It's too far removed. We need a Lincoln project specifically for SC justices. Follow their lives, decisions, tease out histories, associations, cases and majority/minority decisions, etc. Shine some light and report widely so people associate their decisions with the people's lives.
Her improper behavior has nothing to do with the charges against Trump or the other defendants, even if true. They might as well be asking for the case to be thrown out because it it snowed this week, as it has just as much relevance to the charges and the case as her accused behavior does.Teflon Don.
Anyone seriously still deluded enough to think he'll see any repercussions?
Trump: Georgia case ‘totally compromised’ after allegations against Fani Willis
Former President Trump on Tuesday insisted the case against him and several others in Georgia over efforts to overturn the state’s 2020 election results should be dropped after another defend…thehill.com
In some cases you could possibly go to jail, as bribery can fall under rackateering.
I wouldn't be surprise if Trump encouraged his co-defendant to make baseless claims.... i mean normally such filings would include some evidence.Teflon Don.
Anyone seriously still deluded enough to think he'll see any repercussions?
Trump: Georgia case ‘totally compromised’ after allegations against Fani Willis
Former President Trump on Tuesday insisted the case against him and several others in Georgia over efforts to overturn the state’s 2020 election results should be dropped after another defend…
Amazing how Trump already have people proclaiming she did something inappropriate without a shred of evidence.
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The power of propaganda, it never fails with republicans...see Hunter Biden.
I disagree. Even the appearance of a conflict of interest in a case of this magnitude (RICO) makes Willis' office look stupid.
Conflict of interest doesn’t discount it was the grand jury that granted this indictment. So unless Willis bribed them all, it’s more ketchup on the wall. And anyone that gives this credibility is just an useful idiot.
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That article makes it seem like this was all about hooking up her boyfriend rather than prosecuting Trump.
Even if it's all on the up and up, wouldn't someone at some point along the way mention that hiring your inexperienced boyfriend is a bad look? Billing 24 hours a day seems questionable as well. Was there something so time sensitive that the guy couldn't stop to eat or sleep?
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If you say offices need to “maintain the appearance” then SCUTUS should have been impeached a long time ago. Are we really talking appearances when we have no real details only accusations??
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Look who is concerned about appearances now.
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I see it took you until Jan 12 2024 to be concerned about the “look” of propriety from a government agency.
Are congratulations in order?
So having no actual response you decided a snide remark was in order? I expected better.
This all will be looked into. My hunch is nothing will come of it other than a side show and another tool for the Trump team to use in his defense.
This doesn’t weaken the case against Trump one bit. Willis’s actions don’t change what Trump did and what Trump did was unambiguously break the law and had his people break the law for him. That’s clear from the indictment and the guilty pleas of his codefendants. Remember Trumpers: His codefendants pled guilty.
Worst case scenario is Willis, and her entire office, are removed from the case. It is not clear who would take over from there because the Attorney General Chris Carr has his own conflict. The same Chris Carr who testified before the Fulton County grand jury about the time Trump called him to warn him not to oppose Texas v. Pennsylvania. The person who does take over could just drop the charges if they so chose. Conflicts of interest only get you kicked off the case if you’re not in Trump’s pocket. If you ARE in Trump’s pocket, then the conflict of interest is a feature and you stay on the case.
At the very least, if Willis is indeed removed from the case, it would cause delays. Another prosecutor would have to get caught up before it could go any further.
I'll wait and see about the vacations allegations before making a conclusion. I know that professional conferences are frequently held in resort type locations. If you are giving money to somebody, and they are giving you some of that money back in the form of summer vacations, then you’re financially benefiting from your prosecution. *Cough* Clarence Thomas *cough* ... Anyone who has a problem with this surely has a problem with what Clarence Thomas has done for the last 20 or so fucking years! right?
As for Wade being "unqualified" Big ole MEH! to that. his role seemed to be primarily investigative and the special grand jury he convened wasn’t even authorized to bring charges, so I don’t see prosecutorial experience as being particularly important. And I’m not even sure they knew they had a RICO case BEFORE they did the investigation. Remember, Willis is the prosecutor on the RICO case, not Wade. AND! ... don’t you think if Wade was so supremely unqualified someone would’ve noticed in the past two and a half years? The fact that the two prosecutors knew and trusted each other isn’t inappropriate despite what the gaslighters say, and it looks to me like Wade had experience with high profile investigations and based on that, was an appropriate hire. And there is the “cry wolf” factor — it’s not the first time they’ve tried to smear Willis with sexual allegations, even though I’ve never heard a Republican suggest that, for example, Harlan Crow’s lavish gifts to Clarence Thomas was an indication of a sexual relationship between the two men.
