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Will Blu-Ray eventually go away

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steppinthrax

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I never bought a Blu-Ray player for my TV (after I trashed my DVD player). It seems like a waste considering you get can everything you need from a combo of Hulu, Netflix, Redbox-instant.

I can understand it if you like to get movies on blu-ray as soon as they are released.
 
No. Not until you can stream the same video and audio quality everywhere. Your Netflix might say HD but I promise you it's not as high quality as the Blu-Ray
 
I'm sure they will. I still buy them though; I prefer the better PQ and AQ you get with them (for the most part). Most people don't really care about that, they just want cheap and fast.

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TheUnk said:
No. Not until you can stream the same video and audio quality everywhere. Your Netflix might say HD but I promise you it's not as high quality as the Blu-Ray
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I actually disagree with this. There will definitely be a market for bluray, as it does give better quality, but the majority are okay with what they're getting from streaming. If the industry magically gave netflix the ability to have movies the same day as bluray, bluray sales would absolutely tank.
 
TheUnk said:
No. Not until you can stream the same video and audio quality everywhere. Your Netflix might say HD but I promise you it's not as high quality as the Blu-Ray
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That's correct it's not the best and with all the features you can get from blu-ray. But I never really cared about that too much. I'm more concerned with the content v.s. the quality.
 
Formats come. And formats go. Blu Ray will be no different. I figure at some point flash media will be so cheap and robust that instead of redbox spitting out optical disks they'll just let you plug in a flash drive and write a timebomb enabled DRM movie to it. Go home, plug it into your media player and watch away. No return needed. Next movie you want, take it back, plug it in and in a minute or two a new movie is wrote to it.
 
How about 4K, Does blu-ray support it????

The issue I have with media formats is they have a finite capacity. As resolution increase so does the demand for a high capacity disk. With streaming there is no capacity requirement. The only issues with streaming is the size of you pipe.
 
Keyword: eventually.

Yes, eventually bluray will probably go away. If only because even bluray won't keep up with 4K, 8K, whatever's next. But also bandwidth is, slowly, increasing for the average consumer such that streaming in the 50+ Mbps range won't be such a stretch of the imagination....eventually.

Personally, I'm happy to buy good movies when they're on discount at Amazon or Vudu, and generally just rent otherwise. I only get bluray movies for Christmas anymore because they're easy to put on the wishlist.
 
Blu-ray might at some point but physical media won't for a while, if ever. Streams do a good job of providing adequate to good picture quality, but watching the real thing in is worth it for a lot of content imo.
 
Of course Blu Ray is doomed. Tech doesn't stop advancing and someday people will be sitting around saying things like "Do you remember when everyone thought Blu Ray was high quality? Man, they were freaking barbarians!" Blu Ray discs will wind up the same way that Laser Disc and DVD ended up, in landfills in New Jersey.
 
steppinthrax said:
How about 4K, Does blu-ray support it????

The issue I have with media formats is they have a finite capacity. As resolution increase so does the demand for a high capacity disk. With streaming there is no capacity requirement. The only issues with streaming is the size of you pipe.
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There is nothing to prevent a 4K resolution film being put on Blu-Ray. In such case you'd be getting films on multiple discs necessitating disc swaps like we see on some longer titles now.

If the industry does wind up migrating to 4K content Blu-ray will have to be replaced with something that has more storage available to allow for shipping 4K films on a single disc. I'd assume this is going to be preferable from a user convenience standpoint and from a cost to produce standpoint by only having to print a single disc per film rather than several blu-ray discs. Manufacturers are not going to want to use 4 Blu-Rays for every film along with making packaging to hold 4 discs. A standard 1080p film will take up a quarter of the data that a 4K film would. Most Blu-ray films don't use the full 42GB, but do take up about 25-35GB for the film its self and extras. A full 4K resolution film on blu-ray media would likely be 4 blu-rays for a 1h 30m - 2h film.
 
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Grooveriding said:
There is nothing to prevent a 4K resolution film being put on Blu-Ray. In such case you'd be getting films on multiple discs necessitating disc swaps like we see on some longer titles now.

If the industry does wind up migrating to 4K content Blu-ray will have to be replaced with something that has more storage available to allow for shipping 4K films on a single disc. This is going to be preferable I'd assume from a user convenience standpoint and from a cost to produce standpoint by only having to print a single disc per film rather than several blu-ray discs.
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It's already happening. Nobody is going to want to go down the disc-swapping route for 4K, it's inconvenient for the end user and not cost effective for the manufacturer. Sony and Panasonic have been working on the Blu Ray replacement for over a year now, they're targeting 300GB on a single disc.
 
smitbret said:
Of course not.

Blu-Ray will always be here just like stone tablets and parchment scrolls.
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right

I don't really understand the question. Is BR the end all? no Will something replace it? yes Do I know what that is? no

Eventually all media will be streaming. Whether its from a source server or your own cloud. Physical media is at its end. Unless we start buying movies on micro usb cards, I don't see where it has to go. I do see it going to: buy a movie, save it to your cloud. Buy a CD, save it to your cloud. Buy a video game: access it from their cloud.
 
GagHalfrunt said:
It's already happening. Nobody is going to want to go down the disc-swapping route for 4K, it's inconvenient for the end user and not cost effective for the manufacturer. Sony and Panasonic have been working on the Blu Ray replacement for over a year now, they're targeting 300GB on a single disc.
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Yeah my edit missed your reply. I don't pay much attention to storage media standards, I didn't know they already had BDXL and more in the works. A BDXL @ 128GB would be enough to hold most films @ 4K on its own I would think.
 
Oh course it will go away. Ancient history, like stone tablets, it will be. A few bits of info trapped on a piece of plastic will make zero sense.
 
you can't come even CLOSE to bluray quality right now streaming, and it's not going to happen any time in the real near future, so bluray will be around for a while.
 
The big improvement I'd like to see in Blu-ray is faster load times. I never use blu-rays, when I buy films I extract the film to mkv and put it on our NAS - sometimes re-encoding it to reduce size depending on the film, but man is that initial load slow if you do play off the media.
 
steppinthrax said:
How about 4K, Does blu-ray support it????

The issue I have with media formats is they have a finite capacity. As resolution increase so does the demand for a high capacity disk. With streaming there is no capacity requirement. The only issues with streaming is the size of you pipe.
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They announced it for next year, and they will be increasing the disc size possibly to 100gb, while also improving compression so everything still fits on a single disc.
 
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