Will Intel release any new Haswell i3 CPUs? (Like the 3.9Ghz Skylake i3-6320?)

[escrow4]

A 950 will do basic gaming if your idea of basic gaming is 1080p @ 35FPS on medium-ish. I'd pick one up if they didn't cost ~$220 here.

 

[VirtualLarry]

Windows 10?

Since upgrading last fall, I've been having my Displayport monitor and USB audio interface get crabby over which of them is my Default audio device.

No, Windows 7. The HDMI audio remains the default device, it just won't pass audio any more. (Well, except for the times that it disappears entirely, out of the "Playback Devices" list.)

 

[VirtualLarry]

Doubtful. On Russian sites, it was discussed that one of the disadvantages of BLCK overclocking of Skylake are iGPU issues, inability to put the CPU into power savings modes, broken temperature sensor, etc.

Again with the random tangents.

My Asus H110M-A board, as mentioned, does NOT support BLCK overclocking. My i3-6100 CPU is fully stock speed.

Edit: I tried another experiement. I tried using an ATI-branded DVI-to-HDMI converter, on the DVI output of my H110M-A mobo. I went into the BIOS / UEFI, and Enabled "Audio over DVI". I then booted Windows 7 64-bit SP1, it played the welcome sound. I started up the internet radio, and it was playing over the DVI port through the HDMI adapter.

Unfortunately, that didn't fix the problem. I set monitor sleep to 1min, and slept the monitor. I then tried to wake it up, no audio. Had to Disable the Intel Display Audio device and re-enable it to get sound.

So, at least, I proved that the problem is NOT just limited to the particular HDMI output port on the mobo, it affects the audio over the DVI as well. Which is one more reason why I believe the problem is a design defect, and not just a one-off with my mobo.

 

[dave_the_nerd]

Again with the random tangents.

The best conversations are the result of weird tangents! ()

 

[VirtualLarry]

The best conversations are the result of weird tangents! ()

True. Don't stop posting RS, I still love your posts.

I guess I was just trying to point out in a roundabout way, that BCLK OC has nothing to do with my problem with my i3-6100 and Asus H110M-A board, since everything on that board is at stock.

I did mention BLCK OC in the context of my ASRock Z170 Pro4S boards, with my G4400, but as I indicated in one of my posts in one of these many threads, that I un-overclocked the G4400 to test the Intel iGPU. (Those machines have 7950 3GB cards in them.)

TBH, I'm having no issues whatsoever with HDMI audio handshake on those (ASRock Z170) boards, with the machines un-overclocked. (I didn't even try to use the iGPU with SKY OC, as my understanding from the beginning was that that just wouldn't work.)

In fact, other than the distributed-computing, I don't even notice all that much performance difference between the G4400 @ 4.455Ghz and using the 7950 3GB, and 3.3Ghz using the iGPU. At least, for web browsing. Still have the same 1Gbit wired network, connected to a 25-30Mbit/sec internet connection, and still same PCI-E M.2 SSD.

 

[escrow4]

True. Don't stop posting RS, I still love your posts.

I guess I was just trying to point out in a roundabout way, that BCLK OC has nothing to do with my problem with my i3-6100 and Asus H110M-A board, since everything on that board is at stock.

I did mention BLCK OC in the context of my ASRock Z170 Pro4S boards, with my G4400, but as I indicated in one of my posts in one of these many threads, that I un-overclocked the G4400 to test the Intel iGPU. (Those machines have 7950 3GB cards in them.)

TBH, I'm having no issues whatsoever with HDMI audio handshake on those (ASRock Z170) boards, with the machines un-overclocked. (I didn't even try to use the iGPU with SKY OC, as my understanding from the beginning was that that just wouldn't work.)

In fact, other than the distributed-computing, I don't even notice all that much performance difference between the G4400 @ 4.455Ghz and using the 7950 3GB, and 3.3Ghz using the iGPU. At least, for web browsing. Still have the same 1Gbit wired network, connected to a 25-30Mbit/sec internet connection, and still same PCI-E M.2 SSD.

The problem you have is your Asus mobo sucks balls. If I was buying low end I'd buy Asrock first, Asrock second, and Gigabyte third. Asus doesn't get a look in. They are overpriced and meh compared to other brands.

