Will Georgia indict? May find out tonight! Update: Posted Jan 9 finally indicted Aug 14.

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Anthony Michael Kreis, a Georgia State University College of Law and legal analyst, told CNN the filing “probably means relatively little in terms of derailing the prosecution against Trump and his allies except to undermine its legitimacy.”

“It’s an internal conflict of interest and certainly an optics problem, if true. The biggest issue here is it will undermine the legitimacy of the prosecution just as an optical matter,” he said.

Kreis, reiterating that the filing provided no hard evidence to back up the claims, added: “I fail to see how any of this violates Mr. Roman’s constitutional rights.”

Basically, Trump and Associates are trying to undermine the legitimacy of this by slinging mud.
 
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Considering one has no relevance to the other, it won't have any effect on the charges against the defendant. At most it may be an ethics violation, but has nothing to do with the evidence or the grand juries decision that lead to the indictment. The charges won't be dropped because there is no connection between her alleged relationship and the charges against the defendant, true or not.
 

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Considering one has no relevance to the other, it won't have any effect on the charges against the defendant. At most it may be an ethics violation, but has nothing to do with the evidence or the grand juries decision that lead to the indictment. The charges won't be dropped because there is no connection between her alleged relationship and the charges against the defendant, true or not.

And we all know everyone hates ethics violations! This is why they GQP is actively working to make sure no one gets charged with ethics violations. If no one gets charged, then nothing happened.
 
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And we all know everyone hates ethics violations! This is why they GQP is actively working to make sure no one gets charged with ethics violations. If no one gets charged, then nothing happened.
It's all part of a larger attempt to further undermine legitimate government by bothsidings everything and create a cynical population that doesn't care about truth and ethics because "everyone is bad."
 

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Basically, Trump and Associates are trying to undermine the legitimacy of this by slinging mud.
If the DA and the special prosecutor both get canned it's minor win for Trump. If the allegations are accurate she should be fired and the special prosecutor disbarred. If it's just a couple of perps clutching at straws it will get shut down quickly.
 

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If the DA and the special prosecutor both get canned it's minor win for Trump. If the allegations are accurate she should be fired and the special prosecutor disbarred. If it's just a couple of perps clutching at straws it will get shut down quickly.
Well they admit in their filing that they have zero actual evidence, which seems problematic for Trump. That being said, if something comes of it they should both be removed and potentially prosecuted. It would be nice if the Trump people could take a lesson from that.

Regardless, this would be more of a PR win for Trump than a legal one as I haven't seen anything that even tangentially ties it to the actual legal case against him.
 
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If the DA and the special prosecutor both get canned it's minor win for Trump. If the allegations are accurate she should be fired and the special prosecutor disbarred. If it's just a couple of perps clutching at straws it will get shut down quickly.
The King of Bullshit is slinging mud, so we need to investigate every allegation he makes when people try to hold him responsible, as if everything he says is uttered with honesty and sincerity...

Give me a break. This attitude and public rhetoric just enables the stalling, the lies, and the bothsides bs.
 
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The King of Bullshit is slinging mud, so we need to investigate every allegation he makes when people try to hold him responsible, as if everything he says is uttered with honesty and sincerity...

Give me a break. This attitude and public rhetoric just enables the stalling, the lies, and the bothsides bs.
Trump didn't make the accusations, nor did his legal team. I have no doubt they will jump on the bandwagon and ride it off a cliff.
 
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If the DA and the special prosecutor both get canned it's minor win for Trump. If the allegations are accurate she should be fired and the special prosecutor disbarred. If it's just a couple of perps clutching at straws it will get shut down quickly.
Just throwing this out.
What are your thoughts on Supreme Courts Justice Thomas?
 
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Just throwing this out.
What are your thoughts on Supreme Courts Justice Thomas?
If something does come of this it's going to be quite the show to watch conservatives pretend to care about public corruption and then watch the media pretend to believe them.
 
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Just throwing this out.
What are your thoughts on Supreme Courts Justice Thomas?
That's a good question, and I don't have a ready answer. I've never looked into his activities beyond the original story about the gifts he received. In that particular story, he openly admitted to traveling and spending time with a wealthy friend who paid for everything. I don't know much beyond that as I haven't looked. It didn't seem to be clandestine, but I don't know that for a fact. Guess I need to look into it.
I'll also note that I agree with the bulk of his rulings that I'm aware of, please not the "aware" qualifier.

I'll also note that Thomas is generally ruling on the constitutionality of an issue. Those rulings generally aren't a directly personal attack with the goal of proving criminal activity, though they obviously affect every single one of us in some manner. So the final question is, is he dirty? I don't know.
 

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That's a good question, and I don't have a ready answer. I've never looked into his activities beyond the original story about the gifts he received. In that particular story, he openly admitted to traveling and spending time with a wealthy friend who paid for everything. I don't know much beyond that as I haven't looked. It didn't seem to be clandestine, but I don't know that for a fact. Guess I need to look into it.
I'll also note that I agree with the bulk of his rulings that I'm aware of, please not the "aware" qualifier.

I'll also note that Thomas is generally ruling on the constitutionality of an issue. Those rulings generally aren't a directly personal attack with the goal of proving criminal activity, though they obviously affect every single one of us in some manner. So the final question is, is he dirty? I don't know.
you mean you never payed attention to the conversations on this board about his wife participating in the insurrection, or the various news reports about such? I suspect, that if anyone took the time to review the thread about Justice Thomas, and/or the insurrecion thread that I am pretty sure it was mentione in (along with others), they would find posts from you, which would show that you know more than you are wanting to admit.. guess what that says about you?
 
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That's a good question, and I don't have a ready answer. I've never looked into his activities beyond the original story about the gifts he received. In that particular story, he openly admitted to traveling and spending time with a wealthy friend who paid for everything. I don't know much beyond that as I haven't looked. It didn't seem to be clandestine, but I don't know that for a fact. Guess I need to look into it.
I'll also note that I agree with the bulk of his rulings that I'm aware of, please not the "aware" qualifier.

I'll also note that Thomas is generally ruling on the constitutionality of an issue. Those rulings generally aren't a directly personal attack with the goal of proving criminal activity, though they obviously affect every single one of us in some manner. So the final question is, is he dirty? I don't know.
It was clandestine - he did not declare them for years until outed by the press.
 

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If truth is what the courts say it is and in terms of how our laws determine how our lives are to be properly lived, all that those with an agenda antithetical to the sense that our real rights are inalienable and arise out of some innate sense of desire to express outwardly what we were born to feel inwardly, then all that is required for those whose will to express the fullness of humanity within them has been lost and corrupted is to stack the courts, via a will for power, with individuals similarly sick to themselves. By this means have the walking dead focused on stacking our courts. That which is invisible to the sick is the the real nature of health. So sad. Best to look the other way, no?

Save up from the princess who can feel the pea under the 39th mattress.
 

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Did he hide the information? I don't recall how it was discovered.
Well I don't know what you mean by 'hide' but he deliberately chose not to disclose the value of the gifts on his federally mandated disclosure forms. He disclosed them one year in the past and then when he got flak for it stopped, so at least at one point he was aware that this was required. It was discovered by ProPublica and once the scandal erupted he went back and 'amended' all his disclosures to include massive, previously secret gifts from people with business before the court.

If he were any other judge he would have been subject to discipline and/or impeachment for this blatant violation of the judicial ethics code.
 

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You one of the most gullible peeps i know online who can still form a coherent sentence. Willful gullible?
Because I shared a news item you don't like?
I didn't write the story, I didn't find the information, I didn't claim it was accurate, I didn't state I accepted it as fact. Precisely what part of that is gullible?