Will Intel's 45nm send AMD to the grave?

[Leper Messiah]

Originally posted by: dexvx

Originally posted by: jpeyton
Google seems to have faith in AMD. Their new deployable datacenters are using huge clusters of dual-core Opterons.

Whats your point? The first google datacenters were using Transmeta blades.

Originally posted by: Leper Messiah
nope. AMD isn't just standing still lol. Plus their 90nm are still cooler than Intel's 65nm...

Are you saying an X2 running at a 90W TDP is better than a comparable Yonah running at about a 30W TDP?

no, but is yonah running on the desktop? Thats a pure apples to oranges comparison.

 

[DVK916]

Originally posted by: Leper Messiah

Originally posted by: dexvx

Originally posted by: jpeyton
Google seems to have faith in AMD. Their new deployable datacenters are using huge clusters of dual-core Opterons.

Whats your point? The first google datacenters were using Transmeta blades.

Originally posted by: Leper Messiah
nope. AMD isn't just standing still lol. Plus their 90nm are still cooler than Intel's 65nm...

Are you saying an X2 running at a 90W TDP is better than a comparable Yonah running at about a 30W TDP?

no, but is yonah running on the desktop? Thats a pure apples to oranges comparison.

Some Viiv desktops will use yonah

 

[Leper Messiah]

Originally posted by: DVK916

Originally posted by: Leper Messiah

Originally posted by: dexvx

Originally posted by: jpeyton
Google seems to have faith in AMD. Their new deployable datacenters are using huge clusters of dual-core Opterons.

Whats your point? The first google datacenters were using Transmeta blades.

Originally posted by: Leper Messiah
nope. AMD isn't just standing still lol. Plus their 90nm are still cooler than Intel's 65nm...

Are you saying an X2 running at a 90W TDP is better than a comparable Yonah running at about a 30W TDP?

no, but is yonah running on the desktop? Thats a pure apples to oranges comparison.

Some Viiv desktops will use yonah

when is this going to happen? Prolly around the same time that AMD's 65nm process comes out.

 

[DVK916]

Also Conroe is only 65 watt.

 

[Toonces]

Originally posted by: DVK916
Also Conroe is only 65 watt.

and the X2 was released how many months ago? Where's Conroe?

Of course it should be better than the X2s, it's coming out much later.

 

[Leper Messiah]

Originally posted by: DVK916
Also Conroe is only 65 watt.

Can I buy a conroe right now? Nope. The only procs I can actually buy for a desktop that have that Intel name on it are either Smithfields (thermonuclear furnace) or a Pressler (not quite as hot as a Smitfield, but still toasty)

We can talk about the future and how such good products are going to come out, but then again Netburst was supposed to take us to 10GHz by now...

 

[StrangerGuy]

BTW both AMD and Intel uses their own respective standards to define and measure their TDP values.

 

[AbAbber2k]

Why hasn't this thread been closed? Yes, one die shrink is all it takes to kill poor little AMD.

 

[SparkyJJO]

Originally posted by: Mik3y
wrong forum. of course amd will be able to match up with intel.

and pass too

 

[DevilsAdvocate]

Originally posted by: Leper Messiah

Originally posted by: DVK916
Also Conroe is only 65 watt.

Can I buy a conroe right now? Nope. The only procs I can actually buy for a desktop that have that Intel name on it are either Smithfields (thermonuclear furnace) or a Pressler (not quite as hot as a Smitfield, but still toasty)

We can talk about the future and how such good products are going to come out, but then again Netburst was supposed to take us to 10GHz by now...

Hey - I like my thermonuclear furnace

<- 840D

 

[StrangerGuy]

Originally posted by: DevilsAdvocate

Originally posted by: Leper Messiah

Originally posted by: DVK916
Also Conroe is only 65 watt.

Can I buy a conroe right now? Nope. The only procs I can actually buy for a desktop that have that Intel name on it are either Smithfields (thermonuclear furnace) or a Pressler (not quite as hot as a Smitfield, but still toasty)

We can talk about the future and how such good products are going to come out, but then again Netburst was supposed to take us to 10GHz by now...