 

[VirtualLarry]

The problem you have is your Asus mobo sucks balls. If I was buying low end I'd buy Asrock first, Asrock second, and Gigabyte third. Asus doesn't get a look in. They are overpriced and meh compared to other brands.

I agree totally!

You have to remember, though, I bought this board when SKL was a brand-new thing. It was the cheapest SKL-compatible board available, and I had limited funds for experimentation.

I also bought my first G4400 CPU then too, I think. And a stick of 4GB DDR4-2133.

And, up until recently, I thought that Asus was a solid brand. Now I know that they're just overhyped. At least at the low/mid-end of the market.

 

[dave_the_nerd]

I agree totally!

You have to remember, though, I bought this board when SKL was a brand-new thing. It was the cheapest SKL-compatible board available, and I had limited funds for experimentation.

I also bought my first G4400 CPU then too, I think. And a stick of 4GB DDR4-2133.

And, up until recently, I thought that Asus was a solid brand. Now I know that they're just overhyped. At least at the low/mid-end of the market.

Everybody's cheap crap is cheap. There's no such thing as a diamond in the rough anymore.

 

[VirtualLarry]

Everybody's cheap crap is cheap. There's no such thing as a diamond in the rough anymore.

Well, I wasn't exactly expecting a "diamond in the rough" - just a modest entry-level board, that, well, "worked".

If you think about it, most entry-level rigs would use the Intel built-in iGPU. So you would perhaps expect that that would be one thing that they would try to get correct in an entry-level board. Boy, was I wrong.

I'm now wondering if any Skylake board with a VGA output present on the back panel is going to have similar problems. If you look it up in ARK, Intel specifies that SKL CPUs have NO VGA support. So these boards that also support VGA, while versatile, are essentially hacks, and apparently, don't work with the generic Intel iGPU drivers.

This would be a good article for some tech web-site to investigate, quite frankly, to see if the issue is more wide-spread than just my one mobo model (Asus H110M-A).

Edit: I had the thought that perhaps the mobo vendor drivers might work properly, if the board has some sort of non-standard hardware config that messes with the stock Intel drivers. So I found an updated 2016 VGA driver on Asus's site for this board, and installed it. NOPE. Same issue. The version on their web site is 4377.

 

[waltchan]

If I was buying low end I'd buy Asrock first, Asrock second, and Gigabyte third. Asus doesn't get a look in. They are overpriced and meh compared to other brands.

Is this a typo?

 

[dave_the_nerd]

Is this a typo?

Probably not. ASRock is pretty good.

 

[jihe]

While they are at it, Intel should release a 4ghz pentium 4 as well. Seriously...

 

[waltchan]

While they are at it, Intel should release a 4ghz pentium 4 as well. Seriously...

A 4 GHz Pentium 4 has identical benchmark rating with Celeron G460 1.8GHz, both are single-core with hyperthreading.

 

[escrow4]

Is this a typo?

No they are that good and fairly well-priced as well. Win win.

 

[StrangerGuy]

Everybody's cheap crap is cheap. There's no such thing as a diamond in the rough anymore.

Everything is so locked down and integrated by Intel that it is impossible in this age to have the equivalent of amazing and cheap Abit boards we had in the far past.

BTW shitty Intel giveth-and-taketh-away buggy BCLK OCing doesn't count.

 

[waltchan]

No they are that good and fairly well-priced as well. Win win.

I'll be honest with you, but I found ASRock boards more cheaply-made than Asus. ASRock N68-GS4 FX board suffers from cracked CPU mount tabs.

 

[jihe]

I'll be honest with you, but I found ASRock boards more cheaply-made than Asus. ASRock N68-GS4 FX board suffers from cracked CPU mount tabs.

Yeah but at least they are actually cheap.

 

[LTC8K6]

I have had zero problems with Asus boards. I have no complaints and no reason not to buy again.

 

[VirtualLarry]

Just a quick follow-up. I purchased an ASRock H110-ITX mini-ITX board, and transplanted my i3-6100, 8GB kit of GSkill DDR4-2800 RAM, and my 240GB SSD with Win7 64-bit on it, into an ITX case I have. After all the drivers got re-installed, and then I had to manually install the Intel LAN off of a CD, it was ready to go.

And... no surprise, NO PROBLEMS with monitor sleep and resuming HDMI audio.

The problem seems indeed to be the Asus H110M-A mobo.