bridge of momentum in the marketplace, particularly on the portables side (of course, the area that AMD is absolutely weak in).

I tend to agree that this is a big deal - I've been doing this since '86 and I can't recall an entire released launch being completely pulled from the market. I don't think even AMD's Barcelona was pulled. Perhaps others can enlighten me. But for sure I don't think Intel has EVER done anything like this before. That alone makes it news.

 

[LoneNinja]

I never buy the latest, and I'll probably wait on a new stepping before getting Bulldozer. Depending on pricing and what happens to Phenom II, I may just get an X6 and put it on an AM3+ board.

Look at Phenom when it first launched, had that TLB issue(I think thats what it was called), than even early 9850/9950 were terrible clockers struggling past 2.8 while later down the road most could hit 3.2. Or how about the Phenom II 940 launching at $280 and being priced at $180 less than 3 months later. Both Phenom/Phenom II showed great improvement with a new stepping, I'm sure we'll see the same out of Bulldozer and even Llano.

 

[OBLAMA2009]

i would never go out and get the first stepping of a new chip, intel or amd. has there ever been such a launch where the platforms didnt have a major defect? think about it, pentiums, p3, athlon, p4, phenom, sb all had noteable problems. those are just the ones i remember. its more likely than not that bd will have problems

 

[LiuKangBakinPie]

It's a FLAW, Dammit, not a Bug8.9999163362

 

[IntelUser2000]

This is in my opinion one area where AMD could learn from intel, intel will let you run crossfire even though it(ATI) is from there direct competetion.

IMO, AMD has more to lose than Intel in this case. Stopping ATI Xfire support won't move those users to Intel's integrated graphics. Because AMD has a lot smaller CPU marketshare, and they sell expensive discrete graphics, they have less to gain for CPUs sold and more to lose with their GPUs not sold.

(I'm assuming the reasons why AMD doesn't support Nvidia's SLI on their CPUs)

I don't think the problems Intel's having with the 6 series chipsets will affect AMD in any meaningful way. I guess there could be hundreds of people(out of many millions) that would put off purchasing systems with Bulldozer or Llano, because they are worried, but would be dependent on the prospect of the product itself.

 

[BladeVenom]

Jinx? If anything, it will be more likely that AMD will double check their upcoming chipsets to make sure they don't do an Intel.

Like almost everyone else has mentioned, this has temporarily ground Intels new platform to a halt. This is great news for AMD with Bulldozer coming up soon.