Hey - I like my thermonuclear furnace

<- 840D

I also like my mini-BBQ hotplate - Prescott 3.0GHz!

 

[chuckywang]

Originally posted by: wfbberzerker
crap, meant to vote no.

ZOMG!!!! NO!!!!!!! YOU IDIOT HOW COULD YOU!

 

[biostud]

Doesn't IBM have a partnership with AMD in chip production.

 

[sygyzy]

Originally posted by: JS80
So when Intel starts rolling out their 45nm chips, do you think AMD will die? I don't think AMD has the resources to match 45nm...

Intel got cocky and greedy and AMD was able to pwn them. But I feel that only awakened the sleeping giant and gave them motivation to build the nuclear bomb.

My god do you read what you write? It's full of cliches and they don't even work. Pwn them, "awaken the sleeping giant" (WWII, Japan), and motivation to build the nuclear bomb? Is this a question about processors or WWII history recap day?

 

[JS80]

Originally posted by: sygyzy

Originally posted by: JS80
So when Intel starts rolling out their 45nm chips, do you think AMD will die? I don't think AMD has the resources to match 45nm...

Intel got cocky and greedy and AMD was able to pwn them. But I feel that only awakened the sleeping giant and gave them motivation to build the nuclear bomb.

My god do you read what you write? It's full of cliches and they don't even work. Pwn them, "awaken the sleeping giant" (WWII, Japan), and motivation to build the nuclear bomb? Is this a question about processors or WWII history recap day?

Writing is not so good from where my country is residing. You have to prease excuse my poor glammar and engrish the history is very familiar but is a point was I trying to make analogy. Prease excuse again for once.

 

[Jeff7181]

No more so than the transition to .18 micron, .13 micron, 90nm, and then 65 nm has.

 

[miniMUNCH]

Originally posted by: biostud
Doesn't IBM have a partnership with AMD in chip production.

Yes...IBM is the big ace in the hole.

 

[smack Down]

Originally posted by: miniMUNCH

Originally posted by: biostud
Doesn't IBM have a partnership with AMD in chip production.

Yes...IBM is the big ace in the hole.

Don't forget,
Samsung, Chartered Semiconductor Manufacturing and Infineon are all IBM partners for 45 nm.

 

[13Gigatons]

It seems that AMD has only gotten stronger in the last 2 years where it was predicted they would leave the CPU market by several analyst that would like to remain nameless. Intel for it's part has stumbled and run into walls that it did not predict like netburst not reaching 5ghz or even 4ghz for that matter. Intel had to scrambled and get the Pentium M out and Core Solo and Core Duo after just to keep up. Desktop will have the same approach as well, it will interesting to see how Intel markets the newer chips though now that netburst is being phased out.

 

[A5]

Bleh...can't read.

 

[JS80]

Originally posted by: 13Gigatons
It seems that AMD has only gotten stronger in the last 2 years where it was predicted they would leave the CPU market by several analyst that would like to remain nameless. Intel for it's part has stumbled and run into walls that it did not predict like netburst not reaching 5ghz or even 4ghz for that matter. Intel had to scrambled and get the Pentium M out and Core Solo and Core Duo after just to keep up. Desktop will have the same approach as well, it will interesting to see how Intel markets the newer chips though now that netburst is being phased out.

I guess what I'm asking is since Intel has woken up and decided to put some money into trying to beat AMD, if AMD has the resources to catch up. Sort of like Cold War where Russia didn't have enough money to keep up with US and lost.

 

[FelixDeCat]

Yes, as soon as the 45nm Celerons come out! :thumbsup:

 

[Bartolo]

ya but still the sempron's are better and are cheaper

 

[mugs]

Originally posted by: SampSon
Naw, the market will always contain competition.
I would be willing to bet that intel would dump serious money into AMD just to keep them afloat.

Don't you think they liked it when every personal computer except Mac had Intel processors?

 

[Passions]

Intel has Mariah Carey.

Intel > AMD.