Worst case scenario is Willis, and her entire office, are removed from the case. It is not clear who would take over from there because the Attorney General Chris Carr has his own conflict. The same Chris Carr who testified before the Fulton County grand jury about the time Trump called him to warn him not to oppose Texas v. Pennsylvania. The person who does take over could just drop the charges if they so chose. Conflicts of interest only get you kicked off the case if you’re not in Trump’s pocket. If you ARE in Trump’s pocket, then the conflict of interest is a feature and you stay on the case.
At the very least, if Willis is indeed removed from the case, it would cause delays. Another prosecutor would have to get caught up before it could go any further.
I'll wait and see about the vacations allegations before making a conclusion. I know that professional conferences are frequently held in resort type locations. If you are giving money to somebody, and they are giving you some of that money back in the form of summer vacations, then you’re financially benefiting from your prosecution. *Cough* Clarence Thomas *cough* ... Anyone who has a problem with this surely has a problem with what Clarence Thomas has done for the last 20 or so fucking years! right?
As for Wade being "unqualified" Big ole MEH! to that. his role seemed to be primarily investigative and the special grand jury he convened wasn’t even authorized to bring charges, so I don’t see prosecutorial experience as being particularly important. And I’m not even sure they knew they had a RICO case BEFORE they did the investigation. Remember, Willis is the prosecutor on the RICO case, not Wade. AND! ... don’t you think if Wade was so supremely unqualified someone would’ve noticed in the past two and a half years? The fact that the two prosecutors knew and trusted each other isn’t inappropriate despite what the gaslighters say, and it looks to me like Wade had experience with high profile investigations and based on that, was an appropriate hire. And there is the “cry wolf” factor — it’s not the first time they’ve tried to smear Willis with sexual allegations, even though I’ve never heard a Republican suggest that, for example, Harlan Crow’s lavish gifts to Clarence Thomas was an indication of a sexual relationship between the two men.
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I don't see where the conflict is here. Their interest in this case would presumably align.
It is bad in other ways and should be investigated for misuse of government resources and maybe a few other things, but I don't see how it would matter in the Trump case.
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This alone makes me think it i more likely NOT true vs true.
" One of Trump’s co-defendants facing criminal charges over efforts to overturn the 2020 election has alleged in court papers that Wade is romantically involved with Willis and used money he billed the district attorney’s office for his work on the case to take her on lavish vacations."
" One of Trump’s co-defendants facing criminal charges over efforts to overturn the 2020 election has alleged in court papers that Wade is romantically involved with Willis and used money he billed the district attorney’s office for his work on the case to take her on lavish vacations."
The "other ways" you refer to are the appearances of a conflict, and are specifically described in the CNN article. You're right that legal experts don't see much here that affects the case, but the essential question is why even chance things at all? Is there a chance Willis recuses herself? If she does, that at the least affects the public perception of the case.
There doesn't have to be any truth to the salacious allegations of an affair. IF Willis steered public money to a second rate law firm in the biggest prosecution of her lifetime, that is obviously a huge problem.
My concern is that there was a flea on the African savanna the bit a hyena's ass causing it to howl creating a butterfly effect that led via a magical chain of events caused an out of breath Trump to exclaim, I need not only eleven thousand votes but a way to tar the prosecution. This whole mess was just caused by a flea and we need to move on and get Trump reelected or the Democrats will be importing African fleas by the billions and you know what kind of aq storm that could generate. It could blow our minds We should all be digging tunnels.
What the f did I do with my acid? I had a few more tabs.
No you didn't, you expected a snide remark or three, that's why you posted some drivel about impropriety within the dark recesses of the government, as though you've ever cared about such things; to draw out those comments so you could argue about that instead of the topic.
"Though the lawmakers’ remarks will likely have no bearing on the case, an appearance of impropriety could make it harder for Willis to secure a future conviction if she can’t convince a jury there is no conflict of interest."
Incompetence.
thehill.com
Incompetence.
Fani Willis claims put top Georgia prosecutor in political jeopardy
Salacious accusations that Fulton County (Ga.) District Attorney Fani Willis (D) hired a romantic partner as a top prosecutor in former President Trump’s criminal case have given new fodder to atta…
thehill.com
Interesting that Willis hasn't denied the claims of a relationship. If there is some evidence that it exists, she should get in front of it rather than respond after the fact. Admitting she hooked up her boyfriend and apologizing would lend her a little bit of ethical cover as opposed to waiting for the details to come out.
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